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  • Major (Tom)
    So Fucking Banned
    • Nov 2003
    • 32492
    #51
    Originally posted by S3X_Jay
    I'm fully vaccinated and have signed up for NY's vaccination passport. The passport isn't just for vaccination, it's also so you can prove that you got tested recently. For now, there are very few places to actually use my vaccination passport - if I wanted to a ball game or a wedding it could be used. But you can also bring your vaccination card or print out the results of your COVID test. It's just the passport is on your phone, so you're unlikely to forget to bring it.

    The one advantage of the passport over paper documentation is that it can't be faked, and it's much easier for venues to validate as you enter.

    It's really not a big deal. People are just complaining because they want to complain about something.

    I don’t feel the state should have this power. I feel the same way about the death penalty

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      • dillonaire
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        • May 2009
        • 1795
        #52
        If that vaccine works so well and you get the vaccine why do you care if others get the vaccine?
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          • Major (Tom)
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            • Nov 2003
            • 32492
            #53
            Originally posted by dillonaire
            If that vaccine works so well and you get the vaccine why do you care if others get the vaccine?
            Leftists are authoritarians

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              • CaptainHowdy
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2004
                • 94736
                #54
                Originally posted by dillonaire
                If that vaccine works so well and you get the vaccine why do you care if others get the vaccine?
                Your call to reason doesn't work in this day and age . . .

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                  • Major (Tom)
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 32492
                    #55
                    Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                    I'm fully vaccinated and have signed up for NY's vaccination passport. The passport isn't just for vaccination, it's also so you can prove that you got tested recently. For now, there are very few places to actually use my vaccination passport - if I wanted to a ball game or a wedding it could be used. But you can also bring your vaccination card or print out the results of your COVID test. It's just the passport is on your phone, so you're unlikely to forget to bring it.

                    The one advantage of the passport over paper documentation is that it can't be faked, and it's much easier for venues to validate as you enter.

                    It's really not a big deal. People are just complaining because they want to complain about something.

                    Roe V Wade makes this unconstitutional. Just fyi

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                      • JSWENSON
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 3153
                        #56
                        Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                        Not distraught. Just very tired of low iq people. Here is a tweet with a screencap. Granted, it was a month ago, but these RNA vaccines change the body. Reprogram it. The side effects can come out years, decades from now. It’s working off modifying your genes for lack of a better term. https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/sta...507498505?s=21

                        Anecdotal but here is more info on her https://twitter.com/back2normlife21/...043447808?s=21

                        “ She said she got Pfizer which means her second shot would have been on 3/22. She posted on IG she wasn’t feeling well and canceled happy hour on 3/19. I pray that wasn’t the cause but also pray the fam disclose if it was. She was an advocate for it.”
                        YOU are the low IQ people. Get this, she also breathed air before she died. Stop breathing, idiot.

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                          • Major (Tom)
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 32492
                            #57
                            Originally posted by JSWENSON
                            YOU are the low IQ people. Get this, she also breathed air before she died. Stop breathing, idiot.

                            What? English, BALKY. Where do they grow you?

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                              • dillonaire
                                Confirmed User
                                • May 2009
                                • 1795
                                #58
                                Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                Your call to reason doesn't work in this day and age . . .

                                Probably the same people that wear a mask in the car by themselves.


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                                  • RyuLion
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                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 32369
                                    #59
                                    Originally posted by dillonaire
                                    Probably the same people that wear a mask in the car by themselves.


                                    The question is why, what got them to unconsciously get them that insecure, or maybe they are on automatic, maybe they are on quarantine but still decided to go out.
                                    How about those who do not cover the nose? Their mask is old so it drops down and they don't care about buying another package..

