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  • Grapesoda
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    • Jul 2003
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    #1

    tesla question

    wtf does this mean?

    Acceleration
    3.1s 0-60 mph*
    *with rollout subtracted

    https://www.tesla.com/model3
  • SBJ
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    • Apr 2003
    • 11377

    #2
    google is your friend

    approximated by subtracting the first foot of an acceleration run. Now a common substitute is to cut the first 3 mph from a run, cutting as much as 0.3 seconds off the time. Some publications post a 0-60 mph with rollout and others do not.

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    • fastball
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      • Apr 2021
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      #3
      Its about a foot from the actual start. It is a drag racing deal.

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      • Grapesoda
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        • Jul 2003
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        #4
        Originally posted by fastball
        Its about a foot from the actual start. It is a drag racing deal.
        my caddy is 3.8, no rollout

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        • Grapesoda
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          • Jul 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by SBJ
          google is your friend

          approximated by subtracting the first foot of an acceleration run. Now a common substitute is to cut the first 3 mph from a run, cutting as much as 0.3 seconds off the time. Some publications post a 0-60 mph with rollout and others do not.
          it means Tesla is cheating their stats.

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          • fuzebox
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            • Oct 2003
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            #6
            Car & Driver and Road & Track have switched to measuring 5-60 times. 0-60 is almost meaningless in the real world and is more reliant on a destructive launch, which is not indicative of real-world acceleration.

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            • Grapesoda
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              #7
              Originally posted by fuzebox
              Car & Driver and Road & Track have switched to measuring 5-60 times. 0-60 is almost meaningless in the real world and is more reliant on a destructive launch, which is not indicative of real-world acceleration.
              nice to know

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              • SBJ
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                • Apr 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by fuzebox
                Car & Driver and Road & Track have switched to measuring 5-60 times. 0-60 is almost meaningless in the real world and is more reliant on a destructive launch, which is not indicative of real-world acceleration.
                That makes sense because if you do a 0-60 on public roads and a cop is around you will get pulled over for an "unsafe start" if your tires chirp but 5-60 wouldn't get you pulled over

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                • fastball
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                  • Apr 2021
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SBJ
                  That makes sense because if you do a 0-60 on public roads and a cop is around you will get pulled over for an "unsafe start" if your tires chirp but 5-60 wouldn't get you pulled over
                  A couple of things. I own a Tesla, and Charlie don't surf and Teslas don't "chirp". The real stat that is important is the 0-30 mph (50kmh) because that is what you need at a traffic light.
                  And as far as these stats go, they mean jack till you drive a Tesla. Especially in ludicrous mode. It will scare the shit out you the first time. You can smoke all your Lambos, Hellcats, Cobras etc. if you really want to.

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                  • Grapesoda
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                    • Jul 2003
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by fastball
                    A couple of things. I own a Tesla, and Charlie don't surf and Teslas don't "chirp". The real stat that is important is the 0-30 mph (50kmh) because that is what you need at a traffic light.
                    And as far as these stats go, they mean jack till you drive a Tesla. Especially in ludicrous mode. It will scare the shit out you the first time. You can smoke all your Lambos, Hellcats, Cobras etc. if you really want to.
                    does the car track straight under that quick acceleration? the car I drive is quick however I seldom use the power except on the freeway to avoid issues. I'm really curious about the hellcat. love to drive one... thing is from me is awd. only issue I have with doge/Chrysler cars.

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                    • fastball
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Grapesoda
                      does the car track straight under that quick acceleration? the car I drive is quick however I seldom use the power except on the freeway to avoid issues. I'm really curious about the hellcat. love to drive one... thing is from me is awd. only issue I have with doge/Chrysler cars.
                      No matter what you do, you cannot make it wobble. I hit it really hard in a left turn in 2 feet of snow in Whistler this year and it turned perfectly. I have the rear wheel drive model 3 but it handled better in snow way better than my AWD Grand Cherokee. The car is fucking amazing. And I have owned a couple of E Types, Corvettes etc.
                      However, you have to understand you are driving a computer on four wheels. So it needs to be rebooted a lot.
                      But you hit the freeway in Autopilot and the freeking car drives itself. All you have to do is touch the steering wheel every minute or so for proof of life. But it is fast, capable and quiet.
                      And it has dog mode, so I can leave my dog in a locked climate controlled car.
                      And, if it interests you, it has fart mode. Fun and games.

