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I don't believe in all chiropractors, but I do believe in mine 100%. He worked miracles on my neck and lower spine when I first moved to Cali 2 years ago and I have the xrays to prove it. MY neck was bent the wrong way and 2 bones in my lower spine were out of wack from several car accidents I had been in. Now my neck is bent the correct way and my spine was perfectly straight..I was down to only seeing him once a month and feeling great until this happened.
I have full faith in him that he can correct this problem, and the only thing the "real" doctors have offered me is drugs.. pain killers, muscle relaxers and cortizone shots into my back.. now I know THAT'S not gna fix me. So I think it's kinda mean for you guys to come in here and try to piss in my cheerios, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.Comment
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We need a shaking head smilie.I don't believe in all chiropractors, but I do believe in mine 100%. He worked miracles on my neck and lower spine when I first moved to Cali 2 years ago and I have the xrays to prove it. MY neck was bent the wrong way and 2 bones in my lower spine were out of wack from several car accidents I had been in. Now my neck is bent the correct way and my spine was perfectly straight..I was down to only seeing him once a month and feeling great until this happened.
I have full faith in him that he can correct this problem, and the only thing the "real" doctors have offered me is drugs.. pain killers, muscle relaxers and cortizone shots into my back.. now I know THAT'S not gna fix me. So I think it's kinda mean for you guys to come in here and try to piss in my cheerios, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.Comment
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Anyone looking for health care should avoid Blue Cross Blue Shield ( or whatever they call themselves this week ). A local insurance agent came to my restaurant to talk about a group plan for my staff and told me that BCBS have a predilection of not paying out on large claims, so much so that a class action law suit was filed and BCBS lost to the tune of $100,000,000.00 Their comment was it was a cost of doing business and went right back to denying claimsicq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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What year? What state?Anyone looking for health care should avoid Blue Cross Blue Shield ( or whatever they call themselves this week ). A local insurance agent came to my restaurant to talk about a group plan for my staff and told me that BCBS have a predilection of not paying out on large claims, so much so that a class action law suit was filed and BCBS lost to the tune of $100,000,000.00 Their comment was it was a cost of doing business and went right back to denying claims
What carrier did you decide to go with?Last edited by baddog; 08-25-2009, 02:45 PM.Comment
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LOL that's the company my girlfriend Christiana and her husband just recommended to me. But she's a crazy bitch so I'd never take her advice heheAnyone looking for health care should avoid Blue Cross Blue Shield ( or whatever they call themselves this week ). A local insurance agent came to my restaurant to talk about a group plan for my staff and told me that BCBS have a predilection of not paying out on large claims, so much so that a class action law suit was filed and BCBS lost to the tune of $100,000,000.00 Their comment was it was a cost of doing business and went right back to denying claimsComment
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Havent decided yet . This guy will design a policy based on what i need and what is affordable. So i guess you could say it designer insurance. I will say it amazingly inexpensive ( $137+ per employee ) even with little or no deductibles and using a group plan no one can be turned away for pre existing issues
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That is quite amazing. I have requested ICQ authorization if you would not mind a couple questions.Havent decided yet . This guy will design a policy based on what i need and what is affordable. So i guess you could say it designer insurance. I will say it amazingly inexpensive ( $137+ per employee ) even with little or no deductibles and using a group plan no one can be turned away for pre existing issues
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So I hurt my back really bad almost 2 weeks ago. When I first hurt it, my chiro told me I needed an MRI ASAP to see if it was a slipped or torn disc. This was a Wednesday, I scheduled on for Thursday. Turns out my health insurance, Aetna, who I pay $200 for every month, pushed it back to Friday because they were trying to decide if they were going to pay for it or not. Then it got pushed back to Friday, Monday.. Tuesday they decide to not pay for it. They say I need to be injured and receiving treatment for 8 whole weeks before they would pay for anything. I will be in a fucking wheelchair if this goes on for 8 weeks! They also said I have a $5000 deductable on chiro, which basically means "fuck you pay for it yourself"
So I had to resort to shopping around for my own MRI.. I found them from $680-$490 is the cheapest I have found. The soonest they can get me in is Friday morn. Then I have to wait till Monday to get the results. So that will be almost 3 weeks with a back injury that should have gotten taken care of the day after I hurt myself.