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                                      • Applebite Media
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                                        #60
                                        Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                        Roe V Wade makes this unconstitutional. Just fyi
                                        How? That case has to do with abortion.
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                                          • Major (Tom)
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                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32492
                                            #61
                                            Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                            How? That case has to do with abortion.
                                            Medical right to privacy

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                                              • Major (Tom)
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Nov 2003
                                                • 32492
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by RyuLion
                                                The question is why, what got them to unconsciously get them that insecure, or maybe they are on automatic, maybe they are on quarantine but still decided to go out.
                                                How about those who do not cover the nose? Their mask is old so it drops down and they don't care about buying another package..
                                                If cnn told them to drive while sitting on a dildo and bounce at red lights it would happen. 100%.

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                                                  • Major (Tom)
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 32492
                                                    #63
                                                    These people are low iq collectivist thinkers. That’s that really

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                                                      • celandina
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Jun 2006
                                                        • 11727
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                        Wow... Another thing to lose

                                                        Heard on the new we may be required to carry a covid passport to travel, get into concerts, ball games...

                                                        Good idea? or a better way to categorize and separate us?

                                                        I mean I can see the need to keep people safe, but on the other hand, I have a problem having things mandated on me. So it's like getting a degree... if you want a job you better have a bachelors degree.. now if you want to travel, you must be injected with out drug.

                                                        So torn over this.


                                                        And to make this clear... this is not political... this is about the vaccine and these new passports
                                                        It is easy. 50 years ago you could not get married if you did not have a negative VDRL test ( call it VDRL passport) and if you, even unknowingly, infected anybody with Treponema Pallaidum, you went to jail and be isolated until you dropped dead. It was the " liberals" who fought and changed it, so fucking syphilis is again everywhere. The ONLY difference between now and then is, that you can CURE syphilis with antibiotics if treated early.

                                                        The difference here is, that the covidiots who spread Covid 19 are exempt form being punished even isolated ( unless they are on their death bed) and happily killing people everywhere claiming constitutional rights. The difference between syphilis and Covid is that we have NO CURE for Covid, we only have the vaccine.

                                                        so to wit:

                                                        If you can get a vaccine and refuse. Good! Nobody will isolate you or put you in jail, thanks to the fucking liberals, but the rest of us have the right not to be infected by these idiots. So, the antivaxers have every right to stay home and NOT be allowed to situations where they can "murder" others.

                                                        The irony of it all is, that it was the liberals way back who fought the conservatives. Conservatives wanted to lock up all the syphilitics ( not to mention HIV patients and the first SARS victims) and throw away the key. But now it is the conservatives who would let these murdering idiots into the wide population. But then again you cannot cure stupid !

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                                                          • S3X_Jay
                                                            Registered User
                                                            • Dec 2020
                                                            • 38
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by dillonaire
                                                            If that vaccine works so well and you get the vaccine why do you care if others get the vaccine?
                                                            Vaccine passports aren't about whether I think you should get a vaccine.
                                                            • They're about governments trying to reopen as quickly as possible without overwhelming the hospital system.
                                                            • They're about reducing the societal cost of lots of people getting sick (there's better stuff to spend that money on).
                                                            • They're about governments trying to protect vulnerable populations.
                                                            • They're about vaccinated people trying to avoid mostly non-lethal side effects if they get COVID (which they still can get).
                                                            • They're about assuring vaccinated people that it's safe to go out and be around other people (and spend money - which helps the economy)
                                                            • They're about reducing forgeries in testing and vaccination documentation.
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                                                              • Major (Tom)
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Nov 2003
                                                                • 32492
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                Vaccine passports aren't about whether I think you should get a vaccine.
                                                                • They're about governments trying to reopen as quickly as possible without overwhelming the hospital system.
                                                                • They're about reducing the societal cost of lots of people getting sick (there's better stuff to spend that money on).
                                                                • They're about governments trying to protect vulnerable populations.
                                                                • They're about vaccinated people trying to avoid mostly non-lethal side effects if they get COVID (which they still can get).
                                                                • They're about assuring vaccinated people that it's safe to go out and be around other people (and spend money - which helps the economy)
                                                                • They're about reducing forgeries in testing and vaccination documentation.
                                                                It’s unconstitutional and will be challenged in courts & in person. Cucks will lose jay. Liberty will win.

