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from $24k/month to $14k/month: Goodbye paysites :-( Hello webcams :-)

08-07-2009, 09:57 AM

After 12 years of promoting paysites, and making great money, its time for a strategy change.

My income from promoting paysites has gone from an average of $24,000/month in 2007 down to $14,000/month last month.

It was a great run but the writing is on the wall... paysites are dead.

Yes, sales will still trickle in but you can no longer depend on paysites for steadily increasing income like you could before.

Goodbye paysites

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For the foreseeable future, every link I put up on my sites/blogs/projects will be for a webcam site.

If you are a webcam affiliate manager please post your ICQ# in this thread and add my ICQ #161550420.

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Also, if anyone has informative links/blogposts on how to promote webcams effectively please post them in this thread.

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08-07-2009, 10:01 AM

There's always something new that's selling better than your current model. It's what sells in the long run that matters.

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08-07-2009, 10:01 AM

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08-07-2009, 10:11 AM

$14k a month is great, but not as good as your previous numbers. I can see why you think it's dead. Still a great profit though.

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08-07-2009, 10:15 AM

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08-07-2009, 10:21 AM

You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint

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08-07-2009, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by TheSenator

BIG BUCKS NOW has been helping me out.

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08-07-2009, 10:25 AM

Have you tried promoting any mobile stuff yet? I'm sure that this would make you some $. Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk about this and see what we can do. It sucks that your sales have dropped like that, but I'm sure that your site(s) get some mobile traffic that can help increase your earnings. I can easily have a mobile whitelabel created for you and all you would have to do is use our mobile redirect script to redirect any mobile traffic that you may get to your whitelabel. Just a thought. Not trying to spam your thread. This may not be cams, but it's a great money maker.

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08-07-2009, 10:26 AM

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08-07-2009, 10:27 AM

great to see someone is evolving instead of bitching about slow sales

nice work, I give you a for using your brain!

good luck on the webcams, hope you can get back up to $24k/mo quickly.

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08-07-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by johnuk

You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint

Hi John, I agree there is still money to be made with paysites, its just that as an affiliate, the paysite model is on the decline overall.

I want to put my business in front of a wave rather than trying to surf a dying one.

BTW, http://www.punkgrl.com looks good... I'll add it to some of my databases and see what happens.

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08-07-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by PornHero

Thanks Senator,

I just signed up for Big Bucks Now using your linkcode

Cool....Here is my ICQ #61661595...

I got a sweet domain and developing it with a lot of webcam stuff.

Maybe we can exchange links.

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08-07-2009, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Yngwie

Have you tried promoting any mobile stuff yet? I'm sure that this would make you some $. Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk about this and see what we can do. It sucks that your sales have dropped like that, but I'm sure that your site(s) get some mobile traffic that can help increase your earnings. I can easily have a mobile whitelabel created for you and all you would have to do is use our mobile redirect script to redirect any mobile traffic that you may get to your whitelabel. Just a thought. Not trying to spam your thread. This may not be cams, but it's a great money maker.

Just wanted to throw out another way to earn some $ since our mobile sites convert and retain great. Anyway, hit me up on ICQ when you get the chance.

Hi Yngwie,

Topbucks has been great to me over the years. Kristin from Topbucks got me setup with the Topbucks mobile product just yesterday. We'll see how it does with my traffic in the next little while. I'll add u to my ICQ right now

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08-07-2009, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by bossku69

great to see someone is evolving instead of bitching about slow sales

nice work, I give you a for using your brain!

good luck on the webcams, hope you can get back up to $24k/mo quickly.

thanks Boss -- i figure webcams is the natural progression -- I was going to promote dating sites too but I don't want to be sending people to sites full of fake profiles. At least with webcams they get some value for their money.

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08-07-2009, 11:06 AM

Not everyone would describe $14K a month as 'sales trickling in'.
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08-07-2009, 11:27 AM

Originally posted by PornHero

Hi Yngwie,

Topbucks has been great to me over the years. Kristin from Topbucks got me setup with the Topbucks mobile product just yesterday. We'll see how it does with my traffic in the next little while. I'll add u to my ICQ right now

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08-07-2009, 11:28 AM

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08-07-2009, 11:30 AM

cams aren't THAT much better...

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08-07-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by johnuk

You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint

Cant say that. You don't know how much his expenses are. That could be a huge hit

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08-07-2009, 11:37 AM

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08-07-2009, 11:49 AM

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08-07-2009, 11:51 AM

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08-07-2009, 12:29 PM

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If you have Asian niche traffic. Feel free to send your traffic to our camsites.

We have a PPC + 35% Revshare campaign running. Check it out.. info in my siggy

Nice, I will join your DTIcash and see how you do on my asian blogs - but you should really fix the big "Sigin Up" graphic on the sign up page: http://www.dticash.com/signup.html

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08-07-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Lace

Cant say that. You don't know how much his expenses are. That could be a huge hit

My expenses have been steady at about $1000/month for servers and domain names the last few years.

Losing $10k/month in income sucks no matter what but I take it in stride.

What goes up must come down. Easy come easy go. I just thank goodness I saved a shitload of cash & didnt just blow it all.

I remember popping the champagne when I hit $3k/month back in 2003 so i am still grateful as hell for this business

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08-07-2009, 12:38 PM

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08-07-2009, 12:45 PM

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08-07-2009, 12:50 PM

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Nice, I will join your DTIcash and see how you do on my asian blogs - but you should really fix the big "Sigin Up" graphic on the sign up page: http://www.dticash.com/signup.html

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08-07-2009, 01:26 PM

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08-07-2009, 01:33 PM

yeap.. content sites have really taken a dive... time to re-think the entire business model.....

