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  • MrMaxwell
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Jul 2005
    • 10057

    #1

    If PR matters....

    www.pornhub.com is #1 in google for "porn" and PR0.. I don't understand, if PR is important.. then why is a PR0 #1 ? ?
  • SmokeyTheBear
    ►SouthOfHeaven
    • Jun 2004
    • 28609

    #2
    its actually a pr5
    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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    • MrMaxwell
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2005
      • 10057

      #3
      Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
      its actually a pr5
      Ah,
      I see..
      http://www.smartpagerank.com/result....ww.pornhub.com
      This fucking thing must be broken.
      I notice that it doesn't show reports from a pile of data centers like it use to

      I was thinking that maybe it was because of the sesining or seasoning ... being so old and all

      Adult sites just don't go above PR5 except for extreme exceptions, right?

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      • Basic_man
        Programming King Pin
        • Oct 2003
        • 27360

        #4
        Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!
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        • gwidomains
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          • May 2007
          • 426

          #5
          smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?

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          • PornMD
            Mainstream Businessman
            • Jan 2007
            • 9291

            #6
            Originally posted by Basic_man
            Pornhub is #1 because if their BLACKHAT SEO campaing... but the thing is Google do nothing against them!
            What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.
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            • Jdoughs
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              • Mar 2004
              • 5794

              #7
              Try google toolbar, I think they get it from the source
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              • Jdoughs
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                • Mar 2004
                • 5794

                #8
                Originally posted by PornMD
                What blackhat stuff are they doing? It's not like they've been #1 for a day or two...this has been several months now I think.
                Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

                But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.
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                • PornMD
                  Mainstream Businessman
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 9291

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jdoughs
                  Black Hat does not mean temporarily. Often blackhatters will use tossaway domains so you will see them come and go, and often they will use more risky methods, which seals their fate.

                  But again, Black Hat don't mean it won't last. It all depends what practices and barriers are set in place.
                  But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know what they're doing is considered black hat? I mean it seems to me if they've been #1 on Google for so long, Google doesn't see anything wrong with whatever "black hat" stuff they're doing, and black hat SEO methods would generally mean something that Google would not be happy about.
                  Last edited by PornMD; 08-30-2009, 04:59 PM.
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                  • Jdoughs
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5794

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PornMD
                    But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?
                    I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore.
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                    • MrMaxwell
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 10057

                      #11
                      All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
                      Where can I find a good pagerank checker???

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                      • MrMaxwell
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 10057

                        #12
                        All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
                        Where can I find a good pagerank checker???
                        This one at least says it's a PR3

                        http://oyoy.eu/google/pr/?url=http%3...r-tool.html&#r

                        DC: 64.233.161.18
                        Marlfield-Farm
                        PR: 3
                        0
                        DC: 64.233.167.184
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        53
                        DC: 364.233.169.133
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        1
                        DC: 64.233.161.184
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: 3
                        23
                        DC: 64.233.163.189
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: 3
                        37
                        DC: 64.233.171.18
                        white-snow
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        54
                        DC: 64.233.179.19
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        73
                        DC: 64.233.183.17
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        90
                        Working ...

                        108
                        DC: 64.233.187.19
                        Xanadu
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        124
                        Working ...

                        139
                        DC: 66.102.1.44
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: 3
                        149
                        DC: 66.102.7.18
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        161
                        DC: 66.102.9.18
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: 3
                        181
                        DC: 66.102.11.99
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: 3
                        196
                        DC: 66.249.81.18
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        202
                        DC: 66.249.83.19
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        219
                        Working ...

                        234
                        DC: 66.249.89.19
                        Mikey
                        PR: 3
                        246
                        DC: 66.249.91.18
                        (no name yet)
                        PR: ? (Retry)
                        258

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                        • Jdoughs
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 5794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PornMD
                          But what I'm asking is what have they done that's considered black hat that has enabled them to stay #1 on Google for one of the most searched words there is? If this question can't be answered, how do we know it's black hat?
                          I don't think you will get an answer to how they ranked number 1 for porn. If people other then them knew, they wouldn't be 1st anymore.
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                          • Pleasurepays
                            BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 11913

                            #14
                            they've been a pr5 for a long time now.

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                            • MrMaxwell
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 10057

                              #15
                              Here's one!!
                              http://www.seocentro.com/tools/searc...gerank-dc.html

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                              • Jdoughs
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 5794

                                #16
                                Mr Maxwell, download the google toolbar. Install if on a browser you dont use often, or right on your main one, either way, it will give you current rank.
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                                • MrMaxwell
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jul 2005
                                  • 10057

                                  #17
                                  Pagerank Results for: http://pornhub.com
                                  # Data Center Pagerank
                                  1 209.85.225.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  2 209.85.229.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  3 64.233.161.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  4 64.233.161.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  5 64.233.169.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  6 64.233.169.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  7 66.102.1.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  8 66.102.1.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  9 66.102.1.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  10 66.102.9.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  11 72.14.203.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  12 72.14.213.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  13 74.125.113.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  14 74.125.153.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  15 74.125.155.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  16 74.125.157.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  17 74.125.159.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  18 74.125.159.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  19 74.125.159.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  20 74.125.19.104 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  21 74.125.19.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  22 74.125.47.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  23 74.125.53.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  24 74.125.65.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  25 74.125.67.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  26 74.125.67.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  27 74.125.79.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  28 74.125.87.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  29 74.125.91.147 5 / 10 [5 / 10]
                                  30 74.125.93.99 5 / 10 [5 / 10]

                                  How come all of the other ones called it PR0 and some call it a PR3?

                                  Are there rogue datacenters fucking off lying to us, or what?