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                                                                  • mopek1
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                    • 3196
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                    If cnn told them to drive while sitting on a dildo and bounce at red lights it would happen. 100%.
                                                                    It's funny but it's not. Having seen how people eat up whatever the news tells them scares me.

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                                                                      • mopek1
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Jun 2004
                                                                        • 3196
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by celandina

                                                                        The difference here is, that the covidiots who spread Covid 19
                                                                        That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

                                                                        The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

                                                                        It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

                                                                        The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.

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                                                                          • mopek1
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                                                                            • Jun 2004
                                                                            • 3196
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                            [*]Vaccine passports aren't about whether I think you should get a vaccine.
                                                                            • They're about governments trying to reopen as quickly as possible without overwhelming the hospital system.
                                                                            • They never were in most cases (without the vaccine).

                                                                              Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                            • They're about reducing the societal cost of lots of people getting sick (there's better stuff to spend that money on).
                                                                            By locking down they have caused way more damage economically. It would have been better to not lock down if you want to look at it from an economical standpoint.

                                                                            Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                          • They're about governments trying to protect vulnerable populations.
                                                                          Those populations can get the vaccine if they want. We don't need to in order to protect them.

                                                                          Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                        • They're about vaccinated people trying to avoid mostly non-lethal side effects if they get COVID (which they still can get).
                                                                          • Let people decide if we want that or not. It's not the government's place to force us to take a vaccine so we can be spared from side effects that may or may not occur.

                                                                          Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                        • They're about assuring vaccinated people that it's safe to go out and be around other people (and spend money - which helps the economy)
                                                                          • So override the population's rights so that you can make others feel better? That is authoritarian and absolutely horrible.

                                                                          And btw, you don't need to worry about the economy. Open up and people will push each other out of the way to spend money and go to concerts etc... Look at the Texas Rangers home opener - sold out.

                                                                          Originally posted by S3X_Jay
                                                                        • They're about reducing forgeries in testing and vaccination documentation.
                                                                          • ?? So we have to force everyone to get vaccinated to make sure some people don't fake it?


                                                                          Your reasons are very authoritarian and you would do well in a country like China. I'm baffled at how many Marxists/Collectivists live in the USA.

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                                                                            • Major (Tom)
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                              • 32492
                                                                              #70
                                                                              Colorado vaccination site shuts down after 11 'adverse reactions' to Johnson & Johnson jabs: Latest COVID-19 updates

                                                                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rt/7126994002/

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                                                                                • Major (Tom)
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                                                  • 32492
                                                                                  #71
                                                                                  Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                  They never were in most cases (without the vaccine).



                                                                                  By locking down they have caused way more damage economically. It would have been better to not lock down if you want to look at it from an economical standpoint.



                                                                                  Those populations can get the vaccine if they want. We don't need to in order to protect them.



                                                                                  Let people decide if we want that or not. It's not the government's place to force us to take a vaccine so we can be spared from side effects that may or may not occur.



                                                                                  So override the population's rights so that you can make others feel better? That is authoritarian and absolutely horrible.

                                                                                  And btw, you don't need to worry about the economy. Open up and people will push each other out of the way to spend money and go to concerts etc... Look at the Texas Rangers home opener - sold out.



                                                                                  ?? So we have to force everyone to get vaccinated to make sure some people don't fake it?


                                                                                  Your reasons are very authoritarian and you would do well in a country like China. I'm baffled at how many Marxists/Collectivists live in the USA.
                                                                                  Jay is a marxist authoritarian collectivist. I can say that here at least.

                                                                                  I just find it funny that the group of people who loves to call others nazis demands you start carrying papers. Fuck these authoritarians. If you’re at risk for covid complications stay the fuck home. Let the healthy play outside and inside. Get netflix or something.

