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Don't worry, you will certainly "save" yourself and come out looking like the "industry player" that you are.
Luckily for you, 9,500 more posts and your sig will be worth $50/year.
Don't try to scam anyone though, we'll be watching. Most liars like yourself try to scam, others are just creepy loners with no friends. Just don't post any pictures of your Ferrari, please. Been there.Palin/Bigotry '12Comment
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No Ferraris for me, I ride my bikes everywhere I go. If I don't ride my bikes I ride in my truck. If I sell all my vehicles I could get a decent Ferrari but then how much fun would that be having to drive slow over the fucked up LA roads so I do not bottom out?
Here are 80 ounces of gold bars/Eagles/Krugerands, 9.5k in travelers checks, on top of a macbook pro on top of one of my babies. I was going to include my left nut on top of all of this but could not get the shot. LOL!
Here is one of my other babies. My girlfriends ass looks hot on the back of this. She is the kind of girl you could only dream of LOSER. I would post some of her modeling pics but you would laugh and say I was lying so not even going to bother.
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That was my last post in this thread so fuck off douche.Last edited by Joe King; 09-20-2009, 04:23 AM.Comment
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Fact: go into any real recording studio in Los Angeles and you better know your way around a mac or you are not getting the engineering job.Jesus enough with the " If you do graphics or video, or music you have to have a mac" I've heard that shit since I started doing audio recording back in 99. Have to get pro tools, have to use a mac. Bullshit bullshit bullshit.. Jesus fuckin Christ. Friggin brainwashed sheep. As said above give me an equal budget to whatever mac you buy and I can build a pc that is faster and more stable.
Sure you can sit at home and think you are making the greatest concept album of all time with your acoustic guitar a mic and some free multitrack software, on your pc, but professional audio recording studios use macs and pro tools, period. Been in enough LA studios to shoot this crap down. Ive also sat in on prolly a hundred recording sessions in some of the top studios in LA from Rumbo Recorders to where tool records at Larrabee studios (i lived a block from them in the Valley) and where Slayer recorded at Track Record!
You are confusing pro audio with consumer computer use, big difference. Apples and oranges. No pun intended.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 09-20-2009, 04:29 AM.
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Hey well lets see I haven't had a virus in oh 3 years on this computer. Ran Vista since it came out (never reinstalled). Download shit all the time that is questionable. Dont run virus protection. Other than windows defender, and I run a virus scan every few months. 2 weeks.. lolzComment
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Thanks for telling me about recording studios since I am in one every week or so here in one of the biggest cities for music recording in the country and know 5 of the top producers in town, and have been at the biggest studios in town. Ill take your advice under advisement though. If you want to talk about non country music I talk quite a bit to this guy that was sort of involved in Stone Temple pilots, and some Velvet revolver group that signed one of my good friends to his label.. but again Im sure since you lived in L.A. at some point and sat in on some sessions you know all about it. Ill be glad to pass your advice along. Yes a lot of them use macs, but pro tools is for both mac and pc these days. I also do a lot of recording out of my studio here for other songwriters, but now I am worried if they know my computer isn't a mac they will stop wanting me to record their demo cds.... I better run out and buy a mac and get a lifetime pass to starbucks...... People care about the final product. The last 2 starwars movie soundtracks were done on GASP a PC using Steinberg Nuendo. Which is what I used for years. I just recently switched to Propellerhead Reason Record as I was on the beta testing team and I am unlikely to use anything else for a long time. And I use it on a GASP pc. lol
BAH mac sheep bah....
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You arent a professional recording engineer though, you sit at home and think you are, big difference. I am only speaking from my own experience as an intern of some top producers. I interned under marc Bingham at Boiler Room Studios (he did REM albums)Thanks for telling me about recording studios since I am in one every week or so here in one of the biggest cities for music recording in the country and know 5 of the top producers in town, and have been at the biggest studios in town. Ill take your advice under advisement though. If you want to talk about non country music I talk quite a bit to this guy that was sort of involved in Stone Temple pilots, and some Velvet revolver group that signed one of my good friends to his label.. but again Im sure since you lived in L.A. at some point and sat in on some sessions you know all about it. Ill be glad to pass your advice along. Yes a lot of them use macs, but pro tools is for both mac and pc these days. I also do a lot of recording out of my studio here for other songwriters, but now I am worried if they know my computer isn't a mac they will stop wanting me to record their demo cds.... I better run out and buy a mac and get a lifetime pass to starbucks...... People care about the final product. The last 2 starwars movie soundtracks were done on GASP a PC using Steinberg Nuendo. Which is what I used for years. I just recently switched to Propellerhead Reason Record as I was on the beta testing team and I am unlikely to use anything else for a long time. And I use it on a GASP pc. lol
BAH mac sheep bah....