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                                  • dav3
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • May 2007
                                    • 7348

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by MrMaxwell
                                    All of the PR checkers I have been to are putting it at a PR0
                                    Where can I find a good pagerank checker???
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                                    • sicone
                                      Retired
                                      • Jan 2004
                                      • 18453

                                      #19
                                      Google toolbar has it at 5...

                                      http://www.domainpagerank.com/ says...

                                      Results:
                                      Google PageRank for pornhub.com
                                      0

                                      PageRank validation for pornhub.com
                                      http://www.pornhub.com: 302
                                      http://pornhub.com: 302
                                      This site's PageRank may be fake.

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                                      • Agent 488
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 22511

                                        #20
                                        http://tools.google.com/firefox/tool.../en/index.html

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                                        • MrMaxwell
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2005
                                          • 10057

                                          #21
                                          I got the google toolbar and I hate it and it wants to phone home..
                                          This would be fucking perfect if it worked with newer firefox.. anyone know if anyone made anything similar? With the PR in the bottom right of the status bar?
                                          https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2007

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                                          • MrMaxwell
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2005
                                            • 10057

                                            #22
                                            Here we go.. this is it
                                            Look at this, it's great http://pizzaseo.com/firefox-pagerank
                                            Is this what you were talking about, dave?

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                                            • MrMaxwell
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jul 2005
                                              • 10057

                                              #23
                                              Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?

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                                              • baddog
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by MrMaxwell
                                                Are PRs for the site.com and www.site.com sometimes different?
                                                Frequently.

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                                                • PR_Sebas
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                  • 2825

                                                  #25
                                                  Just did a quick one of these..

                                                  link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

                                                  They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.
                                                  Last edited by PR_Sebas; 08-30-2009, 06:42 PM.

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                                                  • charlie3273
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2008
                                                    • 376

                                                    #26
                                                    Why are you making a fuss dont you look at alexa website they got like 1,300 back links and redtube has over 3,000 backlinks . They maybe also doing something shady as well but that should do em for a pr5 and porn hub is like 8-9 years old.
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                                                    • Agent 488
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                      • 22511

                                                      #27
                                                      yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.

                                                      Originally posted by NwSebas
                                                      Just did a quick one of these..

                                                      link:http://www dot pornhub dot com

                                                      They have an ass load of backlinks. A very big ass load. The result you get from that doesn't even do it justice. That goes about 44 pages deep. They probably have double or triple that amount. That's one of the reasons they're #1. Also, they probably have a very low bounce rate. That doesn't hurt either.

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                                                      • MrMaxwell
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jul 2005
                                                        • 10057

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                        Frequently.
                                                        Hell

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                                                        • d-null
                                                          . . .
                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                          • 13724

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by budsbabes
                                                          yes they were insanely aggressive link building for that site. people can bitch but they sinply just out worked the competition.
                                                          they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

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                                                          • Jdoughs
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                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                            • 5794

                                                            #30
                                                            Unfortunately she's an old fashion girl that google, she needs to see some love before she fucks you.
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                                                            • Denny
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Feb 2005
                                                              • 17423

                                                              #31
                                                              it has a PR5 for a long time... check Google toolbar.

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                                                              • Oracle Porn
                                                                Affiliate
                                                                • Oct 2002
                                                                • 24433

                                                                #32
                                                                the stupidity in this thread is unbelievable.

                                                                anything not "organic" by google's terms is blackhat....


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                                                                • bdld
                                                                  $100,000
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 11452

                                                                  #33
                                                                  age, backlinks, frequency of updates, unfortunately they deserve it.

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                                                                  • pornguy
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 62910

                                                                    #34
                                                                    I see it as a 5 as welll.
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                                                                    • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                      • 7515

                                                                      #35
                                                                      www.bigtits.com is PR7 but nowhere in google

                                                                      go figure.

                                                                      that "seo guru" who was doing the optimization for them, fucked it up royally

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                                                                      • Pleasurepays
                                                                        BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                                        • 11913

                                                                        #36
                                                                        this thread is a prime example of how dumb this industry is.

                                                                        They've been a pr5 for a long time. PR matters a lot. people misunderstand completely WHY it matters. their sites do well because someone is out there hustling back links day in and day out. he does it on forums, he does it by icq, he's relentless and he doesn't stop. buying links, trading links well etc. thats why a few tube sites are on top for almost every relevant phrase (keez, pornhub, tube8 et al). same people. same guy. same tactics. there is nothing "black hat" about it. very simple methods exercised with fanatical consistency over a period of time.

                                                                        in the meantime, in 2009 ... 98% of this industry is totally baffled by SEO 101.

                                                                        what a fucking joke.

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                                                                        • Agent 488
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 22511

                                                                          #37
                                                                          there is no such thing as "irrelevant backlinks."

                                                                          Originally posted by d-null
                                                                          they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

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                                                                          • wizzart
                                                                            scriptmaster
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 5246

                                                                            #38
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                                                                            • Lace
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                                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                                              • 16116

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by gwidomains
                                                                              smokey where is a page rank checker that actually shows valid page rank?
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                                                                              • Agent 488
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                                                                                • Feb 2006
                                                                                • 22511

                                                                                #40
                                                                                considering the success of their link building campaign do you really think google considers those links "irrelevant?"

                                                                                Originally posted by d-null
                                                                                they've got a ridiculous amount of irrelevant backlinks too, they probably outsourced a bunch of third world link building or something (actually they probably do that on a continuing basis).... it would be hard for anyone to catch up even if they tried once they have the aged lead on the competition already, unless google decides to spank them for something (but it seems that google loves them anyways)

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                                                                                • Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 7515

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                                                  keez, pornhub, tube8 et al
                                                                                  all these sites belong to the same owner?

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