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08-06-2009, 08:02 AM

It's great to see Ibill arriving at Internext in style, those fucking limos must have cost a fortune to have them painted with their snazzy new logos and the girls they have escorting them in are better than any of the stripper types I've seen in Florida but the guys were a bit overdressed for the weather with their suits and leathers.

Anyway, it was nice of them to make an entrance and then throw on a pre-show spread, it's the first time I've had imported caviar since the ban was lifted and the vodka was pretty wicked also.

Thanks guys, I hope you can live up to this through the rest of the show as I'm sure your going to get a load of new customers and old ones returning.
Thanks for the swag bag also - there's a limit of 200 of these folks so find an Ibill rep fast - I don't mind a new watch being branded with their logo!

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08-06-2009, 08:03 AM

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08-06-2009, 08:04 AM

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08-06-2009, 08:04 AM

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08-06-2009, 08:12 AM

Wonder if they are passing out those Kcards too....

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08-06-2009, 09:57 AM

I got ripped of pretty seriously when Ibill had their issues in the past. But I was completely blown away by their hospitality suite today. We had some candid and frank discussion and they are winning me over with their genuine and earnest attempts to re-introduce themselves to the adult industry.

And yeah the gift bag was really generous, so track these guys down fast.

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08-06-2009, 10:02 AM

is rodrigo there?

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08-06-2009, 10:04 AM

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08-06-2009, 10:10 AM

LOL this thread is too commical. Typical of this industry how people fall for fluff, bling, and bullshit prizes... sounds like they are trying to take the typical " he bought me drinks he must be a good guy" logic to a whole new level.

Frank discussions, gift bags, caviar, good vodka... hell makes me almost forget about the 30K+ they screwed out of me.... not.

I don't care if it is new owners, new old owners, or whatever. If you want to use the name "ibill", then pay the debts associated with it. A lot of the old ibill higher ups were smart, they jumped ship and started a new company and no one is the wiser. Trying to do anything with that name is a bad idea.

What would go a longer way, instead of all the money spent on limos, bimbos, booze, and crap, etc.. why not pay some people back what they are owed. What do you think would make a bigger impact... repaying people or trying to be a big player and giving them crap.... wait this is the adult industry, i guess they knew the answer to that question and proceeded accordingly.

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08-06-2009, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by will76

LOL this thread is too commical. Typical of this industry how people fall for fluff, bling, and bullshit prizes... sounds like they are trying to take the typical " he bought me drinks he must be a good guy" logic to a whole new level.

Frank discussions, gift bags, caviar, good vodka... hell makes me almost forget about the 30K+ they screwed out of me.... not.

I don't care if it is new owners, new old owners, or whatever. If you want to use the name "ibill", then pay the debts associated with it. A lot of the old ibill higher ups were smart, they jumped ship and started a new company and no one is the wiser. Trying to do anything with that name is a bad idea.

What would go a longer way, instead of all the money spent on limos, bimbos, booze, and crap, etc.. why not pay some people back what they are owed. What do you think would make a bigger impact... repaying people or trying to be a big player and giving them crap.... wait this is the adult industry, i guess they knew the answer to that question and proceeded accordingly.

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08-06-2009, 10:20 AM

It's amazing a few drinks, some
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08-06-2009, 10:24 AM

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It's amazing a few drinks, some
bags of bullshit and they are bros again this industry really deserves everything it gets.

Exactly! Board sentiment does not translate to face to face real life. There's just something very emboldening about a keyboard.
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08-06-2009, 10:27 AM

it was Miami 2004 (or 2005?) where they had the huge boat party that eveyone was bragging about to be invited. shortly after they went tits up

i rather stick to those that keep low key

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08-06-2009, 10:37 AM

I wonder if anyone will have the balls to confront them?

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08-06-2009, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by BobG

Exactly! Board sentiment does not translate to face to face real life. There's just something very emboldening about a keyboard.

Shit.... when I saw them at Internext in 2006 I asked them flat to their faces if they were going to be handing out checks to the people they owed money to... they got a real fucked up look on their faces and asked me to leave. It's a good thing they didn't owe me money personally... I would have hated to see the inside of the jail in Vegas...

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08-06-2009, 10:40 AM

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08-06-2009, 10:40 AM

so no one has a lawsuit against them yet?

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08-06-2009, 10:45 AM

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08-06-2009, 10:47 AM

Sounds good - and if they run out of I-Bill gifts I'm sure the children will make more before the show ends

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08-06-2009, 10:48 AM

companies that swoop in and make a big splash at shows usually go belly-up by the next show.
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08-06-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by MaDalton

it was Miami 2004 (or 2005?) where they had the huge boat party that eveyone was bragging about to be invited. shortly after they went tits up

ya, but that was a cool boat ride and i got to hang out with some cool folks.

