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as well as they should.
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There will always be someone willing to host them, so TPB will just keep changing servers.
Why didn't the court seize their domains? If they did, it would be game over.
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Yup.. it is completely gone...i like wafflesComment
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everything is the source of evil to everyone. Its different for everyone. Anything could happen. Porn could be out lawed one day, but whether or not piracy is persecuted will have no affect on if porn is outlawed one day or not.
I personally don't like the piratebay torrent/illegal tube sites aka people who profit off of stolen content. I think the sites profiting off of stolen content are total shit but I do realize the laws make it grey with the DMCA shit. HOWEVER, the people who knowling steal content and share with these sites are NO DOUBT committing a crime. Why hasn't the porn industry gotten together like they did for acaci and 2257 and get a group together to start suing the actual USERS who steal the content and share it. A "Deterent" doesn't work for everyone but it does work for a lot of people. If these idiots that steal porn and share it start getting hit with even $500 fines most of them will stop. Look at the risk reward. What do they gain from stealing and sharing porn? They don't make money off of it, so what they get to be cool because they share a lot of porn ??? I don't get it. If they want to steal it and download it for their own personal use with out paying for it, fine. The problem where people should be sued and fined is for the ones that share it.
If the adult industry (minus dating and webcam sites) started doing this I think it would be surprised how many tube sites wouldn't be able to turn over data showing who did the uploading, because it was them. No DMCA protection then, talk about a nice case you would have against them.Last edited by will76; 08-24-2009, 10:29 AM.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Down here. I wonder if its just the site or the trackers too.
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the little fucks claim to be " anti capitalist" everything should be free but yet they profit off of their site really well.
If you make their cost to do business more that what they make, they will cease to exist. By making them move around, being down losing advertising revenue and their members going else where, not to mention new hardware costs they would incur, at some point they will stop. As much as they want it to look like they are doing this as a service for the people when their cause starts to cost them money they will find a new cause they can profit from.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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Anybody that likes to make money would host them. But that doesn't mean that the same thing wouldn't happen to that host as well, which is why most hosts won't touch it. What hosting company wants the govt. coming after them? TPB will end up in North Korea or China or some other communist or poor country that will do anything to fuck up the Western world's economy and won't have laws against what they are doing.-Robbie
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I'm surprised Sony hasn't put wack order out these guys.Comment
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Lately most goverments are short anyway because of the recession/bailouts so they try even harder to find that tax money.
In most, if not all cases, individuals and companies can't win from governments who have unlimited resources at hand, enforce it and make/write laws also and/or are subject of foreign government or lobby groups pressure.
An estimated 1% of all tier 1 countries working class, works in media/entertainment/music/film/software and an average person spends 10 to 20 per year on this market. Multiply that with the No. of inhabitants anually in a tier 1 country >>>> personal, income & busines tax.
That's what's at stake for a government's point of view next to the lobby pressure.Comment
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.com and .org are down for me. The author of the article, who called it "censorship",
needs to get a dictionary. Censorship is when the government examines all writings
before they are published, allowing only acceptable things to be published. The other
system is that where people publish first, then afterwards they are held responsible
for any unlawful publication such as copyright infringement, libel, etc. Piratebay is
being held accountable for what they have done, the crimes they have committed,
so it's not censorship. Under a censorship system their crimes wouldn't have possible
because the government would have to approve their web pages before they went live.For historical display only. This information is not current:
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.org and .com both down for me.
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I hope the piratebay does keep changing servers and pissing off Judges.. lets just get it out of the system now.
Show off the exploits and go back online.. Judges need to learn the best way to do things too
Obviously the judge doesn't want the fucking site online.. it will be real smart to snub him7Comment
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I think it's more complicated than just +/- ? Hell, if it was about money, no poor man would be sent to expensive jails. Or just shoot the looters
Lately most goverments are short anyway because of the recession/bailouts so they try even harder to find that tax money.
In most, if not all cases, individuals and companies can't win from governments who have unlimited resources at hand, enforce it and make/write laws also and/or are subject of foreign government or lobby groups pressure.
An estimated 1% of all tier 1 countries working class, works in media/entertainment/music/film/software and an average person spends 10 to 20 per year on this market. Multiply that with the No. of inhabitants anually in a tier 1 country >>>> personal, income & busines tax.
That's what's at stake for a government's point of view next to the lobby pressure.
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yeah "torrents used mostly for legal timeshifting"
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good.
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Well...if such a thing ever were to succeed, they'll be watcing "Back to the future 3" as a new release for the coming 100 years
But these people do have a point though.
