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If it was a scene group or somebody with connections. Hey thats a surprise but this is just one of many owners who have their own mini site.
At least is somebody right
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no court has said it was illegal either
but two precedents support it
the one that justified the operation MST3k and Steve Smith Playhouse both of which ran entire movies with either running commentary or a different audio dub.
and the ruling in favor of the EFF downfall parody.
so the at best you can claim is your arguement is complete unsupported by a single solitary case (and contricted by at least one precedent -- first one)
while mine is supported by two precedents which as of yet have not been explictly stated to be true yet.
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ya you definitly did - in the thread that made me totally not respond to you ever again
and here you got me sucked in again
you are conveniently delusional and - (i suspect) - a pathalogical liar
and in NO country, and NO reality, does any 'fair use' legislation allow for the full public free posting of a work in its entirety un-modified / un-cut / un-abridged
as a matter of fact - it specifically denies such use.
so torrent sites (newsgroups / sharing forums / rapidscum / blah blah...) are GUILTY of infringing action and need to be policed, regulated, shut down, whatever.
I really don't give a fuck if GM wants to torrent the technical specs of a new car - I don't give a flying fuck if radiohead wants to give their latest album away for free. IT IS THEIR CHOICE to do so. When my members area gets ripped and posted 6 ways to hell for free - and it was NOT my choice - then the perpetrators and facillitators need to be schooled.
no one ever says that torrent sites need to be shut down based solely on their being the next iteration of your beloved 'VCR , but because they KNOWINGLY promote, profit-from, and facilitate, copyright infringement and theft of someones revenue stream.
if those fuckers dropped (were forced to drop) ALL copyright violating material, and were regulated to CHECK content on their sites - you can be sure that the torrent trackers would be barren wastelands - and suddenly 'torrent' sites would all but fade into history.
they are there and successful BECAUSE of the illegal portion of their 'service'. Anyone who thinks differently is... well... you.
I am glad that 1 more bites the dust
(TLDR version: all forms of file sharing sites need to be regulated internationally, and held accountable for the content on their sites)
.believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term
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Well, you said you pay piracy tax - and argued with "how can anyone tell if I do not have the right to download x". So I assume you thought you could download anything without worry - legally.
It is the copyright holders who are responsible for acting on the case, and they are given rights to do so. Since IPSs are required to log all our traffic now, and keep the logs for 1 year, they can get the logs... and together with 1 administrative representative from the courts, knock on the door and get your computer equipment. There are of course procedures and rights, like the right to get a laywer before they touch anything.Comment
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many more to follow
watch out illegal tubes and buyers of add spots at illegal tubes
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He is so narcissistic and so eager for attention that he has a script that puts him on "red alert" whenever the word "gideon" is used on GFY.
I seriously love you gideongallery. You make my day with your insanity. You're not even in our business, and yet I can play you like a fiddle on GFY (which is a board that you don't even belong on) Never change big guy, never change...-Robbie
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Are you aware that the "illegal tubes","warez forums", or even "Brazzers" are not part of the problem this industry is facing right? Just saying because I think otherwise and no it isn't the owners themselves. Piracy has been always here and mostly will always be here. There will be always a "network" to share "pirate" things.
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amazing you said that after timeshifting in a cloud was ruled to be legal by the unites states supreme court.
the network effect does not invalid the fair use right of backup, if it did system management servers would be illegal unless microsoft authorized the common image. for their os and software.so torrent sites (newsgroups / sharing forums / rapidscum / blah blah...) are GUILTY of infringing action and need to be policed, regulated, shut down, whatever.
I really don't give a fuck if GM wants to torrent the technical specs of a new car - I don't give a flying fuck if radiohead wants to give their latest album away for free. IT IS THEIR CHOICE to do so. When my members area gets ripped and posted 6 ways to hell for free - and it was NOT my choice - then the perpetrators and facillitators need to be schooled.
no one ever says that torrent sites need to be shut down based solely on their being the next iteration of your beloved 'VCR , but because they KNOWINGLY promote, profit-from, and facilitate, copyright infringement and theft of someones revenue stream.
if those fuckers dropped (were forced to drop) ALL copyright violating material, and were regulated to CHECK content on their sites - you can be sure that the torrent trackers would be barren wastelands - and suddenly 'torrent' sites would all but fade into history.
they are there and successful BECAUSE of the illegal portion of their 'service'. Anyone who thinks differently is... well... you.
I am glad that 1 more bites the dust
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likewise the network effect does not invalidate timeshifting.
if you bought a right to the show, thru your cable bill timeshifting from a cloud is just as legal as timeshifting from a cassette.
the only person breaking the law would be the person didn't buy the show in the first place.
not the seeder (who is never giving away a working copy of the file)
not the tracker (who is only pointing out the seeder)
not the leacher (who has a fair use right to timeshift)
if the right was full then the courts would have allowed them access to all records in canadian case i gave you
if that right was abolute then viacom would have had to accept redacted logs from youtube.
privacy rights are still supercede, you must prove guilt of something before you get to violate my privacy. In the case of canadian law which has clearly defined privacy requirements PIPEDA it even more insurmountable.
well since the ruling in the case downfall parody didn't define a specific number of minutes where parody was valid and where parody was not. I can claim that i believe i have a right to do it. Even if you get a ruling that i was wrong, you can't argue wilful infringement anymore. I at best "accidently" violated your copyright as a result of misinterpreting a decidely incomplete ruling.
