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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313
    #1

    Here's a little Business Tip... Instead of saying Adapt Or Die you should be saying..

    A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

    The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!
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    • Yngwie
      I am an Alien from space
      • May 2003
      • 11118
      #2
      ya, adapting is simply doing what everyone else is doing and that will not increase your bottom line. Shap is correct.. INNOVATE OR DIE! Problem is, to many people will just follow that few that innovate and not really accomplish anything.
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        • Nicky
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2003
          • 30071
          #3
          Originally posted by Yngwie
          ya, adapting is simply doing what everyone else is doing and that will not increase your bottom line. Shap is correct.. INNOVATE OR DIE! Problem is, to many people will just follow that few that innovate and not really accomplish anything.
          Many will follow, some will have remote success, many will fail. That's why as you guy's say. Be the innovator! Or atleast be close to him/her

          gfynicky @ gmail.com

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            • Shap
              Confirmed User
              • May 2001
              • 8313
              #4
              I can't take credit for coming up with it. I read it in this month's Success magazine. Here is part of the article.

              I could not have said the following better. Reading it gets me fired up
              ---------
              I define innovation as the never-ending pursuit of something better. This is the defining spirit of the entrepreneur?the desire to improve, refine and streamline the old ways of doing things to improve the quality of our work and our lives.

              In business, as well as life, it is innovate or die. If you aren?t improving, you are falling behind. You cannot stand still. In today?s fast-paced, ever-evolving global marketplace, if you aren?t innovating and moving forward, you are effectively moving backward and the world is speeding by you.

              Innovation isn?t some big-bang happening. It is something you do every day by constantly challenging your status quo: your ideas, systems, processes, policies, behaviors and assumptions. What has become an adage is now true more than ever: ?If it ain?t broke, break it.? To avoid extinction, change is not only inevitable, it is a necessity.
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              You can read the rest here
              http://darrenhardy.success.com/2009/...ge-creativity/

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                • Sausage
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 3012
                  #5
                  Adult stopped innovating 4+ years ago.

                  Every new site or promotion model has been taken from mainstream.
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                    • Ice
                      Confirmed User
                      • Nov 2002
                      • 26053
                      #6
                      I agree... why adapt... you just admit that you have lost and can't do anything about it.

                      Before tube sites people bitched about tgp's. There is always going to be something new that will come out.

                      I could write a novel about why the industry is the way it is today but at the end it's not going to change anything.

                      Evolve and innovate to get back what is lost from the free porn.

                      icq 1904905

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                        • Jman
                          Already an AI veteran
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 22832
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Shap
                          A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

                          The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!
                          I have the honor of working with people who think like you.

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                            • mynameisjim
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 2985
                              #8
                              Most successful businesses just did things a little bit better than the last guy. So hopefully that gives people some hope, you don't always have to reinvent the wheel, just make the wheel a little better.

                              Google didn't invent search engines or PPC advertising, they just made it a little better.

                              Apple didn't invent the MP3 player or the smartphone, they just made it a little bit better.

                              Facebook didn't invent social networking, they just made it a little better.

                              The list goes on and on.
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                                • SleazyDream
                                  I'm here for SPORT
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 41470
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                  A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

                                  The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!

                                  i'm soo fucking sick of people saying porn is bad and then keep working in or comming back to it


                                  shap has said probally the smartest thing I've heard all day

                                  sheep follow and copy
                                  leaders create and innovate
                                  Last edited by SleazyDream; 09-03-2009, 08:41 PM.
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                                  Now read without the word dog.

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                                    • stickyfingerz
                                      Doin fine
                                      • Oct 2005
                                      • 24984
                                      #10
                                      Innovate and protect your fuckin content people.

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                                        • Jakke PNG
                                          ex-TeenGodFather
                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 20306
                                          #11
                                          Why innovate when you can imitate? :P
                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                            • SleazyDream
                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                              • Jul 2001
                                              • 41470
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Jakke PNG
                                              Why innovate when you can imitate? :P

                                              baaaaaaa - hey is that a cliff???? mmmm sexy
                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                • Robbie
                                                  Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 20960
                                                  #13
                                                  One old saying is definitely applying to my situation:
                                                  Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

                                                  This fucking piracy shit has damn near destroyed paysite sales. But it has also caused me to bust my ass and optimize everything I have to it's utmost money making potential.

