SEO - different IP less importnat now? - GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

X

Kard63

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2003

Posts: 8944
Share

Post
#1

SEO - different IP less importnat now?

09-03-2009, 07:45 AM

It looks like interlinking sites on the same C-class and even the exact same IP is more helpful now in the Google SERPs. Does anyone else think this might have changed a smidge?

Also, do you no follow your links to FHGs? Would it be better if FHG's were noindex?
Tags: None
grumpy

Too lazy to set a custom title

Join Date: Jan 2002

Posts: 9870
Share

Post
#2

09-03-2009, 09:03 AM

i would like to know to

Don't let greediness blur your vision | You gotta let some shit slide
icq - 441-456-888
Comment
Agent 488

Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 22511
Share

Post
#3

09-03-2009, 09:08 AM

what is the source of this observation.

Originally posted by Kard63

It looks like interlinking sites on the same C-class and even the exact same IP is more helpful now in the Google SERPs. Does anyone else think this might have changed a smidge?

Also, do you no follow your links to FHGs? Would it be better if FHG's were noindex?
Comment
Jayvis

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2005

Posts: 5430
Share

Post
#4

09-03-2009, 09:11 AM

From the wiki for nofollow:

# Google states that their engine takes "nofollow" literally and does not "follow" the link at all. However, experiments conducted by SEOs show conflicting results. These studies reveal that Google does follow the link, but does not index the linked-to page, unless it was in Google's index already for other reasons (such as other, non-nofollow links that point to the page).[7][8]
# Yahoo! "follows it", but excludes it from their ranking calculation.
# Bing respects "nofollow" as regards not counting the link in their ranking, but it is not proven whether or not Bing follows the link.
# Ask.com ignores the attribute altogether.
Comment
xxxjay

Tube groupie.

Join Date: Aug 2002

Posts: 13482
Share

Post
#5

09-03-2009, 10:10 AM

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/
Comment
96ukssob

So Fucking Banananananas

Join Date: Mar 2003

Posts: 12991
Share

Post
#6

09-03-2009, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by xxxjay

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

Email: Clicky on Me
Comment
~Ray

visit hardlinks.org

Join Date: Jun 2003

Posts: 18361
Share

Post
#7

09-03-2009, 10:23 AM

lots of ip's and class c's matter if you are talking about backlinks. (see sig)

but, spreading your own sites over lots of ip's and then interlinking them to fool google, doesn't seem to work as well anymore.

Last edited by ~Ray; 09-03-2009, 10:25 AM.

Adult Backlinks for Adult Websites - Testimonials Available
Comment
fusionx

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2003

Posts: 4618
Share

Post
#8

09-03-2009, 10:32 AM

I've never seen any kind of penalty for linking between sites on the same class c, or same IP for that matter.

According to google, it's the content that counts, among all the other criteria for ranking. If it has it's own domain, or even subdomain, and the link is relevant, it should not matter whether it's the same IP.

Think about blog hosts and shared hosting. They all come from the same IP(s), and each site can still rank seperately with it's own PR.
Comment
vod

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jan 2006

Posts: 3510
Share

Post
#9

09-03-2009, 11:26 AM

I would say that if you create a website and you make it's own identity; then create links in on different c-class ip's from different hosts helps..

10% relevance
90% backlinks

works best...

Google, Yahoo and MSN used to Run SEO contests, see here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEO_contest

winning SEO contest strategy through the use of backlinking, a technique in which the required words on other people's sites were hyperlinked back to his site.

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

Adult Merchant Account
Comment
tiger

Confirmed User

Join Date: Apr 2002

Posts: 6986
Share

Post
#10

09-03-2009, 01:08 PM

I have never seen any evidence that IPs matter even the slightest bit.
Comment
seeric

..........

Join Date: Aug 2004

Posts: 41917
Share

Post
#11

09-03-2009, 01:48 PM

i agree with jay. there are some linkwheeling techniques that will actually give you an NP-Complete that NO search algorithm can figure out. they have ways of identifying the things that they frown on. Bottom line is..... don't abuse anything. I play in practices that are frowned upon as seasonings to organic practices. Don't over do it and you'll be ok, IMHO.
Comment
Jdoughs

Confirmed User

Join Date: Mar 2004

Posts: 5794
Share

Post
#12

09-03-2009, 02:03 PM

Only 2 types of people care about multiple C Class IP's.