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08-06-2009, 10:54 AM

lol....

i still dont believe the whole "we're not them - we just took the name" angle. and if it is true, i wouldnt trust my money with a company willing to do something so foolish

by the way - i'm going mainstream into the business of energy. gonna call it Enron. who wants to invest?

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08-06-2009, 10:57 AM

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08-06-2009, 10:59 AM

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08-06-2009, 11:07 AM

How can someone trust a company that fucked so many of us back then. They had a smile on their faces when they fucked us over and they still have that same smile ready to fuck us again. Anyone who got screwed by them before must have rocks in their head if they give them another try. Why don't they just pay us what they owe. So many of us nearly went out of busines back then, they did not give a shit then and they still don't give a shit today.

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08-06-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

I got ripped of pretty seriously when Ibill had their issues in the past. But I was completely blown away by their hospitality suite today. We had some candid and frank discussion and they are winning me over with their genuine and earnest attempts to re-introduce themselves to the adult industry.

You're kidding, right?

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08-06-2009, 11:11 AM

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08-06-2009, 11:11 AM

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08-06-2009, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

I got ripped of pretty seriously when Ibill had their issues in the past. But I was completely blown away by their hospitality suite today. We had some candid and frank discussion and they are winning me over with their genuine and earnest attempts to re-introduce themselves to the adult industry.

And yeah the gift bag was really generous, so track these guys down fast.

Seriously, their company did a complete 360, then a 180 on top of it! They are flying me in tomorrow morning with their jet to meet with them, can't believe how great they are being now.

They offered me private use of one of their jets pretty much anytime if I give them the shot of bringing my business back to them. I'll seriously consider it depending on what kind of champagne they have on the jet tomorrow

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08-06-2009, 11:58 AM

Pics or I call BS...either way it's BS.

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08-06-2009, 02:29 PM

Fuck I just came downstairs after taking a nap ... and there are a shit load of police questioning everyone. There is a Russian caviar vendor demanding that everyone who ate the caviar pay up and the hotel has tagged $500 on to everyone's hotel bill who got a swag bag.
The Ibill guys are no where to be seen!

WTF!!!!

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08-06-2009, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by seanchai

Fuck I just came downstairs after taking a nap ... and there are a shit load of police questioning everyone. There is a Russian caviar vendor demanding that everyone who ate the caviar pay up and the hotel has tagged $500 on to everyone's hotel bill who got a swag bag.
The Ibill guys are no where to be seen!

WTF!!!!

lol what?? I must be high or something and not even know it.

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08-06-2009, 02:46 PM

I suspect you guys are falling hook, line and sinker for an obvious gag thread.

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08-06-2009, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by will76

LOL this thread is too commical. Typical of this industry how people fall for fluff, bling, and bullshit prizes... sounds like they are trying to take the typical " he bought me drinks he must be a good guy" logic to a whole new level.

Frank discussions, gift bags, caviar, good vodka... hell makes me almost forget about the 30K+ they screwed out of me.... not.

I don't care if it is new owners, new old owners, or whatever. If you want to use the name "ibill", then pay the debts associated with it. A lot of the old ibill higher ups were smart, they jumped ship and started a new company and no one is the wiser. Trying to do anything with that name is a bad idea.

What would go a longer way, instead of all the money spent on limos, bimbos, booze, and crap, etc.. why not pay some people back what they are owed. What do you think would make a bigger impact... repaying people or trying to be a big player and giving them crap.... wait this is the adult industry, i guess they knew the answer to that question and proceeded accordingly.

Thanks for putting this right in front of their face, Will. It seems so many forget the BS thieving this company did to allot of people.
I would like my money, but will never see a dime of it. All I can do is keep telling people about this worthless company and reminding them of the past.

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08-06-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally posted by will76

What would go a longer way, instead of all the money spent on limos, bimbos, booze, and crap, etc.. why not pay some people back what they are owed. What do you think would make a bigger impact...

From your perspective, makes sense... from theirs.. it doesn't... they probably can't finance paying everyone back so throwing around loot like it's the 1990's is a cheaper route.

Of course, there is the obvious of why they continue to use the name... that's beyond me.

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08-06-2009, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

I got ripped of pretty seriously when Ibill had their issues in the past. But I was completely blown away by their hospitality suite today. We had some candid and frank discussion and they are winning me over with their genuine and earnest attempts to re-introduce themselves to the adult industry.

And yeah the gift bag was really generous, so track these guys down fast.
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08-06-2009, 04:31 PM

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For Newbies THE HISTORY OF IBILL short version
Years ago a processing company called Ibill swindled web-masters and affiliates out of more than 33 million $ of their hard earned money.

