Fiddy prisoned pirates...soon hopefully. They do deserve it.
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Yes, what you call it, does not change the fact that it is a crime. In the end it is about the damage you've done. However, if you do more than just infringe, like making money off it directly, I would also call it theft because you may steal from another peoples income. Further, organizing or sponsoring such activities is conspiracy to fraud and/or theft.Last edited by Dirty Dane; 08-12-2009, 02:08 PM.Comment
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k page two time to confirm that every single person on page 1 has never downloaded a song from internet, and does not own a single DVD copy of a movie!
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Guy uses other people's hard work to profit for himself....He goes to jail.
BWAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey gideongallery, stick that in your torrent recorder and smoke it!
I told you what was coming, but you just love content theft so much you won't listen. BWAAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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but the biggest problem with misrepresenting it as theft is that you deny the fair use distribution and the legal right of companies to profit from those distribution (like sony selling vcrs).
if a content producer choose not to fully provide for those fair use right, competitors have a right to come in and fulfill that need for a profit because quite simple the exclusive rights don't exist for fair use. (that what a not withstanding clause means)
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gideongallery is wrong again...BWAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sorry guys. I can't help but sit here and giggle at poor old gideongallery. I will stop posting about him in this thread now....but Gideon, please know that I am sitting here with tears in my eyes from the laughter at your b.s.-Robbie
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Nope, you may want to read this.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/200...sharer-675000/
he didnt do anything for profit, anyone justifying downloading songs is blinded by their greed and their own piracy!
I do not use limewire or any of that shit, buy your music! There is always ? infringers in these threads barking the loudest!
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Are you really as fucking stupid as you come off here or is this just a board persona thing?
On second thought, I'm convinced that you really are this dumb.
That is unless this is all about you firing up your trusty bong again
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LOL if you are too dumb to grasp my sarcasm its you who is stupid LOL
BTW adding you to ignore so i wont see your dumb shit anymore...
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If I gave you authorization to download my content for personal use, you may do so. But if you distribute it to others who have no authorization to copy it, it is infringement (even in Canada
). And if you additionally make profit off it, and transfer my income to you, then it is theft. That logic is not complicated to understand, is it? "Fair use" in such a situation is non-existant. I could care less how you do it, and which technology you use, or what others do. It is your actions with my content that matters and the damage you cause to me, that matter. And if it is organized involving tons of other infringements and theft, it becomes more than a civil case - a case for law enforcement. That's why people go to jail now, and we have just seen the top of the iceberg.
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One wouldn't think so, but don't forget who you addressed this question to.If I gave you authorization to download my content for personal use, you may do so. But if you distribute it to others who have no authorization to copy it, it is infringement (even in Canada ). And if you additionally make profit off it, and transfer my income to you, then it is theft. That logic is not complicated to understand, is it?
Gideon would have us all believe that branding URL's on bugs asses is the way to go
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So downloading a song is automatically infringement or stealing? My ISP offer millions of songs to download for free personal use at their portal. It come along with my payments for internet connection. They have agreements with music industry and they pay royalties to the industry. I do not share it with others, so am I a pirate?Comment
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I am fairly certain you know I am referring to things like Kazaa and Limewire, which i do not use.
To justify using those services is justifying piracy.
As you said here
Thats exactly how metallica feels and exactly why they just sued that college kidIt is your actions with my content that matters and the damage you cause to me, that matter.
Im only playing devils advocate I dont care what you steal, fact is though these threads are always filled with ? infringers who point the finger at someone while doing similar.
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All other things aside though... do you want to live in a world where you can be thrown into PRISON for THEORETICALLY reducing someones potential income?Comment
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Aah, refreshing sarcasm.Oh, so the pirate actually STOLE PROPERTY... That's different, I assumed he just made COPIES available in some roundabout way.
I take that back, since you don't own the property any more... that sucks.
Now that he's arrested do you get your shit back or does the FBI keep your physical DVDs that were physically stolen from you?
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funny how i never once mentioned branding bugs torrent recorder or fair use in that postGuy uses other people's hard work to profit for himself....He goes to jail.
BWAAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hey gideongallery, stick that in your torrent recorder and smoke it! I told you what was coming, but you just love content theft so much you won't listen. BWAAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
i was only talking about morons calling copyright infringement theft when it was really a fraud.
but i guess that not hard to understand why you would have a problem understanding the difference since your idea of creativity is copying 15 year old waynes world movie example of product placement in porn.
oooh i did what someone else did in mainstream in a porn video, look i am brilliant.