Guys selling links and who paid for multiple IP's because they thought it was needed.

Guys selling hosting with multiple IP's.

Last edited by Jdoughs; 09-03-2009, 02:04 PM.

LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month.
AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!
Comment
d-null

. . .

Join Date: Apr 2007

Posts: 13724
Share

Post
#13

09-03-2009, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

if you are doing it right, why would you have them all registered to you?

__________________

Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad!
Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs
Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite
Comment
Jdoughs

Confirmed User

Join Date: Mar 2004

Posts: 5794
Share

Post
#14

09-03-2009, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by vod

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

Lets keep the statements of facts down to what we or you actually know, not what you heard, or may have read, or remember from 5 years ago.

I could speculate or guess all day long, that don't earn money.

LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month.
AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!
Comment
Kard63

Confirmed User

Join Date: Nov 2003

Posts: 8944
Share

Post
#15

09-03-2009, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by budsbabes

what is the source of this observation.

I did it some anyway even though I was told it wouldnt be as helpful. It helped a little bit like I was told.

It seems to help more now.

Originally posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you

I pay to hide my name at the registrar
I dont use the same google analytics account to monitor multiple sites
I don't stay logged into google
I don't use google toolbar

Originally posted by Jdoughs

Only 2 types of people care about multiple C Class IP's.

Guys selling links and who paid for multiple IP's because they thought it was needed.

Guys selling hosting with multiple IP's.

Man... it really seemed to matter when I tested the theory 2 years ago.... But now... I'm about to interlink everything. Wish me luck.
Comment
Agent 488

Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 22511
Share

Post
#16

09-03-2009, 02:18 PM

google has been a registrar for some time now.

Originally posted by bossku69

exactly. i am willing to be they are looking at domain registars as well. even if you have 20 domains on 20 different class C IPs, if they are all registered to you, its basically teh same as having them all on the same box.

just remember... no matter how smart you think you are, Google will always be one step ahead of you
Comment
Agent 488

Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2006

Posts: 22511
Share

Post
#17

09-03-2009, 02:20 PM

to clarify: google has been a registrar for some time now and most likely has access to all the info even if you use domain privacy.
Comment
qxm

Confirmed User

Join Date: Jul 2006

Posts: 5970
Share

Post
#18

09-03-2009, 02:29 PM

I have a fake ID for each state of the US, Fake passport, Fake SSN, Fake CCs ... google can't catch my cr@zy SEO scheme ..... BIG LuLz!!!

ICQ: 266990876
Comment
Jdoughs

Confirmed User

Join Date: Mar 2004

Posts: 5794
Share

Post
#19

09-03-2009, 02:29 PM

Just to clarify also, I'm not saying its good to interlink all your sites It don't matter with the IP's but thats assuming normal site building and link developing, I wouldnt link together a bunch of sites on the same range. But I wouldn't interlink a bunch of sites period. There is just better ways.

LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250
Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month.
AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!
Comment
d-null

. . .

Join Date: Apr 2007

Posts: 13724
Share

Post
#20

09-03-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by xxxjay

I don't even think multiple class C matter anymore. Google knows who you are no matter how many network you try to hide behind.

oh yeah??

__________________

Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad!
Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs
Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite
Comment
Pleasurepays

BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES

Join Date: Aug 2002

Posts: 11913
Share

Post
#21

09-03-2009, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by vod

I would say that if you create a website and you make it's own identity; then create links in on different c-class ip's from different hosts helps..

10% relevance
90% backlinks

works best...

Google, Yahoo and MSN used to Run SEO contests, see here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEO_contest

winning SEO contest strategy through the use of backlinking, a technique in which the required words on other people's sites were hyperlinked back to his site.

if the backlinks are on different hosts and c-class ip's it is said to help .... but backlinking is the way to go...

You + Reading Comprehension = FAIL
Comment

Previous template Next

Working...