Where can you buy a new release video legally in the entire world once they start the trailers & marketing and therefore create demand where it has no legal supply except for a few countries much later in time frame, considered "old" by then by end users?Comment
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No seriously.
I watch TV and trailers on the web all the time and I WANT to pay for something after it "gets my attention" but it seems not available online to buy at all. And if you talk to studios about it, they've never looked at it that way before since they are all old school and don't use the latest technologies.
I'd give 20$ to see 2012 in HD today after seeing so many trailers, marketing and ads; where can I get it legally in my country (Holland)?
There lies the problem also. Marketeers tickle your balls but don't offer happy endings within 2 years. And that part sucks.Comment
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Down here ,trackers down too.Comment
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This has absolutely no affect on our industry. All those jackasses saying it's a good thing are just stupid sheep.Comment
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So what? There's like 1000 other torrent sites...Comment
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I would assume that most movies that come out on DVD are available to you in Holland is that not correct? Sometimes you just have to wait. It sucks, but that is just how it is. Just because it isn't conveniently available to someone doesn't mean they should be allowed to just download it for free.
That said I think some kind of pay per view online stream would be pretty cool. Something where you could go online and pay the same price as a movie ticket and watch a stream of the movie. They would have to protect it so that it didn't get downloaded, but I think there might be a market for something like that.Comment
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While there may not have been much porn on TPB ( I honestly don't know if there was or wasn't) getting a torrent sharing site like this shut down is a good thing for any industry that deals with the creation and selling of content. We may not benefit today from it, but it does help set legal president which can help us down the road.Comment
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Well, many commercials are the "coming soon.." kind, so obviously it is not released yet. Then you usually have the cinemas on release.
There are few who can watch streaming movies in Blu-Ray format. For now. But alternatively, they could download it and "rent" it for a period of time. Or buy a download. I don't think the problem is the lack of willingness to use technology, but the complexity of international trade and contracts.
There should, and will be, changes, but lets be realistic; These guys are only using it as an excuse to justify their crimes. It sucks for those who wants to pay, like you, but these are not even willing to pay 20-30 bucks for the suggested model on pirate bay. Even if it was unlimited "legal" downloads. They have so many "arguments", like gideongallery, but in the end of the day it is all bullshit. Just take a look at all the other stuff, except from these new movies; Music, tv-shows, porn, software... you can get it instantly on release - but do they pay? Nope...Comment
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As expected, The Pirate Bay site relocated and is back online (DNS still has to update for some people). A Pirate Bay insider told TorrentFreak that they ?got a new connection to the net.? The tracker is still down and is expected to be fully operational tomorrow morning, we were told. Ever since their servers were raided back in 2006 they were prepared for takedown attempts like this.
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...rities-090824/
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Yep torrentfreak is where I expect to get unbiased news about thieves from thieves. Glad the thought of it makes you happy.As expected, The Pirate Bay site relocated and is back online (DNS still has to update for some people). A Pirate Bay insider told TorrentFreak that they ?got a new connection to the net.? The tracker is still down and is expected to be fully operational tomorrow morning, we were told. Ever since their servers were raided back in 2006 they were prepared for takedown attempts like this.
http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...rities-090824/
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I have no idea why TV shows aren't available via streaming online. Shows like 24, House MD, etc... that shit needs to be broadcasted. Run ads, I don't care. I'm sure they're going to do this eventually, but they need to hurry the F up.
What gets complicated is the "rights" - - they wont broadcast it live in Europe/S America/Some other place because another company owns the rights of distribution there, etc.. .they need to do away with regional rights all together I think, now that we are in the Internet age and no longer require hard copy distribution. In 10 years I can't imagine many folks will buy DVDs, they should be able to purchase/stream crap from the internet direct to their LCD TVs
Also, TPB isn't going anywhere I'm sure it will be back, and not go away.. probably ever.-- JerryComment
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Hollywood is a little different here
All though it varies per studio or title...
When it hits the cinema in the US, it's not in the cinema here for another 3 to 18 months...
When it's on DVD in the US, it comes here in Europe 3 to 6 months later and customs and import laws do not allow to import US dvds thru e-commerce.
In most cases what US people see free on HULU, we get paid versions of a year later.
Not bashing US here btw. Just so you know.
I read about (on gfy) movies you guys see in the cinema, on dvd or pay tv that we will get in a year or so...
Is that not silly ? People wanting to buy things legally on mass scale(!) but only to find out they can't have it, whereas Google, torrents and p2p DO know and show where the alternative is that costs nothing?