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I feel that the "theoretical" part of your statement has pretty much been shown to be reality. Torrents and tubes exploded over the last 2 years and companies are flat out going out of business because of it. It's not theory. When you sell porn...it is your only product. When that product is taken and given to millions of people for free, then you just lost your income.
Millions, maybe billions of dollars in sales are now gone. That's not "theory". That's the situation that this business now faces. Not only initial sales...which hurts pretty bad, but the very lifeblood of the business: recurring sales.Last edited by Robbie; 08-12-2009, 03:48 PM.-Robbie
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Some are also hurt more than others, especially those smaller business companies. In the end, no one can enjoy that beautiful solo model doing hard work, or some software programmer who stop programming something useful. What pisses me most off, is that it is difficult, or impossible, for those smaller ones to stop it.Comment
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That's the best you got gideongallery? Sad.
And oh by the way...
You're little playhouse of everybody stealing is coming to an end. Just like I told you it would.
Good luck with that torrent marketing business that you haven't been able to get off the ground. I tried to warn you, but you're just too brilliant and smart to listen to people who actually make money online.Last edited by Robbie; 08-12-2009, 03:57 PM.-Robbie
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safe harbor was put in place to protect fair use rights
since fair use of parody has been extended to include simple changing the subtitle on a movie (and nothing else)
and the tube site getting the views and sending clicks to the dating sponsor can't be absolutely sure what is and what is not fair use. (is "check out my favorite milfhunter scene" considered commentary)
safe harbor is designed to protect that fair expression.
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Not all companies view fansubs as illegal, and companiees like Bandaii attribute fansubs to making them popular in the US and do not go after fansubs. Many companies encourage them...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub
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That's the best you got gideongallery? Sad.
And oh by the way...
You're little playhouse of everybody stealing is coming to an end. Just like I told you it would.
Good luck with that torrent marketing business that you haven't been able to get off the ground. I tried to warn you, but you're just too brilliant and smart to listen to people who actually make money online.Originally posted by robbie
unlike you robbie i don't have to misquote and slander you to show case your stupidityOriginally posted by Robbie
go back to copying wayne's world and claiming your creative for doing it.
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i don't have to waste my time writing hours of dialog to proving that point it has already been made for me
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download a couple of episodes some time.
you can clearly see the upper limits of parody.
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Is there a press release or news article link from the FBI or otherwise?
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I bought close to 800 dvd's in a country outside of the US for $4.00 a pop. Some have 3-4 movies on them. I bought them with the full support of the US GOVT. and on US GOVT controlled property. I had the last star wars movie 1 week before it was released.. So does that make the US GOVT a thief? And to get them out of that country they had to be inspected by a US GOVT official.....So WTF?
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gideon, shut the fuck up
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The gideongallery bible tells me that I am Canadian, and that my 'apparent' pirate activities 'can' actually be viewed as 'non-pirate' in nature. Its all made up for by the 'tax' on blank media that I don't buy...
wait... now I'm confused
r i pirate, or r i not pirate?
life as a canadian is confusing
.believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term
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fair use is definately a right in every country
the courts need to establish new fair use rights (access shifting) or accept the jurisdiction ruling of another country (like timeshifting) but the copyright defined conditions of fair use are recognized world wide.
parody is one of those fair uses which wa explictly defined by the act, so when the courts extended that right to include downfall parodies i showed you they in fact did extend it for every country that had fair use defined in the act (everyone who has copyright exclusive rights)
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http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-42/
I'm not canadian, but after reading what gideongallery said earlier about the "we pay tax - and can download everything" I checked your copyright act, and it is not like that at all. There are limits, just like here in Denmark. We introduced the same tax years ago, but it is not working at all, because it can't be administrated and mostly important; there are obligations to international agreements. In fact, piracy only got worse, and today the courts have ordered to block pirate sites, ISPs log traffic, anti-piracy groups are given full power to spy and act... and so on...Comment
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i never said "we pay tax- and can download everything" so your investigation started with the wrong premise.
there are conditions but in every case and every arguement i made (timeshifting tv shows, downloading music) those conditions were met.
anti-piracy groups have not been given "full power" to spy and act
so you are totally wrong again.
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So you ASSUME everyone is like that?
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