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Probilling loses merchant account? are they finished? what do you think!

11-07-2002, 02:21 PM

Here is an email i got from them:

"Dear Valued Client,

Due to an unforeseeable issue with our processing account proBilling will be unable to process Visa or Mastercard deposits on behalf of our clients for approximately 24 hours. 900 billing and EFT transactions will be unaffected.

Transactions and rebills will temporarily be unavailable while our IT team activates our backup credit card merchant account.

We will be working around the clock and expect this issue will be rectified in about 24 hours. On behalf of proBilling I would like to apologize for this inconvenience and would like to assure our account holders that this is an isolated incident.

Stan S.
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1-866-233-2242
+001-403-233-2228
www.proBilling.com
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Looks like they lost their merchant account to me but i could be wrong and dont know for sure, anyone want to shed some light on this?
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11-07-2002, 02:29 PM

wow

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11-07-2002, 02:30 PM

wow, and they had an ad up here just last week if Im not mistaken...

However, I've never heard of these people so I don't put too much weight into it...NOw if this was Globill, i'd be shocked....

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11-07-2002, 02:30 PM

Unreal, I cant beleive it.
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11-07-2002, 02:30 PM

It was my understanding that this wasn't all that uncommon.

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11-07-2002, 02:31 PM

Makes me a little glad i didnt actually get up and running with them as of yet. Maybe i will stick with CCBill and not take VISA cards. Hopefully they will stay afloat and make some be able to process for a while on the backup merchant account.

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11-07-2002, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
It was my understanding that this wasn't all that uncommon.

That is probably why VISA is cracking down on this shit!
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11-07-2002, 02:32 PM

dibill just went down as well.

again.
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11-07-2002, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by [Labret]
dibill just went down as well.

again.

With them processing Beast/CP porn i am not shocked at that ;)
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11-07-2002, 02:34 PM

dibill just went down as well.

not too surprised to hear about that to be honest, but probilling? now that is a bit disconcerting... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that i *did* stick w/ one of the "big three" for now (ccBill)..

...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..
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11-07-2002, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by notjoe

With them processing Beast/CP porn i am not shocked at that ;)

It wasnt that so much that as they were using a bunk offshore merchant account.

Beast and KP processing is safe with many other processors.

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11-07-2002, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by [Labret]

It was that so much that as they were using a bunk offshore merchant account.

Beast and KP processing is safe with many other processors.

hah, maybe i should try for one of those
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11-07-2002, 02:56 PM

I think ProBilling will have to come here and explain what's going on or they are going to lose a lot of business...I still see their ad button at the bottom of GFY
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11-07-2002, 03:03 PM

who is probilling? I've never heard of them...
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11-07-2002, 03:13 PM

yup now maybe some of you know why I always strees go with someone who has been around and paid on time everytime and pay the few extra %

I only know of one billing company that has been around long that never ever sent late payments and bullshit stories and that is CCBill

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11-07-2002, 03:26 PM

well i guess sticking with the top three is better off
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11-07-2002, 04:21 PM

Yeah, great way to make some new business...
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11-07-2002, 05:46 PM

yep, their banner (PRO BILLING) is still at the bottom of the GFY page.

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11-07-2002, 06:01 PM

That is probably why VISA is cracking down on this

Visa doesn't dole out merchant accounts. You set them up with your bank/s.

No wonder there was such a flurry when Visa tugged the strings. Half the people don't have a basic understanding of how all of this works.

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11-07-2002, 06:05 PM

While you do set up a merchant account thru a bank, the bank still has to follow Visa rules for their region, otherwise they lose the right to issue accounts and/or cards.

With the Tier 1 capital requirement going to 100 million dollars, many of the small banks that have processed high risk in the past will no longer be eligible to do so.

Visa can, and does, tell banks to stop processing for certain sites, and when they do that, there is no crossing them.
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11-07-2002, 06:24 PM

Mmmmmmmmmmmm....Globill =)
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11-07-2002, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by Gemini
That is probably why VISA is cracking down on this

Visa doesn't dole out merchant accounts. You set them up with your bank/s.