They knew First Data was closing their merchant account six months before it was closed, yet did nothing to get a new one. They left it too late and tried legal action to make First Date give them more time. They lost that action and webmasters lost millions, their homes their families their lives. The 33 million was never paid back to web-masters or their affiliates

Now a ex IBILL employee Jonas Brown, Director of Business Development of the old IBILL has started up IBILL again. To gain your trust he is doing exactly what the old Ibill did, "Send us a copy of your worthless promissory note and we will exchange it for stock in iBill at 1.00 per share. This is just our way of trying to make something out of nothing. We will be sending out the PPM on Sept 1, 09 as well as the certificates. Why not, it is free?"
Why exchange one useless piece of paper for another ?

In one of his post on GFY he stated he would answer any questions, to this date he has not responded to one on GFY

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08-06-2009, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by baddog

I suspect you guys are falling hook, line and sinker for an obvious gag thread.

JMHO

How is it obvious, do you think it is not possible that ibill would do something like this. I think it is very possible. I also think it is possible that people in this industry would fall for it. Not the gag, but for the free shit and then send them business again.

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08-06-2009, 07:12 PM

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08-06-2009, 07:20 PM

Fuck iBill, they owe us 100k.

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08-06-2009, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by MaDalton

i rather stick to those that keep low key

Quoted because the man knows how business REALLY works!

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08-06-2009, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy

Now a ex IBILL employee Jonas Brown, Director of Business Development of the old IBILL has started up IBILL again.

That is the one thing that was always a question mark for me. I cannot imagine someone at the director level of a corporation not knowing that shit is about to hit the fan.

IMHO, there is no real way to get around that. If he *didn't* know, then I'd question how someone at that level in a corporation didn't make it their business. Why were they kept out of the loop? The CEO's down to department directors usually have the inside scoop. Those that are lower can easily be left out of the loop.

Then, if he *did* know, and developed any new business during that time between first notice and them going belly up, without disclosing it...then...well, you can draw your own conclusions.
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08-06-2009, 07:48 PM

It's Thursday night and I am posting from my Iphone. The Ibill hospitality suite is rocking, they have the whole thing done in a Bangkok bar theme with pole dancers and the whole spread. If you are at Internext get your asses up here now! These are the only exhibitors I have come across who are really interested in pulling out the stops to make potential clients welcome, and ready to party like it is 1999 again.

So many small minded haterz in this thread. Don't hate the playa hate the game.

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08-06-2009, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by Shoplifter

It's Thursday night and I am posting from my Iphone. The Ibill hospitality suite is rocking, they have the whole thing done in a Bangkok bar theme with pole dancers and the whole spread. If you are at Internext get your asses up here now! These are the only exhibitors I have come across who are really interested in pulling out the stops to make potential clients welcome, and ready to party like it is 1999 again.

So many small minded haterz in this thread. Don't hate the playa hate the game.

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08-06-2009, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by will76

How is it obvious, do you think it is not possible that ibill would do something like this. I think it is very possible. I also think it is possible that people in this industry would fall for it. Not the gag, but for the free shit and then send them business again.

Because I have read every post and seems bullshit is oozing.
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08-07-2009, 01:14 AM

Obviously the ones who are giving them a chance were not fucked by them last time round like so many of us OR they are either new and won't heed good advice by thinking it was blown out of proportion - Good luck to them, when they get burnt so many will say "We Tried To Warn You"

Why go with a company that stole from so many and smiled about it when they ran out the back door....why not go with the companies that have proved their worth - Epoch or CCBill they are solid.

Wonder how much of our money from back then has been used to finance and set up this new iBill, sounds like some of it is also being used to throw this major party and fly people round in their fucking jet......giving out swag and shit....does this not look familiar......did they not do this just before they fucked up last time....Fucking Thieves, if they were the last processor on the face of the earth I would never use them again, I would rather use the Mail, it's probably safer - And yet there are those who are giving them a second try even after they themselves got robbed last time, not sure what to say there.

We nearly lost everything last time with them....No way would I give them another chance so that they can fuking take it all again.....

Thanks to Frank Gannon and Epoch who came and saved the day by setting up our processing within a couple of days, they will always be our first processor for all of our sites.

I know for a fact that I would never use an affiliate program that uses iBill and I am sure that is the same way many others feel......

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08-07-2009, 01:49 AM

Steven, I was about to say WTF!!!!!! Nice one!
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08-07-2009, 04:32 AM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Steven, I was about to say WTF!!!!!! Nice one!
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08-07-2009, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by baddog

Because I have read every post and seems bullshit is oozing.

Very few others I would trust the word of in this industry - hope you're having a great time ol' friend "keep on rockin in the free world"

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08-07-2009, 06:10 AM

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