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  • bhe221
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2021
    • 21

    #1

    New Here - Some Questions

    Hello,

    I just joined and would like to introduce myself to this community and get some newbie questions answered as well. I frequent sites like SA to meet sugarbabies and I exclusively only meet those who are open to being filmed (money talks!). I would love to get started in terms of trying to monetize this hobby of mine (or partially offsetting costs/breaking even). Questions below:

    1.) For videos filmed in the past (with consent of course), but without 2257 documentation during that day - are those videos just never going to get legally monetized? I understand 2257 is a US law, so are there alternative avenues in terms of trying to monetize those (e.g. sites based in other countries)? Can I retroactively request permission to distribute/commercialize in order to comply with 2257?

    2.) For future videos, I understand I basically need 2 documents: a.) 2257 document and b.) model release form. In order to fill out these two documents, I need to get photo identification (2 or 3 IDs) from the model. Anything else I'm missing? I would like to get started on MV or C4S. Are there other sites I should consider? I should say I am not a fan of subscription business model such as OF.

    2.a.) For MV and C4S - what type of proof do they need? Ex: a picture of front/back drivers license + drivers license with model side by side. My understanding is that with mastercard - this has become more stringent lately and they immediately request documents before "publishing" any video with co-stars in it. I just want to make sure I do this right.

    3.) Where do you all source college-aged models (18-23)? SA seems to work great for me, but only a subset of the population there is obviously willing to be recorded. Now with 2257 + model release, that subset becomes even smaller. I am aware of sexyjobs as well, but definitely looking for other avenues to source talent from.

    Thanks in advance!
  • roganoli
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 757

    #2
    STOP... No more money in porn

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    • CaptainHowdy
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Dec 2004
      • 94028

      #3
      Welcome to the zoo . . .

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      • J. Falcon
        www.AdultCopywriters.com
        • May 2006
        • 31587

        #4
        Welcome to GFY
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        • fuzebox
          making it rain
          • Oct 2003
          • 22353

          #5
          If you don't have a contract with a signature and a copy of the performers ID, that video is worthless and honestly you should destroy it.

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          • bhe221
            Confirmed User
            • Sep 2021
            • 21

            #6
            Originally posted by fuzebox
            If you don't have a contract with a signature and a copy of the performers ID, that video is worthless and honestly you should destroy it.
            Would it hold up in court if I got these retroactively, PRIOR to content distribution?

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            • hornyasf
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2021
              • 185

              #7
              Welcome aboard!

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              • Look Chang
                Voyeur
                • Sep 2010
                • 3684

                #8
                Welcum to the bordello

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                • Markul
                  Likes Pie
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 12404

                  #9
                  Welcome to GFY
                  But.... I pulled out...

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                  • Publisher Bucks
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2018
                    • 1337

                    #10
                    Originally posted by bhe221
                    Would it hold up in court if I got these retroactively, PRIOR to content distribution?
                    No.

                    You need those documents prior to filming.
                    Extreme Link List - v1.0

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                    • ZTT
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2019
                      • 659

                      #11
                      I get MV, C4S and OF, but what is SA? SA to me just means Something Awful.
                      __________________

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                      • bhe221
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2021
                        • 21

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Publisher Bucks
                        No.

                        You need those documents prior to filming.
                        Shame... will need to make sure I get these moving forward

                        Originally posted by ZTT
                        I get MV, C4S and OF, but what is SA? SA to me just means Something Awful.
                        Sugar dating site

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                        • pornlaw
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 1902

                          #13
                          If you're not holding the camera, you're also going to need a work for hire, or you won't own the content you just paid for. The cameraman will.
                          Michael

                          www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                          • bhe221
                            Confirmed User
                            • Sep 2021
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pornlaw
                            If you're not holding the camera, you're also going to need a work for hire, or you won't own the content you just paid for. The cameraman will.
                            Starting off small so it will just be me for now - but appreciate the note

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                            • el_mago
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 353

                              #15
                              ManyVids will provide you the model release they will need to sign, you'll also need a copy of their IDs, that's it I think.

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                              • bhe221
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2021
                                • 21

                                #16
                                Thanks to all - now curious what the going rate is to shoot a scene these days. Again - I work mostly with college amateurs (through SA) and 1.) getting them to agree to a shoot // 2.) getting them to agree to a shoot AND letting me distribute are two different things.

                                Would a $1,500 - $2,000 compensation be competitive in this market? Vanilla b/g

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                                • MatureKing
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2006
                                  • 4312

                                  #17
                                  legendary MOVIE - Can I take your photo? (~short movie)
                                  Hell Thailand - trailer
                                  Hell Thailand - movie

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                                  • fuzebox
                                    making it rain
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 22353

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bhe221
                                    Would it hold up in court if I got these retroactively, PRIOR to content distribution?
                                    I am not a lawyer, but as far as I know yes. Date of production should be noted along with date of signature.

                                    Also we are talking about two documents here... the 2257 proof of age document, as well as a model release granting you ownership of the content.

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                                    • SekobA
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Oct 2008
                                      • 12154

                                      #19
                                      Welcome ..be patient, you can earn muchbmore than you think

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                                      • CurrentlySober
                                        Too lazy to wipe my ass
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 38945

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by ZTT
                                        I get MV, C4S and OF, but what is SA? SA to me just means Something Awful.
                                        Smelly Ass?

                                        Nah, they mean SeekingArrangement.com - Which now redirects to the shorter 'seeking' URL...


                                        👁️ 👍️ 💩

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                                        • ruff
                                          I have a plan B
                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 5499

                                          #21
                                          Isn't it smart, if you are paying the model, to mention that in the release? Money changing hands makes a deal solid.
                                          CryptoFeeds

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                                          • NicoleGrey
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2020
                                            • 584

                                            #22
                                            Hello and welcome to GFY!
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                                            • bhe221
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2021
                                              • 21

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ruff
                                              Isn't it smart, if you are paying the model, to mention that in the release? Money changing hands makes a deal solid.
                                              Wouldn't this complicate things (ex: needing to give them a contractor 1099 form?)

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