I wont be surprised if I find out walking around with this injury for 3 weeks has fucked me up more and I will prob need MORE medical care, who knows if my insurance will pay for it or not.
Now I feel like calling them and screaming at them "WHAT THE FUCK DO I PAY YOU FOR... INSTANCES LIKE THIS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!!" but then they would probably drop me, then I'd be even more screwed.
I'm fucking pissed. thanx for letting me vent guys
I hurt my back years ago here in Canada
I had top quality medical care, for free, no worries.
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Glad to be in Czech.
National health insurance everybody pay and can get any time treatment as he needs.
Me and Paul did not used doctors about ten years and this and last year we took our benefits in big time. Lucky for us that the system is this way.Comment
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I've never heard of a health insurance company pushing back an appointment, that sucks. When I went in recently for a xray I just handed them my info, I didn't notify my health insurance company that I was going.
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You might want to consider ultrasound massage therapy, which is covered by many medical plans. I was born with my spine fused to my hips, so I have chronic back pain, yet whenever it gets unbearable, a single treatment of ultrasound usually does the trick, eliminating the pain right away.
I have tried chiropractors in the past, and they actually aggravated the problem, with their guesswork remedy / one solution fits all treatment.
Good luck on a full recovery...
I also support universal healthcare (a single payer option) - you can opt for your own healthcare, however basic healthcare is provided for all. That's basically the way that almost all of the first world countries do healthcare.
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Huggles, a lot of people here wont believe you...
they think that you have to go in front of a "death tribunal" and beg for your life...
awhile ago, i posted my personal experience with my Leukemia treatments in canada, which were very prompt and professional...next day my inbox was full of hate mail ....Comment
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Huggles, a lot of people here wont believe you...
they think that you have to go in front of a "death tribunal" and beg for your life...
awhile ago, i posted my personal experience with my Leukemia treatments in canada, which were very prompt and professional...next day my inbox was full of hate mail ....
Yep.
Anytime I, or any of my friends or family, have needed emergency medical treatment, we've always got immediate, excellent care, for free.
For-profit industries like medical insurance, or the prison industry, will foster an environment where people will be dumped to die or suffer so a company can profit, or laws will specifically be written to pump jails as full as possible for profit, with the least amount of rehab for the prisoners as possible.
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That's pretty fucking pathetic
And to think, most of those same haters would have us believe that Obama is the nazi.Comment
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Along with the adjustments I get at the chiro, I also get 10 or 15mins of ultrasound therapy, then TENS unit (low dose of electroshock is best way to describe it I guess) and this rollerbed thing, which I'm not doing now that I'm not supposed to move my back at all.You might want to consider ultrasound massage therapy, which is covered by many medical plans. I was born with my spine fused to my hips, so I have chronic back pain, yet whenever it gets unbearable, a single treatment of ultrasound usually does the trick, eliminating the pain right away.
I have tried chiropractors in the past, and they actually aggravated the problem, with their guesswork remedy / one solution fits all treatment.
Good luck on a full recovery...
I also support universal healthcare (a single payer option) - you can opt for your own healthcare, however basic healthcare is provided for all. That's basically the way that almost all of the first world countries do healthcare.
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I'm not sure that it alleviates the pain right away, or that it's helping at all. But it's part of the treatment so I do it anyways, couldn't hurt
ps- I realize I would def already be on the road to recovery and not worrying about how to pay for it or what step to take after the insurance company puts me in a bad spot if I lived in Canada or other places that have universal healthcare and I hope you all realize how lucky you are if you do live there
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Yeah it's too bad, but most procedures have to be prescribed by a medical doc for them to be approved and paid for. In addition, many agencies will not accept a statement of disability from a chiropractor, so people trying to qualify for benefits or time off from work are required to provide verification from a medical doctor.Comment
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My sister fell down the stairs and went to the local A&E. She was x-rayed within 3-4 hours and then transfered to another hospital for an emergency operation to remove the disc.