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08-07-2009, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by qxm

yeap.. content sites have really taken a dive... time to re-think the entire business model.....

I agree... webcam sites have a clear advantage right now. Porn videos are everywhere. No need for a credit card.

I am going to dive into the webcam business with both guns blazing.

Hell in the past I've dropped serious cash on hookers and hoes for that live experience you just cant get watching a recorded video. So I can relate to the craving for the live experience you get when watching live cams.

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08-07-2009, 02:49 PM

PornHero have you tried dating? Lets talk
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08-07-2009, 02:52 PM

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08-07-2009, 02:52 PM

im not jumping ship just yet, i'm just diversifying my niches at this point. reason is, my webcams conversions are worst than paysite ones.
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08-07-2009, 03:39 PM

I agree that webcams tend to have great payouts, but I also have had a harder time getting conversions.

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08-07-2009, 04:08 PM

im not jumping ship just yet, i'm just diversifying my niches at this point. reason is, my webcams conversions are worst than paysite ones.

Originally posted by videodoll

I agree that webcams tend to have great payouts, but I also have had a harder time getting conversions.

I have had some mild success with webcams in the past. But I havent given them my 100% undivided attention for months at a time like I gave to paysites.

The choice is clear for me -- I want to be in a business with a product that is hard to get and satisfies a need.

Webcams still have life and lots of opportunities to grow income... paysites not so much.

Live porn is where the future is going:

- You can watch a cute college girl finger herself and tell her to lick her finger afterwards and she does whatever you say.

- Having a sexy girl watch you masturbate on YOUR webcam and tell you what she thinks as u blow ur load.

- Watching a couple fuck on camera and you command what they do next. Fuck her ass, give him a deepthroat blow job, fishhook her while giving it to her doggystyle etc etc...

Live porn is the next BIG thing.

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08-07-2009, 04:19 PM

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08-07-2009, 04:34 PM

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08-07-2009, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by Mickey-AWE

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08-07-2009, 04:55 PM

Hi PornHero,

Thanks again for a good business thread and for being frank about your numbers. It is a help and makes us all think a bit more.

I came to same conclusion about cams - meaning something real the surfer can get that can't be replaced or stolen (content). Thing is ... I can't convert them. Hopefully you'll have better luck.
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08-07-2009, 05:13 PM

Well, how about a little bit of both paysite & cam shows, I have/do them both on my site. :-) I have been online over 10 years now and am just finally putting together my affiliate program. (Better late than never I guess - lol) I should have it 100% up and running in 1 week. Mandy

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08-07-2009, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by mopek1

Hi PornHero,

Thanks again for a good business thread and for being frank about your numbers. It is a help and makes us all think a bit more.

I came to same conclusion about cams - meaning something real the surfer can get that can't be replaced or stolen (content). Thing is ... I can't convert them. Hopefully you'll have better luck.

Im glad I could help you out in a small way.

Conversions are in the mind of the converter

In order to excel in any business you have to become an expert in your chosen niche

Right now I am an expert in sending search engine traffic to paysites. I will one day be an expert in sending search engine traffic to webcams.

I am going to learn the ins-and-outs of the webcams business, the sites, the terminology, the business patterns, the webcam girls... I am going to immerse myself in it.

Thats the only way to excel in anything.

As far as conversions -- it takes getting traffic consisting of people who are already looking for webcams in the first place. I much prefer to deal with people who are already interested in webcams rather than trying to convince a surfer who was looking for something else.

Like the old saying goes: Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way you are right.

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08-07-2009, 05:48 PM

paysites died last year.. and now webcams are dead cause everyone is promoting them.

I am in the same boat as you except 1 year ahead.
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08-07-2009, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by PornHero

After 12 years of promoting paysites, and making great money, its time for a strategy change.

My income from promoting paysites has gone from an average of $24,000/month in 2007 down to $14,000/month last month.

It was a great run but the writing is on the wall... paysites are dead.

Yes, sales will still trickle in but you can no longer depend on paysites for steadily increasing income like you could before.

Goodbye paysites

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Hello webcams

For the foreseeable future, every link I put up on my sites/blogs/projects will be for a webcam site.

If you are a webcam affiliate manager please post your ICQ# in this thread and add my ICQ #161550420.

Lets get to know each other

Also, if anyone has informative links/blogposts on how to promote webcams effectively please post them in this thread.

thx

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08-07-2009, 06:02 PM

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08-07-2009, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Fucksakes

paysites died last year.. and now webcams are dead cause everyone is promoting them.

I am in the same boat as you except 1 year ahead.

Everyone was promoting paysites the last 12 years and I still did well.

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08-07-2009, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by PornHero

Everyone was promoting paysites the last 12 years and I still did well.

10-12 years ago we could count the number of webmasters, nowadays its just retarded.. on top of that we got the largest tube sites pushing webcams and datings.. on top of the thousands of smaller ones doing popunders etc.

anyways.. only letting ya know from my experience.
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08-07-2009, 06:34 PM

You're doing a hell of a lot better than me...

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08-07-2009, 06:47 PM

14k a month is good unless of course your losing 10 k a month
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08-07-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Fucksakes

10-12 years ago we could count the number of webmasters, nowadays its just retarded.. on top of that we got the largest tube sites pushing webcams and datings.. on top of the thousands of smaller ones doing popunders etc.

anyways.. only letting ya know from my experience.

Thanks Fucksakes ... so where do you see the sex business on the internet going? It would be interesting to hear what you think

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08-07-2009, 09:22 PM

cam sites not dead. Paying my car note lol
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