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                      • Applebite Media
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by fastball
                        A couple of things. I own a Tesla, and Charlie don't surf and Teslas don't "chirp". The real stat that is important is the 0-30 mph (50kmh) because that is what you need at a traffic light.
                        And as far as these stats go, they mean jack till you drive a Tesla. Especially in ludicrous mode. It will scare the shit out you the first time. You can smoke all your Lambos, Hellcats, Cobras etc. if you really want to.
                        How is it finding charging stations? I have seen one in the city here in Minneapolis, its in one of the downtown hotels. Have you ever traveled distances and had issues finding charging stations?

                        Have you had any issues with your battery getting too hot? There was a news story on this a while ago where batteries were igniting from overheating. Reminded me of when the cell phones were doing that.

                        I find the electric cars fascinating, but not sure I am ready to make the switch. Even on a hybrid.
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                        • fastball
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Applebite Media
                          How is it finding charging stations? I have seen one in the city here in Minneapolis, its in one of the downtown hotels. Have you ever traveled distances and had issues finding charging stations?

                          Have you had any issues with your battery getting too hot? There was a news story on this a while ago where batteries were igniting from overheating. Reminded me of when the cell phones were doing that.

                          I find the electric cars fascinating, but not sure I am ready to make the switch. Even on a hybrid.
                          Due to the quarantine, I haven't driven that far. The range of the car is 350 miles (525 km) and I charge it in my garage. I have two electric cars. Never had a hot battery issue. Unless you are going way out of range, charging is fast and easy and plentiful.
                          There are a lot of Tesla superchargers and there is a whole infrastructure of electric chargers growing by the day.
                          If you google roadside charging, you will see it if is worth having an electric car where you live. If you charge at home, it feels kinda free. But no more Mr. Lube, Transmission, Muffler, Brakes etc. You save a shit pot in maintenance and down time.
                          My other car is a Fiat 500e for grocery getter and going downtown etc.
                          It is a good time to go electric.
                          BTW, as an example, you can drive from from Seattle to Los Angeles stopping 7 times to charge. Mostly twenty to thirty minute stops

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                          • Grapesoda
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by fastball
                            Due to the quarantine, I haven't driven that far. The range of the car is 350 miles (525 km) and I charge it in my garage. I have two electric cars. Never had a hot battery issue. Unless you are going way out of range, charging is fast and easy and plentiful.
                            There are a lot of Tesla superchargers and there is a whole infrastructure of electric chargers growing by the day.
                            If you google roadside charging, you will see it if is worth having an electric car where you live. If you charge at home, it feels kinda free. But no more Mr. Lube, Transmission, Muffler, Brakes etc. You save a shit pot in maintenance and down time.
                            My other car is a Fiat 500e for grocery getter and going downtown etc.
                            It is a good time to go electric.
                            BTW, as an example, you can drive from from Seattle to Los Angeles stopping 7 times to charge. Mostly twenty to thirty minute stops
                            ive been told a tesla compares to a bottom level BMW 6 series as far as luxury goes. not interested in anything like that at all. I'll go electric and out 4 years...when the options are better

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                            • fastball
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                              ive been told a tesla compares to a bottom level BMW 6 series as far as luxury goes. not interested in anything like that at all. I'll go electric and out 4 years...when the options are better
                              Teslas are minimalist but comfortable. 4 years is not a bad timeline, but watch what is about to hit the market later this year. Uber luxurious pick ups that can tow large amounts and, of course, the new Hummer and Tesla pick up. VW is whispering about a VW Microbus electric revival and at the high end, Tesla roadster with be the king of the heap. The fastest and coolest car on the planet.

                              edit: The Tesla roadster with the rocket thruster option is 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.

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                              • Roald
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                                #16
                                Really liking the specs on Teslas... too bad they are so damn ugly.


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                                • MaDalton
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                                  #17
                                  my ride is electric, very spacious, has AC and is super cheap

                                  bonus: it sometimes looks like a crocodile



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                                  • fastball
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Roald
                                    Really liking the specs on Teslas... too bad they are so damn ugly.
                                    drive it. don't spec it.

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                                    • SRProductions
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                                      • Dec 2019
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                                      #19
                                      those things kick my butt when I drive..

                                      edit to add: i know they accelerate almost effortlessly and I know because I have been by one at the stop light and it puts that consensual pickup automobile that i have consensual sex with pornstars in sometimes... to absolute dirt... i am used to drivin. it's space shuttle and I think Musk is a great genius..

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                                      • SRProductions
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by SRProductions
                                        those things kick my butt when I drive..

                                        edit to add: i know they accelerate almost effortlessly and I know because I have been by one at the stop light and it puts that consensual pickup automobile that i have consensual sex with pornstars in sometimes... to absolute dirt... i am used to drivin. it's space shuttle and I think Musk is a great genius..
                                        I will not be getting a tesla, if anything I want a hard raw sex flying car...