They told her if she hadn't of had it sorted straight away she would of been in wheelchair for life.
Thanks to the UK NHS.... I'm happy to pay my national insurance so people like my sister have a fighting chance.I don't endorse a god damn thing......
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That really sucks. I had a bulging disc and pinched sciatic nerve last winter. It's the most painful thing I have ever felt in my life, I couldn't sit, lay down, sleep, or do anything.
I saw a chiropractor and a naprapath, it took about a month and a half for the pain to subside. The naprapath helped a ton, finding a good one is difficult though.
Keep that in mind regardless of the MRI results. Back surgery and shots to reduce inflammation aren't always successful and sometimes result in other complications. Make sure you get an opinion from a couple doctors before deciding your treatment plan. Back injuries are serious and can result in life-long pain.
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When I threw my back out about 2 years ago I went to a chiro, the only thing that wound up really helping was "positional release" performed by a massage therapist. They kinda bend your body around and hold you in various positions while stretching you. It's really not that bad and it improves your range of motion. Took about a week and a half and I was back to normal.
Also use cold compresses. I know cold on your back totally sucks, but the cold reduces swelling and in the end will make it better. Also the stinging from the cold compress distracts from the back pain.
Also if you call the insurance company, ask to talk to someone who has the power to approve or deny the test, usually it's like a nurse practitioner... they have a special title but I don't remember what it is. Just stay on the line and don't take no for an answer. When you get this person on the line freak the fuck out. Don't curse at them, but seriously- cry, don't hold back. I have no shame, I did it when they refused to cover an MRCP scan I absolutely needed. When I was sure I had the right person on the phone flipped the bitch switch off and just let it all fly. Got it approved that day.Comment
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Why do I keep on hearing that phrase, "life long pain" I don't like itThat really sucks. I had a bulging disc and pinched sciatic nerve last winter. It's the most painful thing I have ever felt in my life, I couldn't sit, lay down, sleep, or do anything.
I saw a chiropractor and a naprapath, it took about a month and a half for the pain to subside. The naprapath helped a ton, finding a good one is difficult though.
Keep that in mind regardless of the MRI results. Back surgery and shots to reduce inflammation aren't always successful and sometimes result in other complications. Make sure you get an opinion from a couple doctors before deciding your treatment plan. Back injuries are serious and can result in life-long pain.
Good luck.
For now I have decided against any shots that will subside the pain, because when I dont feel the pain I get up and walk around and overdo it.
I am searching for an orthopedic spine specialist doctor to look over my xray and mri results and tell me what he thinks I need to do.
Im still following doctors orders and doing absolutely NOTHING for the most part, and I just hope to get on the road to recovery ASAP n put this behind me
ps the disc is 3mm bulging.. gna look it up how severe that is?Comment
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When I threw my back out about 2 years ago I went to a chiro, the only thing that wound up really helping was "positional release" performed by a massage therapist. They kinda bend your body around and hold you in various positions while stretching you. It's really not that bad and it improves your range of motion. Took about a week and a half and I was back to normal.
Also use cold compresses. I know cold on your back totally sucks, but the cold reduces swelling and in the end will make it better. Also the stinging from the cold compress distracts from the back pain.
Also if you call the insurance company, ask to talk to someone who has the power to approve or deny the test, usually it's like a nurse practitioner... they have a special title but I don't remember what it is. Just stay on the line and don't take no for an answer. When you get this person on the line freak the fuck out. Don't curse at them, but seriously- cry, don't hold back. I have no shame, I did it when they refused to cover an MRCP scan I absolutely needed. When I was sure I had the right person on the phone flipped the bitch switch off and just let it all fly. Got it approved that day.