Given the fact that there would be no logical way you could claim that a movie completely changed in context by a brand new dialog could ever convince someone who wanted to see the orginal with correct dialog from watching your copy means their is no economic loss would mean even if you won you could get any damages. (stat gone because not wilful, real gone because you can't prove loss)
That assuming i lost.
the lack of a lost profit would in fact make a good arguement that it just like the downfall parody the completely different created by the new expression of dialog causes no economic damage and therefore meets the 4 conditions of fair use.Last edited by gideongallery; 08-12-2009, 06:15 PM.
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Yes, whatever you do, sneakernet will still be there
But like slavery, violence and war, child prostitution or whatever you do not accept, you can limit it. It is the growth that is the problem, and if you accept creation of such growing culture, it will fail for everyone. Including the pirates themselves... if they can't pay for products, how do you think they can pay for other basic needs, if they destroy the economy for the ones who pay taxes?Comment
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Newsgroups and other little sharing sites from the past aren't even in the same league my friend. And yes it IS the problem the business is facing. I've been in online porn just about as long as anybody in this business and I have never seen anything like this. When entire members areas are ripped on torrent sites and tube sites are showing full scenes it becomes impossible to make money selling porn.
That is the reason that production is so badly down, advertising is down, you can NOT sell a membership to a site that is already available for FREE in it's entirety.
Bottom line is...the tide is starting to turn. Clowns like gideongallery now have to face the fact that the clock is ticking on piracy. Many have made quick money grabs, but that is coming to an end soon as well.-Robbie
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I have no reason to believe this guy wasn't arrested, because the site is down and Eric from Remove Your Content is an honest guy.
That being said, I guarantee you he wasn't arrested because of pirated porn on his site. Most likely it was Hollywood movies or Microsoft software and the like that did him in. The FBI doesn't give a rat's ass about porn copyrights, since the owners of the copyrights themselves usually can't be bothered to enforce them...Comment
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Canadian laws do not apply here. But of course they have good proof before they knock on your door. They have not failed in one case yet, but for now the cases have been major infringements only.
You should stop downloading Ally McBeal from your cloud. If you want to defend it with stupidity or "accidently" violations you would need to bribe a doctor to witness...
In the real world, rulings are usual logical and common sense. Do you have it? If your arguments or "precedence" was valid, everyone could just upload full movies with "parody subtitles" in any language, and point to "fair use". You know as well as me, that ruling will never happen, so leaving out your assumptions, the question about ruling will only be about how much damage you actually made.Comment
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I was talking about scene sites. That you cannot stop and there hasn't been any major scene busts in 3 years, when I mean "major" I mean scene groups who have been in the game for a long time.
Can you stop sites like these?
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http://orlydb.com/s/xxx
If you can then you have been in the industry a long time to know how to take them down.
Picture provided by http://orlydb.com (only shows you content released in the scene) this is a public site there is still a lot more releases not being put here. Privates will show you more.http://www.dup3.me
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Youtube has scenes sliced for almost every movie I can imagine.
Example:
Kill Bill Scenes: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f
Godfather Scenes: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f
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Ripped by a little kid who may or may not know what he is doing. Scene groups know what they are doing and is organized in order, without order well...there isn't anything.Youtube has scenes sliced for almost every movie I can imagine.
Example:
Kill Bill Scenes: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f
Godfather Scenes: http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f
PIRATES!
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Those are nothing. No traffic, not much damage done by those tiny things at all.
Nothing like the millions of full scenes being stolen, viewed, and monetized by thieves every day, which is hurting the business big time.
Now as far as taking down what you are talking about...I've never tried. But if I found my stuff on there I'd put RYC on the case and get my stuff dmca'ed down. That site does have a hosting company and a registrar as well if they were to ignore the request.-Robbie
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I guess he will be "time shifting" his ass in jail.
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Thing is ..those who own the biggest sites (whether forums, file hosting sites, newsgroups whatever it is) if their only objective is to spread warez around they should have something like this..and if they don't they wish they did.
RYC cannot search through a server and it isn't open to the public but those who have access to them can do damage on a very wide scale. There is 100's of BNCs for you to get to the real server when your going through a scene site. Is going to take a lot of investigation to get to the source and if you break the rules well you may get there quicker.
RYC that guy is a tool but he does what he does for people so I guess that is OK for people who pay him.
Most scene sites nowadays are in Europe or Asia, well the good ones of course. I can always start anywhere and say here is my scene site. That picture was from todays date. Tomorrow there will be so many folders on that site and so on and yes Brazzers content do get pirated on a wide scale as well.
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..and to the dumbass who thinks I will "hook" him up because your offering 100$ of dollars / month to get you on these sites is delusional. I just delete things like that all the time. Not interested in helping you if its 100 1000 10000 a month. FUCK OFF.