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                                        • SRProductions
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                                          • Dec 2019
                                          • 960

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by SRProductions
                                          I will not be getting a tesla, if anything I want a hard raw sex flying car...
                                          i'm totally cool with no car hell I had to survive without one... if it's manual or a car I can use myself without self driving, I am cool. a bed, shelter, some room to fuck or make homemade fucking im kidding. I prefer porn sets..

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                                          • Applebite Media
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by fastball
                                            Due to the quarantine, I haven't driven that far. The range of the car is 350 miles (525 km) and I charge it in my garage. I have two electric cars. Never had a hot battery issue. Unless you are going way out of range, charging is fast and easy and plentiful.
                                            There are a lot of Tesla superchargers and there is a whole infrastructure of electric chargers growing by the day.
                                            If you google roadside charging, you will see it if is worth having an electric car where you live. If you charge at home, it feels kinda free. But no more Mr. Lube, Transmission, Muffler, Brakes etc. You save a shit pot in maintenance and down time.
                                            My other car is a Fiat 500e for grocery getter and going downtown etc.
                                            It is a good time to go electric.
                                            BTW, as an example, you can drive from from Seattle to Los Angeles stopping 7 times to charge. Mostly twenty to thirty minute stops
                                            That is interesting, thank you!

                                            One more question... you mention brakes above, the car does not have brakes? How does it stop?

                                            I cannot believe how quiet they are, that has to be hard to get use to driving... is there any change in sound when accelerating? I think the one thing I would miss is the rumble of the muffler.... the roar of the engine... it's the teenage gear head in me
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                                            • Alex BongaCash
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                                              #23
                                              First time I tried driving Tesla was a big surprise for me... So quiet and fast at the same time
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                                              • fastball
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                That is interesting, thank you!

                                                One more question... you mention brakes above, the car does not have brakes? How does it stop?

                                                I cannot believe how quiet they are, that has to be hard to get use to driving... is there any change in sound when accelerating? I think the one thing I would miss is the rumble of the muffler.... the roar of the engine... it's the teenage gear head in me
                                                You get to dislike that engine sound after awhile. This from a guy who had a Corvette with lake pipes.

                                                As for the brakes, it is called one foot driving. As you let off the "gas" pedal, the regenerative braking kicks in and you glide to a stop where the car just holds. Think of it like downshifting to a complete stop. If you need the brakes, they are still there, but you hardly ever use them. So they last forever.

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                                                • Markul
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by fastball
                                                  You get to dislike that engine sound after awhile. This from a guy who had a Corvette with lake pipes.

                                                  As for the brakes, it is called one foot driving. As you let off the "gas" pedal, the regenerative braking kicks in and you glide to a stop where the car just holds. Think of it like downshifting to a complete stop. If you need the brakes, they are still there, but you hardly ever use them. So they last forever.
                                                  It's amazing how fast you get used to one pedal driving
                                                  But.... I pulled out...

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                                                  • Grapesoda
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                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 46234

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by fastball
                                                    Teslas are minimalist but comfortable. 4 years is not a bad timeline, but watch what is about to hit the market later this year. Uber luxurious pick ups that can tow large amounts and, of course, the new Hummer and Tesla pick up. VW is whispering about a VW Microbus electric revival and at the high end, Tesla roadster with be the king of the heap. The fastest and coolest car on the planet.

                                                    edit: The Tesla roadster with the rocket thruster option is 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
                                                    yeah I've been watching the EV market... very nice stuff coming out... I just invested in a twin turbo v8. 3.8, 0 to 60. the people that try for the 2 sec 5-60. better hang the fuck on

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                                                    • Grapesoda
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                                                      • Jul 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by SBJ
                                                      google is your friend

                                                      .
                                                      not so much anymore and getting worse

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                                                      • Grapesoda
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                                                        • Jul 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Markul
                                                        It's amazing how fast you get used to one pedal driving
                                                        so if some guy cuts you off, you YANK your damn foot off the go pedal as FAST as possible, for a sudden stop????

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                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by fastball
                                                          Its about a foot from the actual start. It is a drag racing deal.
                                                          FYI, never seen that in a drag race, ever.

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                                                          • Grapesoda
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by SBJ
                                                            That makes sense because if you do a 0-60 on public roads and a cop is around you will get pulled over for an "unsafe start" if your tires chirp but 5-60 wouldn't get you pulled over
                                                            here is the secret place to do stuff like that: freeway on ramps, on the feeder freeways in semi rural areas. I would take the on ramp at Osborne and the 118 going west. cars on the freeway can't see what you're doing....