Wasnt trying to compare cock sizes just stating the facts about the studios I have spent a lot of time in and have friends who engineer there.
Blah blah blah, as I said, go to LA and try to get an engineer job at a studio and tell them you do not know mac and have no experience with them and are actually "anti mac" LOL see how much they laugh at you... LOL
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oh and nice try on the "Star Wars soundtrack" line...
Abbey Road Studios (where John Williams did the music, uses macs, you can even see the mac/apple logos in the control room photos on their site LOL
http://www.abbeyroad.com/studios/studio1/control-room/
multiple control room photos show apple logos
just like every other major recording studio in the world.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 09-20-2009, 05:31 AM.
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you guys are all gay arguing about this, shut the fuck upComment
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I wrote out a big post to you, but you know what its not worth it. lol Are you still in L.A. recording? Thats what I thought. Im in Nashville recording every week. In my studio, and at some of the biggest and oldest most famous studios in Nashville. But you have to have a mac I guess I better quit recording and writing.. sigh.. lolz.Comment
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Not sure why you get so upset when I post to you, cant you just discuss something without getting sand in your vagina to the point you type out a big post, edit it out and then retort with this? You mde a post about not needing a mac to do music, and that was simply confusing consumer based recording (what you do) with pro audio (major studios) I already showed you Abbey Road uses macs... do not compare consumer stuff with what a pro uses/does.
The facts are simple, if you plan on working in a major recording studio you had better know mac, this is not a contest between you and I, it was about studios who use macs.
I know you have some ill feelings towards me for pointing out facts, but really, your statements above look childish when in light of the subject matter.
As I said, go to studio and boast about your "anti-mac" feelings, id love to sit in on it.
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So I looked up some big studios in Nashville, like where Elvis recorded LOL
http://www.houseofdavidstudio.com/gear.html
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http://www.oceanwaystudios.com/studios.html
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What you do in your bedroom has NOTHING to do with what pros use in studios ;)
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For most of us, the average PC is 'more' than we need. For my family, it's more than they need.
Even myself, I have a big PC, but it's more because I can have it, rather than a need.
I can build twice the Win PC power for the price of a Mac. From a desktop to laptops, I hand build them for easily half the cost. Allowing me to bump the video, monitors, and other fun stuff.
But.. if I want to edit Video, I'm sorry...I gota go with Mac. It kills a Windows so bad, it's so simple, fast, it does everything and it comes with the Machine.
I love my PC's but Kristins Mac owns the Video creating ability and my PC absolutely dominates her Mac in all around speed
So, get the Puter you need, and not based on hype. If you're going to creating nice video/audio, go with a Mac. It's a 'good skill' to have too. If not, save the money and go with a PC.
Simple, smart, business choice.. that's all that is required.
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Exactly, I use both pc and mac.
Same is said of when doing music recording, you go with a mac, it can handle the multi track audio better than any pc can. And all the pros know it. As it is in every major studio in the world. Nothing sweeter than macs for pro audio.
K, its Sunday morning, done here, enjoy your day everyone, not sure why people cant just discuss something without trying to insult others, but thats usually what people do when they have nothing else to grasp on their way down.Last edited by Fletch XXX; 09-20-2009, 06:20 AM.
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Aye, a PC will make Video / Audio... but a Mac will do it better, faster, with less issues and you don't have to buy extra software, like you did.
Your 6k studio is about 50k less than the "basic low end" professional studios. My partner is up to about 40k in equipment and it doesn't touch the pro studios in NY.
The change on that setup from PC to Mac... was like night and day, professional wise.
If you make Video on a PC, start doing it on a Mac and you will have more free time to burn more videos.Last edited by TheDoc; 09-20-2009, 11:07 AM. ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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Gee your a dickhead, you dont even know how to use it. You can open as many pages as you fucking want.
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I use my Mac. My PC is under the bed.Comment
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I am a very well-endowed mac user.
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MACS and PCS are the same hardware with a different graphical user interfaces. I dont see what all the argument is about when Macs use the same hardware chipsets as PCS nowadays. If you like your buttons to look different then cool get the machine that you prefer. I have been building PCs for video editing since 1999 and the machines I use are rock solid. I don't ever get viruses since I know better so the virus issue doesn't apply to me. I don't care to even try a MAC since my PC is a solid workhorse gives me realtime workflow and extremely fast rendering. I will never switch to MAC and will always build my own sytems so I know is exactly what is in my machine and furthermore that it is compatible with all the multimedia software I am running.HD and 4k Content Production by JayRock
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Aye, a PC will make Video / Audio... but a Mac will do it better, faster, with less issues and you don't have to buy extra software, like you did.