No wonder there was such a flurry when Visa tugged the strings. Half the people don't have a basic understanding of how all of this works.

Visa sets the policies which the banks have to follow, duh.
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11-07-2002, 06:32 PM

probilling's explanation:
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11-07-2002, 06:42 PM

Hah in other words "Russian hackers were able to redirect POS pages to pay to their accounts".

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11-07-2002, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by J B
probilling's explanation:
http://www.probilling.com/cgi-bin/ul...c;f=2;t=000021

They don't say much
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11-07-2002, 07:32 PM

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probilling's explanation:
http://www.probilling.com/cgi-bin/ul...c;f=2;t=000021

do they really think webmasters are total idiots. I like how everytime a business bouces a check its always becase:

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11-07-2002, 07:55 PM

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11-07-2002, 08:03 PM

Bugger, my account is with probilling and I have been saying really positive things about them and now.....I am on the hunt for a new billing solution.

I need to get some advice on a good affiliate tracking and userid/password management software. I might as well get off my butt and get this set up so that I can start offering multi-billing solutions to my surfers.

Any suggestions?

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11-08-2002, 12:49 AM

Luke,

We can surely help save you $$$ in processing fees and put you in control.

Give us a call tomorrow to see our excellent system.

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11-08-2002, 12:56 AM

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Luke,

We can surely help save you $$$ in processing fees and put you in control.

Give us a call tomorrow to see our excellent system.

Thank You, Mitch Farber

HAHA! right there when the bottom falls out!

Who the hell is probilling anyhow?

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11-08-2002, 03:16 AM

Wow...when I was forced to leave CCbill because of the processing region restrictions, It came down to a choice between AC Pay and Probilling....I chose AC Pay.
Thank fuck.

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11-08-2002, 04:04 AM

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Luke,

We can surely help save you $$$ in processing fees and put you in control.

Give us a call tomorrow to see our excellent system.

Thank You, Mitch Farber

You always seem to hang around in these kind of threads...as
soon as there is a rumour or some gossip you seem to step in
to try to get a few crumbs that fell of the table....I don´t know
you or your company.....but I have to say it´s an annoying
marketing strategy.....and I doubt if it´s a good one...

Just my opinion....

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11-08-2002, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by DynaSpain

You always seem to hang around in these kind of threads...as
soon as there is a rumour or some gossip you seem to step in
to try to get a few crumbs that fell of the table....I don´t know
you or your company.....but I have to say it´s an annoying
marketing strategy.....and I doubt if it´s a good one...

Just my opinion....

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My 2 cents is that Mitch has been hanging around to help people out since hes been telling yall that this was coming for a year.

I use Netbilling and have found them to be professional and helpful on several projects.

If you dont know then you might not wanna say anything.
Opening your mouth removes all doubt.

Just my 2 cents worth as well...

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11-08-2002, 07:00 AM

Hey Dynamite.. cut Mitch a little slack. I've actually had a chance to spend some time with him (at YP2002.5 and AWE-LA) and he's a nice guy. In fact, I think we're opening up a NetBilling account because he's got a pretty good solution. I think the reason he's aggressive like that is that few people really know what kind of services he provides. It might be better for him to take it offline but people, if you're processing $10,000+/month, it's definitely worth it to take a look at what they offer.

Third party processors no longer provide the "protection" and services they used to. I think the trend is to take control (and responsibility) for your own operations.
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11-08-2002, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by GonZo

Opinions are like assholes everybodys got one.
My 2 cents is that Mitch has been hanging around to help people out since hes been telling yall that this was coming for a year.

I use Netbilling and have found them to be professional and helpful on several projects.

If you dont know then you might not wanna say anything.
Opening your mouth removes all doubt.

Just my 2 cents worth as well...

BTW FYDITHM

Pull your tongue out of his arse.......on his payroll?