                                                            I was driving a V with 6.2 and a blower... fuck! what a hoot that was... anyway I would hold the peddle to the floor and the car would chirp going into EVERY gear... and by the time you get on the freeway, slow down a touch and merge right in...I've merged on the freeway like this right by cops...

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                                                            • Markul
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                              so if some guy cuts you off, you YANK your damn foot off the go pedal as FAST as possible, for a sudden stop????
                                                              The car would probably break for me or I can just hit the actual brakes that are there ;) You just don't use them that much.
                                                              But.... I pulled out...

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                                                              • fastball
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                so if some guy cuts you off, you YANK your damn foot off the go pedal as FAST as possible, for a sudden stop????
                                                                No, you hit the brake pedal.

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                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Markul
                                                                  The car would probably break for me or I can just hit the actual brakes that are there ;) You just don't use them that much.
                                                                  yeah my car keeps a safe follow distance with a stop if I persist. mostly I drive around on torque. don't want to accelerate any faster than I do now.... my first v with the 6.2 and blower would immediately start to slow if I took my foot off the pedal. that was blower dragging the engine down.

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                                                                  • Grapesoda
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                                                                    • Jul 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by fastball
                                                                    No, you hit the brake pedal.
                                                                    was kidding... how does the s drive

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                                                                    • BaldBastard
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                                                                      • Jan 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fastball
                                                                      You get to dislike that engine sound after awhile. This from a guy who had a Corvette with lake pipes.

                                                                      As for the brakes, it is called one foot driving. As you let off the "gas" pedal, the regenerative braking kicks in and you glide to a stop where the car just holds. Think of it like downshifting to a complete stop. If you need the brakes, they are still there, but you hardly ever use them. So they last forever.
                                                                      I'm tone deaf and the hum of a car means I need to be lip reading to understand anyone talking, which is kinda hard.

                                                                      So it was amazing for me to be in an electric for the first time.. because I could hear. Its a selling point I don't think they push enough.

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                                                                      • fastball
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                        was kidding... how does the s drive
                                                                        I have a 3 because it fits in my garage, but the S is pretty spectacular. It is like driving an insanely fast formula car with all the comforts of a living room. The car I want, however, is the electric E Type they drove at the Royal wedding. Retro fitted hot cars could be amazing.

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                                                                        • Grapesoda
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                                                                          • Jul 2003
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by fastball
                                                                          No matter what you do, you cannot make it wobble. I hit it really hard in a left turn in 2 feet of snow in Whistler this year and it turned perfectly. I have the rear wheel drive model 3 but it handled better in snow way better than my AWD Grand Cherokee. The car is fucking amazing. And I have owned a couple of E Types, Corvettes etc.
                                                                          However, you have to understand you are driving a computer on four wheels. So it needs to be rebooted a lot.
                                                                          But you hit the freeway in Autopilot and the freeking car drives itself. All you have to do is touch the steering wheel every minute or so for proof of life. But it is fast, capable and quiet.
                                                                          And it has dog mode, so I can leave my dog in a locked climate controlled car.
                                                                          And, if it interests you, it has fart mode. Fun and games.
                                                                          Dog mode would be great

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                                                                          • fastball
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                            Dog mode would be great
                                                                            Dog mode makes it worth the price of the car because I take my dog everywhere. Beats fart mode hands down.

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                                                                            • Applebite Media
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by fastball
                                                                              You get to dislike that engine sound after awhile. This from a guy who had a Corvette with lake pipes.

                                                                              As for the brakes, it is called one foot driving. As you let off the "gas" pedal, the regenerative braking kicks in and you glide to a stop where the car just holds. Think of it like downshifting to a complete stop. If you need the brakes, they are still there, but you hardly ever use them. So they last forever.
                                                                              That is actually pretty cool! Thanks again
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                                                                              • Grapesoda
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by MrBaldBastard
                                                                                I'm tone deaf and the hum of a car means I need to be lip reading to understand anyone talking, which is kinda hard.

                                                                                So it was amazing for me to be in an electric for the first time.. because I could hear. Its a selling point I don't think they push enough.
                                                                                why I didn't get the vette z06..can't hear inside..

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                                                                                • Grapesoda
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by fastball
                                                                                  Dog mode makes it worth the price of the car because I take my dog everywhere. Beats fart mode hands down.
                                                                                  not everywhere and only in the Toyota van... my dog is 160 on a slow day...

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                                                                                  • Rochard
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                                    my caddy is 3.8, no rollout
                                                                                    Cadillacs were cool about forty years ago. My step father had one.
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                                                                                    • Lexi BongaCash
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I am still a huge fan of cadillacs, with a certain weather tho :D


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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Lexi BongaCash
                                                                                        I am still a huge fan of cadillacs, with a certain weather tho :D
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