Mac isn't processing the video its the video card, hard drive, processor, & RAM that do this the software is just a controller for them LOL! Whether windows or mac tells it what to do it still does the same thing and creates the same file as you tell it to.
Just because you like the way the OS feels doesn't mean it make the hardware run any faster that it is capable of. If you are trying to run software without using the right hardware on a PC then you are asking for trouble. Mac doesn't use cheap hardware so you can be ignorant about hardware and it will usually work with everything.
I like to configure my hardware setup myself and I know I have the best components for the job for my budget. The OS is nothing but a GUI (graphical user interface) I just prefer PC.
I believe that MACs are less headache for people that don't have time to reasearch how to configure their machine for multimedia. In other words if you are ignorant to hardware configuration & just want to plug and play then you probably want to get a MAC.Last edited by Jay-Rock; 09-20-2009, 02:10 PM.HD and 4k Content Production by JayRock
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If I wanted to spend 3k on a machine I would just build 2 PCs since its the same cost and not only do I have 2 machines that are equal in hardware speed but I can render on both machines allowing me to run circles around the guys that spent the same for one MACHD and 4k Content Production by JayRock
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Umm... the software is very different.. It has nothing to do with a GUI. If it was a GUI change, we would see a lot more crossed over software.
You know like 10,000+ processional and amateur video/audio studios, used a PC, went to Mac and never came back. For many reasons.
Personally, I don't like OSX, so it isn't a 'feels good' thing to me. It's a professional studio in a tiny box with better quality, speed, less problems, less upgrades, less hardware configure, and less overall issues.
I bet you $1000 I can setup a Mac for Video faster than you can a PC. I just need to open the box and plug it in, how about you?
My PC is easily twice the speed as K's Mac. But she can load, process, convert, clean up, give effects, adjust audio, merge clips/movies, etc... at least twice the speed as my PC. Heck, I can't even do half the crap she can without loading up some plugin, or some other software.
I can actually SEE the Color quality difference between the Youtube videos (and designs) done on a Mac vs PC.
And that's the thing, you NEED two PC's... so while you mange two PC's, I'm letting one mac do twice the work while I chill in the pool.Last edited by TheDoc; 09-20-2009, 02:21 PM. ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825
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I DON'T NEED 2 PCS MY MACHINE RENDERS EFFECTS WITH 8 LAYERS OF VIDEO AND GRAPHIC OVERLAYS IN REAL TIME AND MY PROCESSING TIME FOR COMPRESSION IS BLAZING FAST. GET ONE OF THESE OR I WILL LEAVE YOU AND YOUR MAC IN THE DUST.
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Wait... there was that one time... hold on a minute... what?! I said I would do it in a minute, ok... what? ! oh..
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You wont get a good mac for 3k
Hell our pc processing machines are 3k each, and they could do with an upgrade.
pc's work fine but you need a LOT of them and you cant run windows if getting into bulk processing.
And that is for encoding.
I could never imagine rendering on a pc though...8 core macs are just too damn good at that.
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Sweet bikes.. Sell the gold, crazy high lately.No Ferraris for me, I ride my bikes everywhere I go. If I don't ride my bikes I ride in my truck. If I sell all my vehicles I could get a decent Ferrari but then how much fun would that be having to drive slow over the fucked up LA roads so I do not bottom out?
Here are 80 ounces of gold bars/Eagles/Krugerands, 9.5k in travelers checks, on top of a macbook pro on top of one of my babies. I was going to include my left nut on top of all of this but could not get the shot. LOL!
Here is one of my other babies. My girlfriends ass looks hot on the back of this. She is the kind of girl you could only dream of LOSER. I would post some of her modeling pics but you would laugh and say I was lying so not even going to bother.
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Thanks, I have 4 bikes now. My GF rides the Honda.
Now way am I selling my gold now, in fact I just bought those 80 ounces to add to my position. Monday morning I take that to the safe deposit box at the bank where my hoard of precious metals currently resides. So any robbers better act quick and raid my house tonight. Of course I have not shown you guys pics of my gun collection yet Don't want to freak you guys out too much.
Gold is going MUCH MUCH higher. Just wait for the next crisis you will see what I am talking about.