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Have you read this story? http://wp-board.com/
If same strategy is happening to the pirate bay - music and movie industry are the real buyers - it will be the biggest bust ever. It would be epic
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www.aboutthescene.comHave you read this story? http://wp-board.com/
If same strategy is happening to the pirate bay - music and movie industry are the real buyers - it will be the biggest bust ever. It would be epic
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Bro, I must be totally lost. What I saw doesn't look like much of anything at all to me. Excuse my ignorance of "scene sites" But what is the point of that site? Looks almost like some guys private porn stash. Not real user friendly from what I saw in my brief look. It looks like one of my buddies private porn stash's from 1997. What is the deal on those kind of sites? And why would it be any threat to anybodies sales? Educate me and get me up to speed.-Robbie
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So it's a warez site? That's what you're saying is a bigger threat than torrent and tube sites to the porn business?-Robbie
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No problem. Scene sites are what they are if you read from here (www.aboutthescene.com). The site like orlydb.com are "databases" of telling you what is out in the "scene". The scene is kind of like a community you probably have heard of but never got in to or would be hard to do so. Those who are in it and there is some who abuse their power to leak the very good rips of whatever it is porn.games.music to the Internet when you see on the internet the.porn.movie.here-weirdname on the end is mostly from a scene group and people recognize that.
In other words scene sites work different from file hosting sites + torrents because they do not publicly give things out..those who are in the scene mostly leak stuff out to the sites above (torrents/filehosting/newsgroups etc) not everything from the scene gets leaked out but believe me everything that is media is ORGANIZED,LABELED, and properly put somewhere so people can find it easy.
Why have a site like that ..the database so you have some information about the release and if your in the scene you can look it up. Is not a "central" server where people go and get stuff. The site aboutthescene.com should clear it up.
However if you look through that site is not just porn is amongst a lot of things like xbox360 ps2 bluray dvdr xvid wii and the list goes on and if you go to the bottom of the page you will see "next page" there is always something being released EVERY minute (yes every minute) in all parts of the scene whether is from the USA (english) or Germany (german) or Asia (JPN KR etc etc) there is divisions all over. For example if a site like Twistys brings a copy out tomorrow expect a group to be all over that ..PROPERLY rip it and encode it to "scene standards" and put it out on the scene.
Hopefully that helps.
Scene sites > Most sites online.
If you have scene site access and your in the warez business ...
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Yes is a warez site just with a better / smarter people who know what the hell they are doing. Yes everything is connected to a scene site in one form of another there isn't "ONE" person or "ONE" company ripping out everything for themselves or their sites. That is just crazy and stupid because there is already a community for it.http://www.dup3.me
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I think you might be offbase on the damage that site can do to sales. A much more potent surfer force is at work on surfer forums dedicated to stealing content and posting the scenes up on torrents and tube sites. WAY bigger traffic numbers, much more surfer friendly, and a much bigger "community". The warez site is just too "geeky" for most folks and doesn't even register as far as damaging the business. Probably just the way the warez guys would like to keep it too.-Robbie
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Scene group rips and releases a release to the scene -> spread out to scene sites -> scene member leaks out to -> forums / blogs / torrent sites / newsgroups / irc / ftps / and so on -> regular users duplicate -> keep spreading content out.
In more detail http://www.aboutthescene.com/thescene/hierarchy.html
If you get rid of the last group where the users are just spreading it out more that won't stop anything. You have to get the real "root" of the problem and they make it hard for you to not get in it.
You go to orlydb.com go to the XXX page and you Google search the top latest DVD and you will see it was recently put out on the market. There is about 10-15 DVDs out everyday from the USA not including the other countries out there.
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I understand what you're saying. I just think you may be overstating it. Millions of surfers have no idea about that site. They simply download a scene and go straight to the torrent site and upload it, then go the forum like pornbb and brag to their buddies and give the download url.
The root of the problem doesn't lie in the warez sites. Those sites were around for forever and never hurt anything. The explosion in torrent and illegit tubes made everything nice and easy. And once it was discovered how to get through the "user uploaded" loophole it was a shitstorm. But the site you're talking about? It doesn't even register in this problem. Which is a GOOD thing.-Robbie
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Well, on the bright side...at least gideongallery could possibly turn to warez sites now. Maybe he can invent a warez recorder like he did with his bit torrent recorder. Then he can use the warez sites to "time shift" on a "cloud" to his hearts content.
At least maybe that will work out for him. Because right now the side he's pulling for (the pirates) are starting to have their asses handed to them.
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Don't jam out on me now Robbie
EVERY individual source of free porn is not a killer in itself - the aggregate total is.
and really - how many computer support techs are there in the world? help desk people (tier 1/2/3)? sysadmins? programmers? computer savvy new generations? self educated geeks? ordinary corporate suits that really aren't stupid paper shufflers and have had computers in their lives for a decade+? computer sales? comuter electronics techs? and on and on and on....
the geek factor is truely where the root of file sharing lives
the damage caused by this sector is a lot larger than you are giving them credit for.
and they number in the millions
.believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term
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