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                                                                                    • Major (Tom)
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 32492
                                                                                      #72
                                                                                      Originally posted by celandina
                                                                                      It is easy. 50 years ago you could not get married if you did not have a negative VDRL test ( call it VDRL passport) and if you, even unknowingly, infected anybody with Treponema Pallaidum, you went to jail and be isolated until you dropped dead. It was the " liberals" who fought and changed it, so fucking syphilis is again everywhere. The ONLY difference between now and then is, that you can CURE syphilis with antibiotics if treated early.

                                                                                      The difference here is, that the covidiots who spread Covid 19 are exempt form being punished even isolated ( unless they are on their death bed) and happily killing people everywhere claiming constitutional rights. The difference between syphilis and Covid is that we have NO CURE for Covid, we only have the vaccine.

                                                                                      so to wit:

                                                                                      If you can get a vaccine and refuse. Good! Nobody will isolate you or put you in jail, thanks to the fucking liberals, but the rest of us have the right not to be infected by these idiots. So, the antivaxers have every right to stay home and NOT be allowed to situations where they can "murder" others.

                                                                                      The irony of it all is, that it was the liberals way back who fought the conservatives. Conservatives wanted to lock up all the syphilitics ( not to mention HIV patients and the first SARS victims) and throw away the key. But now it is the conservatives who would let these murdering idiots into the wide population. But then again you cannot cure stupid !
                                                                                      Punished? For the flu? Stay home bro. I’ll take my chances. Already had it and beat it like a red headed step child

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                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                          #73
                                                                                          Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                          They never were in most cases (without the vaccine).



                                                                                          By locking down they have caused way more damage economically. It would have been better to not lock down if you want to look at it from an economical standpoint.



                                                                                          Those populations can get the vaccine if they want. We don't need to in order to protect them.



                                                                                          Let people decide if we want that or not. It's not the government's place to force us to take a vaccine so we can be spared from side effects that may or may not occur.



                                                                                          So override the population's rights so that you can make others feel better? That is authoritarian and absolutely horrible.

                                                                                          And btw, you don't need to worry about the economy. Open up and people will push each other out of the way to spend money and go to concerts etc... Look at the Texas Rangers home opener - sold out.



                                                                                          ?? So we have to force everyone to get vaccinated to make sure some people don't fake it?


                                                                                          Your reasons are very authoritarian and you would do well in a country like China. I'm baffled at how many Marxists/Collectivists live in the USA.
                                                                                          Almost all are pronouned and/or poor

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                                                                                            • Tasty1
                                                                                              Bla bla blaa
                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                              • 9529
                                                                                              #74
                                                                                              Originally posted by celandina
                                                                                              The irony of it all is, that it was the liberals way back who fought the conservatives. Conservatives wanted to lock up all the syphilitics ( not to mention HIV patients and the first SARS victims) and throw away the key. But now it is the conservatives who would let these murdering idiots into the wide population. But then again you cannot cure stupid !
                                                                                              ?? So the democrats are now the new nazi? Or do you mean that those AIDS patients murdered millions cause they didn't want to wear a condom? Or both?

                                                                                              everything is fake

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                                                                                                • 421Fill
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                  • 20659
                                                                                                  #75
                                                                                                  Originally posted by celandina
                                                                                                  It is easy. 50 years ago you could not get married if you did not have a negative VDRL test ( call it VDRL passport) and if you, even unknowingly, infected anybody with Treponema Pallaidum, you went to jail and be isolated until you dropped dead. It was the " liberals" who fought and changed it, so fucking syphilis is again everywhere. The ONLY difference between now and then is, that you can CURE syphilis with antibiotics if treated early.

                                                                                                  The difference here is, that the covidiots who spread Covid 19 are exempt form being punished even isolated ( unless they are on their death bed) and happily killing people everywhere claiming constitutional rights. The difference between syphilis and Covid is that we have NO CURE for Covid, we only have the vaccine.