Thanx hun I really think I'm going to.Comment
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forget about us! we want YOU to realize how lucky you'd all be if you just accepted the evils of socialized medicine into your lives.Along with the adjustments I get at the chiro, I also get 10 or 15mins of ultrasound therapy, then TENS unit (low dose of electroshock is best way to describe it I guess) and this rollerbed thing, which I'm not doing now that I'm not supposed to move my back at all.
I'm not sure that it alleviates the pain right away, or that it's helping at all. But it's part of the treatment so I do it anyways, couldn't hurt
ps- I realize I would def already be on the road to recovery and not worrying about how to pay for it or what step to take after the insurance company puts me in a bad spot if I lived in Canada or other places that have universal healthcare and I hope you all realize how lucky you are if you do live there
you should have never paid for an MRI. your health insurance decided against the best interests of your doctor and chiropractor? if i were you i'd be calling the local newspaper.Comment
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I was injured in the first gulf war in '91...which also included my back...and have lived 24/7 with agonizing...teeth grinding pain ever since...and nothing can be done about it. It is not pleasant so I hope you get over it.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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Wow, really? I'm so sorry to hear about that theking.. so how do you deal with the pain? What kinda of back injury is it?Comment
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I have a lawyer friend, who always tells me, "all insurance companies will rip you off, so find the cheapest, and we'll just sue them if the time comes." lolComment
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Aaliyah is only complaining because her site makes so little she has to install microwave ovens, custom kitchen deliveries, move refridgerators, and colour TV's on the weekends.https://3-veo.com/
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U think so pal?
Maybe you should sign up for her program and see how well it converts for yourself.
PS she does 90% of her biz as a webcam model
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As promised this is an article on the class action law suit in California
UPDATE 2-Insurers settle Calif. cancellation lawsuits
* Insurers settle lawsuits over policy cancellations
* Insurers to reinstate coverage for 3,1000 consumers
* Anthem to pay $15 million in reimbursement, fine
* Health Net to pay $8.8 million plus reimbursement (Adds comments from Anthem, Health Net)
LOS ANGELES, Feb 11 (Reuters) - Health Net Inc (HNT.N) and Wellpoint Systems' (WPS.V) Anthem Blue Cross Life and Health Insurance Co agreed to reinstate health coverage and reimburse medical costs for thousands of California policyholders whose coverage was improperly canceled, officials said on Wednesday.
The settlements, worth at least $25 million, end lawsuits brought on behalf of 3,100 policyholders by state Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner, Los Angeles City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo and private attorney William Shernoff.
Health Net, which was accused of unfairly terminating coverage for 800 people between 2004 and 2009, will reinstate their coverage, reimburse medical expenses and pay $6.3 million in damages and a $2 million penalty, Shernoff said.
The insurer also will reimburse policyholders for out-of-pocket medical expenses in an amount not yet calculated, a spokesman for Shernoff said.
Health Net also agreed not to suspend any California Individual or Family Plan member for one year or until state laws setting standards for cancellations take effect, Shernoff said. More herehttp://uk.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUKN1138700920090211icq. 176240424 44.years as a pornographer !!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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I had some disks crushed and my back broken...among other injuries. My back has been pinned and fused. I went through a pain management program...but I also have drugs available...including morphine patches...but I avoid the use of the drugs 99% of the time...for if I kill the pain then like you I do not watch my movement as I should and movement in the wrong way could cause paralysis. It is difficult to live with but I have managed to do so since '91.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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both for the lady in pain and the entire US, there is not any real good long term solutions to our pains and aches.
the insurance companies and brokers are only in it to make big bucks, the pharma and docs have turned the healthcare industry into the largest fiscal us industry
whats ahead? i think a company like Kaiser will be in a good spot to provide basic healthcare to the nation.
Back surgery is a last resort, so Aliayah will have to find alternative solutions to cope with her ailing back, I highly recommend seeing an acupuncturist.."Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author UnknownComment
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