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11-08-2002, 07:18 AM

Originally posted by Big E
Hey Dynamite.. cut Mitch a little slack. I've actually had a chance to spend some time with him (at YP2002.5 and AWE-LA) and he's a nice guy. In fact, I think we're opening up a NetBilling account because he's got a pretty good solution. I think the reason he's aggressive like that is that few people really know what kind of services he provides. It might be better for him to take it offline but people, if you're processing $10,000+/month, it's definitely worth it to take a look at what they offer.

Third party processors no longer provide the "protection" and services they used to. I think the trend is to take control (and responsibility) for your own operations.

Yo Big guy....I´m not trying to be asshole....as I said...I don´t
know Mitch....I only noticed he´s always posting in these threads
and that to "Me" that looks like cheap marketing.....

I´ll take your word for it that he´s offering good services...I was
just venting my opinion on his marketing techniques

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11-08-2002, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by DynaSpain
that looks like cheap marketing.....

I would rather do cheap marketing than expensive marketing!
He provides a relevant alternative to the 3rd parties, so why not?

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11-08-2002, 01:22 PM

Hi,

Big E, Gonzo, & XXX_Jman- Thanks for the praise. I could not agree more :-)
Some call it spam, some call it self promotion. Many do not know about the great alternative solutions that we provide. We work hard to get clients and make them very, very happy.

Have a great weekend everyone....

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11-08-2002, 01:50 PM

Agreed. The fact that you can't contact anyone directly from the board here (you've got to rely on signatures and/or public messages) means you've got to cut some people some slack.
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11-08-2002, 02:12 PM

Hey Mitch,

Good to see you are still around. Keep doing what youre doing. If these people wanna continue paying 10-15% to 3rd party billing companies in exchange for weekly checks and no protection then they need a brick thrown at their head. Wake up people......3rd party billing is no longer absorbing chargebacks. YOU ARE NOW HELD RESPONSIBLE! I dare anyone to give Netbilling a chance to demo their system to ya. In my observations they have always been willing to put their script where their mouth is. Money too cuz its obviously not a cheap script. No i am not on Netbilling's payroll, i just have common sense. Mitch runs an honest shop. Just give em a try. not much convincing necessary.

Late!

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11-08-2002, 03:17 PM

Mitch, thanks for your offer, but to use your services I would still need to set up my own merchant account and affiliate program.

Right now I kinda need two things:
1) an immediate solution to probilling still being down (I just finished signing up with PSW Billing)
2) a long term solution where I use my own affiliate software and merchant account. I think netbilling comes in here but I still need affiliate software.

Can anyone suggest good affiliate software?

Cheers,

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11-08-2002, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by chilihost
Mitch, thanks for your offer, but to use your services I would still need to set up my own merchant account and affiliate program.

Right now I kinda need two things:
1) an immediate solution to probilling still being down (I just finished signing up with PSW Billing)
2) a long term solution where I use my own affiliate software and merchant account. I think netbilling comes in here but I still need affiliate software.

Can anyone suggest good affiliate software?

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11-08-2002, 03:24 PM

affiliatetracking.com

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11-08-2002, 03:26 PM

x3scripts.com is another

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11-08-2002, 03:34 PM

Chilihost,

We can help you establish the m,erchant account. There are several affilaite programs that work great with our system. Pornbroker mentioned 2 of them and MAP2 will be done in about a week. Clickman will also work and others.

---------------

Tornado,

Looking forward to working with you. I will let Karen know.

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BigE,

Let me know whatever you need to get rolling.

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11-08-2002, 04:34 PM

wow - $5,000 for affiliate software? ouch!
I guess that plan gets put on the backburner for a bit.

Cheers!

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11-08-2002, 04:54 PM

i am a happy netbilling customer

a free affiliate software would be real nice though,
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11-08-2002, 05:00 PM

chilihost,

Affiliatetracking.net is about $50 per month and works great with our system.

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11-08-2002, 10:02 PM

What ever happened to the benefit of the doubt?
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