BTW, the dollar is going to really be in the shitter within 12 months. Be like George Soros and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE US DOLLAR NOW.Comment
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Thanks, I have 4 bikes now. My GF rides the Honda.
Now way am I selling my gold now, in fact I just bought those 80 ounces to add to my position. Monday morning I take that to the safe deposit box at the bank where my hoard of precious metals currently resides. So any robbers better act quick and raid my house tonight. Of course I have not shown you guys pics of my gun collection yet Don't want to freak you guys out too much.
Gold is going MUCH MUCH higher. Just wait for the next crisis you will see what I am talking about.
BTW, the dollar is going to really be in the shitter within 12 months. Be like George Soros and GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE US DOLLAR NOW.
Stop trying to save face in this thread, you don't know shit about computers
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when I returned my new mack book pro 2 weeks after buying it. You have 2 weeks to return the product. They tried to charge me a restocking fee but after making a huge scene in front of a crowd of other customers they decided to just give me a full refund.
Seriously, Mac is the biggest fucking rip off ever. It does have some advantages like less likely to get viruses. But you are paying double for a basically a computer that looks more stylish and is easier to use.
The reason I bought one was so I would know more about AAPL products. Now I know why I shorted AAPL stock on Friday.
complaints:
1. Cannot open up multiple windows of same thing. I have several gmail accounts and like to have them all open sometimes. On a shitty Mac I have to close out of one gmail account before I open another.
2. So much cool software does not have a version for the mac
3. ICQ work like shit when I downloaded it.
4. Double the fucking cost of a comparable windows machine
5. The track pad is fucking dumb as shit. I know the proper finger sweeps in order to increase text but the hunk of shit I was sold increased the text size on the screen over and over even when I was just moving the cursor around. I was not in any way making the finger/thumb motion that is saved for changing text size . This was SO FUCKING ANOYING as every 15 minutes the god damed text would all of a sudden get really big for no freaking reason.
6. Ever notice the "Mac geniuses" that work at the store have absolutely no Mac product knowledge?
7. Some software I needed cost double than comparable software for a PC (different company made the software but had similar features)
8. Did I mention they cost fucking double????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
9. The Mac mighty mouse is fucking garbage.
10. I hate the cult-like attitude that Mac people have. You can tell a person who uses a Dell that you don't like the company and they will not really give a shit. People who use PCs have better things to do with their time than worship their overpriced dumbed down trendy computer.
11. Often when I try to click out of a screen I have to click like 5 times to get the thing to close. I have the point of the cursor directly over the red circle when I do this. WTF?????????Yea he did. If you are living one breath from poverty, perhaps the Mac would not be a good investment for you. If you are not smart enough to do even the most basic research before switching operating systems, perhaps switching to Mac would not be a good idea at this time. If you can't figure out how to work a computer that any 12 year old little girl can figure out, well..... good luck.
People here have said that Mac's are for retards....and even Joe King can't figure out how to use one
Joe, so you returned your Macbook, what did you replace it with? Just curious....For those who are thinking of switching to the Mac, take some time and do some research first. Find out what software you'll need in order to keep your business running smoothly during the transition and price it out. Remember, Google is your friend with any issues that you may have.
Also, pick up a book (and read it) to familiarize yourself with the Mac OS system. This is a good one:
The Mac is a great system but don't expect it to run like your PC. There is a learning curve involved and depending on how much time you put in to it, it could take from a few days to a few weeks to feel comfy....even longer for some folks.
There are a lot of Mac users here at GFY and they'd love to help you make the switch/adjustment. All you have to do is ask if you have an issue.i like to multioquote
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the idea that sticky even considers a 6k setup anything remotely impressive speaks volumes. The studio I interned at had instruments that were valued at 250k LOL (Synclavier) the mixing board was like 500k LOL Anyone comparing some home studio set up to a major studio is totally CLUELESS.
There is about 1 million dollars worth of difference between sticky hitting record in his home studio (nothing wrong with home studios we all have them) and what a major recording studio offers... but 6k is nothing. $1 mil is less than the cost of a studio with any decent gear. I personally know guys running studios with at least double that in Los Angeles.
A used guitar can cost you more than 6k LOL not too impressive considering you look at the cost of some of the Digidesign setups that run like 45k
Agaon fact is, you walk in a major recording studio and say you are anti-mac and you will be laughed out the door. Thats what this was about...Last edited by Fletch XXX; 09-21-2009, 04:41 AM.
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Mac is nice when you learn how to use it.I'm just a newbie.Comment
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