                                                                                                  so to wit:

                                                                                                  If you can get a vaccine and refuse. Good! Nobody will isolate you or put you in jail, thanks to the fucking liberals, but the rest of us have the right not to be infected by these idiots. So, the antivaxers have every right to stay home and NOT be allowed to situations where they can "murder" others.

                                                                                                  The irony of it all is, that it was the liberals way back who fought the conservatives. Conservatives wanted to lock up all the syphilitics ( not to mention HIV patients and the first SARS victims) and throw away the key. But now it is the conservatives who would let these murdering idiots into the wide population. But then again you cannot cure stupid !

                                                                                                  I think all of you libturds are putting my life at risk by being a blindly obedient sheep. You should be arrested for attempted murder for the possible aneurysm I might have from trying to make sense of how people who are supposed to be smart lack such important critical thinking skills.

                                                                                                  thanks to people like you, the govt thinks they do whatever they want... because sheep be sheeping

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                                                                                                    • 421Fill
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                                                                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                                                                      • 20659
                                                                                                      #76
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                      I would be fine with this.

                                                                                                      If you are so stupid that you refuse to get a vaccine... Then you shouldn't be allowed to go into resturants or bars or baseball games.

                                                                                                      Here in the US our kids have to get certain vaccines to go to school. It's not a big deal.
                                                                                                      are the kids required to take vaccines that are still in 3rd stage trials?

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                                                                                                        • PimpStar
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                                                                                                          • Dec 2006
                                                                                                          • 640
                                                                                                          #77
                                                                                                          I think everyone should be Free to make their own choice
                                                                                                          and less rules is more Fun to Enjoy the Short stay on this Earth

                                                                                                          Everyone is responsible for their own health and the only true health hazards the governments should be concerned about if they did care about the health of the people

                                                                                                          was stopping toxicity in the environment, example pesticides are very damaging for living organisms, also radiation damages all living organisms

                                                                                                          Eating toxic food ....your choice ...your freedom ( diabetes, cancer, etc)
                                                                                                          Smoking toxic stuff---your choice ( globally hospitals are full because of this for decades)
                                                                                                          Alcohol use .... your choice ( so many hospital bed full of this for decades )
                                                                                                          radiation ...please don't mention 5g 4g wifi causing health problems that's crazy right?

                                                                                                          So what improves the immune system
                                                                                                          living happy healthy and free
                                                                                                          being social

                                                                                                          what hurts the immune system
                                                                                                          toxicity
                                                                                                          living in fear
                                                                                                          social isolation


                                                                                                          Those who know will know and those who don't will most probably bark their bark of ignorance

                                                                                                          Their is no logic here its pure politics, there is no possibility that you can protect some one else's immune system by staying indoors / masks etc, if they make healthy life choices they will be protected by that
                                                                                                          we will all die somewhere along the road when our immune system is finished
                                                                                                          and nurses working with the elderly say its always some virus which finishes the most at the end
                                                                                                          but now the virus story seems to be weaponized to spread the Marxism
                                                                                                          create total govt control and dependence for the many

                                                                                                          My hope is that some parts of the globe stay Free and Fun without Marxism
                                                                                                          less paperwork, less rules, and no need for vaccine passports

                                                                                                          We could call it "The Land of the Free"

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                                                                                                            • hamiltonsteele
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                                                                                                              #78
                                                                                                              Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                              It's funny but it's not. Having seen how people eat up whatever the news tells them scares me.
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                                                                                                                • Relic
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                  • 10300
                                                                                                                  #79
                                                                                                                  I wouldn't get too attached to anyone who has drank the kool-aid:

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                                                                                                                    • RyuLion
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                                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                      • 32369
                                                                                                                      #80
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by DukeSkywalker
                                                                                                                      If cnn told them to drive while sitting on a dildo and bounce at red lights it would happen. 100%.
                                                                                                                      Lots of people are also lazy and they don't want to think on their own.