                                                  One thing is for sure...when the solution to piracy finally comes down from the courts and an end is put to it...My shit is going to absolutely blow up.

                                                  Grampland.Com is the absolute best free site I've ever been involved with. And I'm lucky to get much traffic to it at all. Why would anyone bother coming to me when they can get entire members areas for free? But once that stops? I have my shit down solid. I'm still making good money off of next to nothing traffic numbers.

                                                  Let me get back up to a million uniques a day and I'd be the damn Scrooge McDuck of porn. lol
                                                  -Robbie
                                                  ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                    • SleazyDream
                                                      I'm here for SPORT
                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 41470
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Robbie
                                                      One old saying is definitely applying to my situation:
                                                      Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

                                                      This fucking piracy shit has damn near destroyed paysite sales. But it has also caused me to bust my ass and optimize everything I have to it's utmost money making potential.

                                                      One thing is for sure...when the solution to piracy finally comes down from the courts and an end is put to it...My shit is going to absolutely blow up.

                                                      Grampland.Com is the absolute best free site I've ever been involved with. And I'm lucky to get much traffic to it at all. Why would anyone bother coming to me when they can get entire members areas for free? But once that stops? I have my shit down solid. I'm still making good money off of next to nothing traffic numbers.

                                                      Let me get back up to a million uniques a day and I'd be the damn Scrooge McDuck of porn. lol
                                                      you've always had good shit
                                                      This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                      Now read without the word dog.

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                                                        • Shap
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • May 2001
                                                          • 8313
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Jakke PNG
                                                          Why innovate when you can imitate? :P
                                                          Innovate is taking ideas and improving on them. It doesn't necessarily mean re-inventing the wheel.

                                                          If you aren't innovating you are probably doing nothing or copying.

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                                                            • B2BwithJoeD
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                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                              • 1390
                                                              #16
                                                              Europeans Billing Europe!

                                                              "If it ain't broke, break it!"

                                                              Thanks for the motivational thread, Shap

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                                                                • gideongallery
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                  • 7082
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Shap
                                                                  A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

                                                                  The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!
                                                                  the problem is that there are no innovative webmasters here, most copy other people stuff and call it innovation.

                                                                  adapt or die is only valid statement for these webmasters.

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                                                                    • Fletch XXX
                                                                      GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!!
                                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                                      • 60840
                                                                      #18
                                                                      innovation? where? Havent seen much at all in the past years... lol

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                                                                        • Qbert
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                                                                          • Jun 2004
                                                                          • 813
                                                                          #19
                                                                          "adapt or die"... "innovate or die"... both are just rhetoric and boil down to essentially the same thing. Don't just keep doing the same old thing if it's no longer working.

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                                                                            • Shap
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                              • 8313
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Qbert
                                                                              "adapt or die"... "innovate or die"... both are just rhetoric and boil down to essentially the same thing. Don't just keep doing the same old thing if it's no longer working.
                                                                              Actually you should never keep doing the same old thing. Because before you know it it will be old and then it will be too late to change.

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                                                                                • NaughtyRob
                                                                                  Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                                                  • Nov 2004
                                                                                  • 29602
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Yeah I agree, its more like innovate and diversify or die.
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                                                                                    • wargames
                                                                                      Kliris
                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                      • 10423
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Great threads lately Shap

                                                                                      I got a new one for you

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                                                                                        • Riffhard
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                                                                                          • Jul 2009
                                                                                          • 659
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          I'm gonna start a free dating site. Then I'm gonna advertise paysites on it. awesome, right?
                                                                                          Glad to be here. Glad to be anywhere.

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                                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 34515
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Adapt or die = followers
                                                                                              Innovate or die = leaders

                                                                                              Where do you want to be
                                                                                              WG
                                                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                                                • Agent 488
                                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                                  • 22511
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  adapt or die.

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                                                                                                    • xxweekxx
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                                      • 6780
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      innovation makes sense.. no need copying everyone else...

                                                                                                      We've seen hidden cross sales, cross sales below join form, etc..

                                                                                                      Im almost done with my new paysite, will payout $100 per join..

                                                                                                      We will have disappearing cross sale.. yes..

                                                                                                      Basically, it will appear for 1 second then vanish.. magic..