The solution is so simple for Hollywood studios. But nobody adresses it properly.
It's like the movie Lethal Weapon 3 (or 4); What ever you want, Leo getz! Get it?
Legal alternatives together with google/yahoo/bing....maybe apple will bring salvation.
But unfortunatly it goes per country for Apple (Where Apple is not to blame because they WANT to...but studios don't).Comment
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Small correction most movies on Hulu are old ones. Also back in 80's a movies didn't come out on video until a year or more after it hit theaters. Hell ET took 7 years. Now it's 3 or 4 months. People in the US download shit from these sites when the movie is still in the theaters. My son's teacher this past spring showed Monsters & Aliens to her class less than 2 weeks after it hit theaters. Then gave the kids the name of the website where they could show their parents how to get free movies too.Hollywood is a little different here
All though it varies per studio or title...
When it hits the cinema in the US, it's not in the cinema here for another 3 to 18 months...
When it's on DVD in the US, it comes here in Europe 3 to 6 months later and customs and import laws do not allow to import US dvds thru e-commerce.
In most cases what US people see free on HULU, we get paid versions of a year later.
In the US it's theater then 3-4 months later DVD, 1 month later PPV/online download. It will take awhile but studios will learn that they'd be better off and pirating will be reduced if they released the movie in all formats at the same time. Not everyone want to go to the theater and those that don't want to wait for the DVD are going to see it one way or another so why not go ahead and give them access to it. The fewer excuses you give people to download torrents the less likely they will do so.Comment
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Until the speed of action and cost of prosecution are improved it won't mean much.
The good news is that the RapidShare ruling in Germany goes in the same direction.
The bad news is that it still takes 4 years to shut down pirate bay and costs a ton of money.... but it takes less than 4 hours and almost no money to make a new pirate site on another domain. That ratio is the problem.... not any one particular url....
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I agree that all of the delays seem crazy. With the internet now so readily available people all over the world see things and hear about things at the same time. I can understand to some degree a delay in TV shows. Most TV shows make it overseas through syndication and they normally have to wait until the show has at least 100 episodes to do that. So that can take some time. But it makes no sense at all with movies. If the movie is hot there is no doubt people in other countries would want to see it and if they know it is going to be a couple of years until they can see it many will just download it from a torrent site. If they distributed the movies in these other countries at the same time (or as we said offer some kind of pay per view model online) they could get sales then instead of losing them to people who otherwise turn to torrents.Hollywood is a little different here
All though it varies per studio or title...
When it hits the cinema in the US, it's not in the cinema here for another 3 to 18 months...
When it's on DVD in the US, it comes here in Europe 3 to 6 months later and customs and import laws do not allow to import US dvds thru e-commerce.
In most cases what US people see free on HULU, we get paid versions of a year later.
Not bashing US here btw. Just so you know.
I read about (on gfy) movies you guys see in the cinema, on dvd or pay tv that we will get in a year or so...
Is that not silly ? People wanting to buy things legally on mass scale(!) but only to find out they can't have it, whereas Google, torrents and p2p DO know and show where the alternative is that costs nothing?
The solution is so simple for Hollywood studios. But nobody adresses it properly.
It's like the movie Lethal Weapon 3 (or 4); What ever you want, Leo getz! Get it?
Legal alternatives together with google/yahoo/bing....maybe apple will bring salvation.
But unfortunatly it goes per country for Apple (Where Apple is not to blame because they WANT to...but studios don't).Comment
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i agree...PB is a drop in the bucket..if the studios could just figure out the legal way so that they can release a movie on multiple formats at the same time that would make illegal sites virtually nonexistent....many times i would rather watch a new movie at home verses dealing with people in theaters...make it available in theaters for those that want to go there, download for those that would rather watch it in the comfort of their homes....
problem is that everyone around the world has to be cut into the profits....with licensing fees, distribution fees, customs, blah blah blah....having basically one digital format for the masses around the world cuts alot of ppl out of that profit margin....great for the studios, even prob good for the consumer...the middle man is who would suffer unless they can agree on the terms...
unfortunately even if we get every studio to release a movie across the world at the same time on multiple media platforms, you will still have people that will figure out how to rip it and share it for free....nature of the human race and even more the nature of people that run/visit/download from these types of sites...even if you release it at the same time, people will still want a free copy and someone will give it to them...
stream something that cannot be ripped...maybe a small cure...but then someone will figure out the process and crack that code...we live in the times thatwhen people are told they cant do something, it drives them even more to find a way they can...
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