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                                                                                                                        • Sergio
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                                                                                                                            • Applebite Media
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                                                                                                                              #82
                                                                                                                              Liberals.... Conservatives... bla... bla... bla....

                                                                                                                              Fact is, we are ALL responsible for this situation and this virus. We talk about saving the planet while sending our manufacturing to china for cheap labor and no real regulation on pollution.

                                                                                                                              And once here in this pandemic... we once again put profit above humanity, lessen restrictions.

                                                                                                                              "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.... or the one." ~Spock

                                                                                                                              Covid cases go up... restrict, cases go down, loosen and cases go up again. Simple logic yet we say fuck it... I'm tired of being trapped with my wife/husband and kids, I need out of this house and back to work! or I am too lazy to cook and want to go out to eat again...

                                                                                                                              How many times have we done this now? 4? Face it... you all fight over liberal and conservative when the real enemy and what controls this country are the corporations. All laws and regulations are made to benefit them most.

                                                                                                                              Let's not forget, politicians made corporations "people". Think about that when they are giving their political speeches and talking about "the people". See if what they are saying really applies to you or benefiting (or hurting depending on the side) the corporations.

                                                                                                                              Face it, we are ALL puppets no matter which side you are on or even if not on any side. Our strings are being pulled, your comments and feelings being manipulated through many sources.... You are being programmed daily and don't even know it. Think about it.

                                                                                                                              What I love the most is how people defend a party as if that party would do the same for them. Talk about sheep!!!! LMAO!
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                                                                                                                                • mopek1
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                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                  • 3196
                                                                                                                                  #83
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                                                                                                  Covid cases go up... restrict, cases go down, loosen and cases go up again. Simple logic yet we say fuck it...
                                                                                                                                  Except it's not simple logic.

                                                                                                                                  Florida and Texas are open and doing better than other states that are heavily restricted like New York, Minn, Oregon etc...

                                                                                                                                  People like me keep pointing out places like South Dakota, Sweden, Belarus and now TX and FL and no matter how many times it's put in front of people's faces they choose not to see it. The reason they choose to not to see it is because it breaks their logic apart.

                                                                                                                                  Then someone like you comes along and says "simple logic" as if the rest of us are all dumb and can't see the obvious truth.

                                                                                                                                  I challenge that it is you and people like you who hold that pro-lockdown opinion that don't want to see the simple logic. Then you look silly pointing out how others are not logical.

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                                                                                                                                    • Applebite Media
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                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2018
                                                                                                                                      • 406
                                                                                                                                      #84
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                                                      Except it's not simple logic.

                                                                                                                                      Florida and Texas are open and doing better than other states that are heavily restricted like New York, Minn, Oregon etc...

                                                                                                                                      People like me keep pointing out places like South Dakota, Sweden, Belarus and now TX and FL and no matter how many times it's put in front of people's faces they choose not to see it. The reason they choose to not to see it is because it breaks their logic apart.

                                                                                                                                      Then someone like you comes along and says "simple logic" as if the rest of us are all dumb and can't see the obvious truth.

                                                                                                                                      I challenge that it is you and people like you who hold that pro-lockdown opinion that don't want to see the simple logic. Then you look silly pointing out how others are not logical.
                                                                                                                                      I'm pro common sense.... nothing more. And yes... most people are morons these days. We keep cutting the education budgets in this country.... teaching how to take tests and not how to think... keep them smart enough to run our machines.

                                                                                                                                      You need to listen to the meaning of what is being said, not the words. The same words can have different meanings....