                                                                                                      Also thinking of cross sale in a different language.. so if the user is american, the cross sale will be in chinese or romanian..

                                                                                                      We could also have pre checked cross sales that bill you when you UNCHECK..

                                                                                                      These are all innovations and ill make a lotta $$. . yea?

                                                                                                      Also been thinking of cross sales that rebill after 60 seconds. sounds good to
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                                                                                                        • xxweekxx
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                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                          • 6780
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Heres one of our cross sales?Innovation =)

                                                                                                          X By Unchecking/Checking this box, you agree to signup for a free 60 second trial to XXXwild, which recurs at $39.97/month.

                                                                                                          Best of all its a disappearing cross sale.. comes and goes.. =0
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                                                                                                            • Shap
                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                              • May 2001
                                                                                                              • 8313
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                              Adapt or die = followers
                                                                                                              Innovate or die = leaders

                                                                                                              Where do you want to be
                                                                                                              WG
                                                                                                              Exactly!

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                                                                                                                • Voodoo
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                                                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                  • 10600
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  If you're not part of the solution... You are part of the problem.

                                                                                                                  "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                                                                                    • Voodoo
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                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                      • 10600
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                      Adapt or die = followers
                                                                                                                      Innovate or die = leaders

                                                                                                                      Where do you want to be
                                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                                      You sound like a Visa Commercial.

                                                                                                                      "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                                                                                        • marketsmart
                                                                                                                          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                                                                          • 20419
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i would rather let other people innovate and then just steal their shit....

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                                                                                                                            • xxweekxx
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                                                                                              • 6780
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                                                              i would rather let other people innovate and then just steal their shit....
                                                                                                                              smart man
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                                                                                                                                • Twig
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                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 1949
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Flood the market with copies or die!!

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                                                                                                                                    • BlackCrayon
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 19634
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Very smart statement. However until content theft gets regulated I think its best, for myself anyhow, to find a business were people can't get what you are selling for free at the click of a mouse.
                                                                                                                                      you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                                                                                                                        • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 22511
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          sausage had the best point thus far: innovation in adult now means who can execute mainstream ideas in adult first.

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                                                                                                                                            • NaughtyRob
                                                                                                                                              Two fresh affiliate progs
                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 29602
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              First to market is very important yes but you gotta also do it right.
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                                                                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 47880
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xxweekxx
                                                                                                                                                  We could also have pre checked cross sales that bill you when you UNCHECK..
                                                                                                                                                  Hey, that's actually innovative... "You will buy a 2nd subscription to xyz site at $49.99/month unless you keep this checkbox checked"
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                                                                                                                                                    • BaldBastard
                                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 16849
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

                                                                                                                                                      For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

                                                                                                                                                      Fortunes just waiting to be made!

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                                                                                                                                                        • SeanLEE
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                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                          • 1556
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                                                                                                          maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

                                                                                                                                                          For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

                                                                                                                                                          Fortunes just waiting to be made!
                                                                                                                                                          I spammed in threads!

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                                                                                                                                                            • the Shemp
                                                                                                                                                              congrats to the winners
                                                                                                                                                              • Nov 2001
                                                                                                                                                              • 10891
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Shap
                                                                                                                                                              Actually you should never keep doing the same old thing. Because before you know it it will be old and then it will be too late to change.
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                                                                                                                                                                • Semi-Retired-Dave
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                                                                                                  • 11190
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                                                                                                                  maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

                                                                                                                                                                  For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

                                                                                                                                                                  Fortunes just waiting to be made!
                                                                                                                                                                  That was very well said.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • fuzebox
                                                                                                                                                                      making it rain
                                                                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 22359
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                                                      Hey, that's actually innovative... "You will buy a 2nd subscription to xyz site at $49.99/month unless you keep this checkbox checked"
                                                                                                                                                                      I have seen this done with opt in email checkboxes.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                          • 14293
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          How about CHEAT, STEAL, LIE OR DIE!? Seems to be working for many in this industry.
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                                                                                                                                                                            • Agent 488
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                                              • 22511
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              mainstream is worse. at least you get some kind of product in adult. mainstream is a cesspool of ponzi schemes and outright fraud atm.

                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by DamageX
                                                                                                                                                                              How about CHEAT, STEAL, LIE OR DIE!? Seems to be working for many in this industry.

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