                                                                                                                                      Face it, more people care about what Beyonce said yesterday than covid anyway.... Our values are soooooo fucked up!
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                                                                                                                                        • celandina
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 11727
                                                                                                                                          #85
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                                                          That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

                                                                                                                                          The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

                                                                                                                                          It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

                                                                                                                                          The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.
                                                                                                                                          I put antivaxers and those not obeying the rules into the same category = covidiots ! As to the Nevada Governor who got it, got it likely because he could not control the covidiots around him. Be that as it may, nothing is foolproof but it is ALL about probabilities and statistics. Too much to try to explain to stupid But maybe they'll get this: If a guy fucks another guy in the ass without a condom, he has statistically greater probability to catch HIV. As I have said..... statistics !

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                                                                                                                                            • mopek1
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 3196
                                                                                                                                              #86
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by hamiltonsteele
                                                                                                                                              ||| You can't argue with people that are willfully ignorant because no
                                                                                                                                              amount of logic or reason will change their opinions.
                                                                                                                                              I have found this as well. You can talk until you are blue in the face but they won't listen, at least not on the same frequency.


                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by hamiltonsteele
                                                                                                                                              So my advice is don't waste your breath.
                                                                                                                                              Yep. It is a waste.

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                                                                                                                                                • mopek1
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                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 3196
                                                                                                                                                  #87
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Applebite Media
                                                                                                                                                  Face it, more people care about what Beyonce said yesterday than covid anyway.... Our values are soooooo fucked up!
                                                                                                                                                  Yeah that's a fact. Jerry Springer gets more attention than National Geographic. It's sad.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Applebite Media
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                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2018
                                                                                                                                                      • 406
                                                                                                                                                      #88
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                                                                      Yeah that's a fact. Jerry Springer gets more attention than National Geographic. It's sad.
                                                                                                                                                      Very much so!
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                                                                                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                                                                                          #89
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by newB
                                                                                                                                                          It's mRNA - it uses the protein building mechanism of translation to build fragments of the proteins in the spike. As foreign proteins, these are what the vaccine is priming the recipients immune system to recognize.

                                                                                                                                                          In no way does it alter your DNA or genes.

                                                                                                                                                          But you know what can? Viruses. When they inject their DNA into the host cell, they can change the sequence upstream of an oncogene, turning it into a start codon.

                                                                                                                                                          FYI, I have multiple degrees in the life sciences, including a minor in Genetics and a lot of post-grad Genetics courses.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Sid70
                                                                                                                                                              Downshifter
                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 16413
                                                                                                                                                              #90
                                                                                                                                                              It would make sense only if vaccines worked 100% life time.
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                                                                                                                                                                • AmeliaG
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 10663
                                                                                                                                                                  #91
                                                                                                                                                                  Jerry Springer's show ended years ago. Probably couldn't manage to trip the meter in an environment where those types of interactions are not a traffic accident but normative.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • Pink24
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2019
                                                                                                                                                                      • 1436
                                                                                                                                                                      #92
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by mopek1
                                                                                                                                                                      That's an assumption. I'm assuming that you using the term "covidiots" you are referring to people who don't wear masks and don't follow the rules etc.

                                                                                                                                                                      The virus spreads with everyone, covidiot or not. The governor of Nevada scolded his population for spreading the virus and then he himself got it. He wore a mask and distanced from everyone and he still got it and doesn't know where it came from. He then felt awkward and wasn't so accusatory afterwards.

                                                                                                                                                                      It's easy and popular to blame the spread on people not following the rules. I hear it all the time, "If people just did what they were supposed to do at the beginning we wouldn't be in this mess..." but that's not the case. Spread is mostly in care homes and centers and places like those that take the MOST precautions. Everyone else I know who caught it in my community has no clue where they got it from and they feel like they did something wrong which is just sad.

                                                                                                                                                                      The virus will do it's thing and if you don't want to risk getting it then stay home but we must stop pretending we can control it because we can't.
                                                                                                                                                                      This. Is the most sensible thing I have heard in months.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Major (Tom)
                                                                                                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 32492
                                                                                                                                                                          #93
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Pink24
                                                                                                                                                                          This. Is the most sensible thing I have heard in months.
                                                                                                                                                                          So it’s the covidiots vs the Branch Covidians

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                                                                                                                                                                            • RFremont
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2006
                                                                                                                                                                              • 621
                                                                                                                                                                              #94
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by newB
                                                                                                                                                                              You have no valid argument so you resort to fabrications and insinuations? Poor form, man.
                                                                                                                                                                              Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

                                                                                                                                                                              You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?

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                                                                                                                                                                                • newB
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 2870
                                                                                                                                                                                  #95
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by RFremont
                                                                                                                                                                                  Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

                                                                                                                                                                                  You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                  Your reading comprehension is remarkable.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Go back and take another run at it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • hamiltonsteele
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 1041
                                                                                                                                                                                      #96
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by RFremont
                                                                                                                                                                                      Here's what I don't get about stupid motherfuckers like you. If you are so confident in the safety and protection of a vaccine because Dr Billy Gates says so, which you are well within your right to do, then why do you care if I also get vaccinated?

                                                                                                                                                                                      You will be protected from covid due to the vaccine, right?
                                                                                                                                                                                      Vaccines are not 100%

                                                                                                                                                                                      For decades we were made to believe that they were but now we're
                                                                                                                                                                                      effectively being told otherwise.
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • ruff
                                                                                                                                                                                          I have a plan B
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 5507
                                                                                                                                                                                          #97
                                                                                                                                                                                          My wife and I are members of a local sex club. A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Tasty1
                                                                                                                                                                                              Bla bla blaa
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 9529
                                                                                                                                                                                              #98
                                                                                                                                                                                              Holland is in lockdown and they extended the lockdown (bars and restaurants closed till april 28 at least). Doesn't look that that helped. What might have helped if the government didn't close 50% of Intensive Care units last 10 years cause it was so expensive. And still they vote for the guy.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Now the government want to keep bars and restaurants closed longer while the mayors of the big cities ask to open up terraces cause the parks are filled with people and groups starting party's.

                                                                                                                                                                                              What didn't work in Holland is that during last Mexican flu the expert that was on TV all the time warning about the deadly Mexican flu was filling his pockets by selling a vaccin to the government for millions, that where never used. And later results found, they hardly worked. They became the new TV stars and get aroused by all attention.

                                                                                                                                                                                              everything is fake

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • mopek1
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 3196
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #99
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                                                                                                                                  My wife and I are members of a local sex club. A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Precedent. Even if you think in that one case (or some cases) that something is a good idea it can be used for ill in the future.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  For example this vaccine is likely safe but what's if they start mandating other vaccines that you are not sure about, or mandating other conditions for a person to be involved in American life.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's just not a good thing to give governments that kind of power.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • k0nr4d
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 9231
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by ruff
                                                                                                                                                                                                      A vaccine passport is good to have and why not?
                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's good to have TODAY, sure. You accepted the covid vaccine, you are happy, all is well, but what happens when the next vaccine rolls around? What if the covid one is ok but this next one isn't? Will you take it so you have your "health passport" updated? What about the one after that? And the one after that? Will you stop after a certain one? What if you find yourself getting sicker and sicker after each vaccination? All or some of these injections, of course, will have no liability for the producer as with the covid vaccine.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It either gets stopped now, or by supporting it you are basically accepting that you will be injected with whatever the powers that be deem necessary. You are putting full, absolute trust in your government, which IMHO is a huge mistake. Situations occur all the time where people cannot afford treatments or insurance. If you have insufficient money, the government will let you die - but they literally print money. If you do not have enough of their fake paper money, you are allowed to die. No one makes an exception for you. Pharma companies are the same, and allow 5 year olds to die because their parents cannot afford treatments. You don't have enough fake money, that is printed out of fucking thin air, your child dies. They have demonstrated fully that you can pay taxes, be a good person, be whatever, but they will let you, your wife, or your children die. That is not an entity I would put trust in to determine what will be injected into me.
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