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07-26-2009, 03:18 AM

My brother's wife was applying for a police dispatcher position in the City of Rocklin this week, and did a 'ride-along' with someone there. She said they have a wall that consists of a satellite surveillance screen that refreshes every 4 minutes. They can key in your address and look at the cars parked in front of your house, see anyone in the area, etc.

This is scary shit IMO.

The possibilities of it's unscrupulous use are endless.
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07-26-2009, 03:24 AM

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07-26-2009, 03:31 AM

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Cause everyone has a bush parked in their driveway...
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07-26-2009, 03:34 AM

It's not satellite images if its updated avery 4 minutes. Its images gathered by the police and news choppers that fly over the area

Low Earth orbit satellites used to take those images, only pass over a given spot on the ground once every few days
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07-26-2009, 03:45 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

It's not satellite images if its updated avery 4 minutes. Its images gathered by the police and news choppers that fly over the area

Low Earth orbit satellites used to take those images, only pass over a given spot on the ground once every few days

It is definitely satellite images, and it is definitely every 4 minutes. And it's definitely scary shit.

I used to live in Rocklin and there is not a helicopter flying 24/7. That would be an incredible nuisance, and an even bigger waste of taxpayer dollars.
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07-26-2009, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by xenigo

It is definitely satellite images, and it is definitely every 4 minutes. And it's definitely scary shit.

I used to live in Rocklin and there is not a helicopter flying 24/7. That would be an incredible nuisance, and an even bigger waste of taxpayer dollars.

I dont belive you(your brother's wife). geostationary satellite images dont have that kind of resolution and I do think a 50+ community can afford one even if it had.
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07-26-2009, 03:53 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

I dont belive you(your brother's wife). geostationary satellite images dont have that kind of resolution and I do think a 50+ community can afford one even if it had.

It's not a 50+ community. It's a city, dude. Population 53,000.
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07-26-2009, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by xenigo

My brother's wife was applying for a police dispatcher position in the City of Rocklin this week, and did a 'ride-along' with someone there. She said they have a wall that consists of a satellite surveillance screen that refreshes every 4 minutes. They can key in your address and look at the cars parked in front of your house, see anyone in the area, etc.

This is scary shit IMO.

The possibilities of it's unscrupulous use are endless.

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07-26-2009, 03:58 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

I dont belive you(your brother's wife). geostationary satellite images dont have that kind of resolution and I do think a 50+ community can afford one even if it had.

Actually they have. Enjoy the specs for the begging at this century: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/...lleLouis.shtml

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07-26-2009, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by xenigo

It's not a 50+ community. It's a city, dude. Population 53,000.

50+ as in 50k
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07-26-2009, 04:03 AM

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Cause everyone has a bush parked in their driveway...

dont they have yards where you live? i mean fuck, if you are going to camo net your car, you might as well park in the fucking yard too.

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07-26-2009, 04:05 AM

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dont they have yards where you live? i mean fuck, if you are going to camo net your car, you might as well park in the fucking yard too.

I think the garage tends to work better.
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07-26-2009, 04:06 AM

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Actually they have. Enjoy the specs for the begging at this century: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/...lleLouis.shtml

none of those are geostationary satellites you idiot. It's impossible to have orbiting satellites flying over your head every 4 minutes.
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07-26-2009, 04:07 AM

lol k, too much discussion over something that was supposed to make you crack a smile, not make your butt hurt.

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07-26-2009, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

none of those are geostationary satellites you idiot. It's impossible to have orbiting satellites flying over your head every 4 minutes.

Apparently they demo'd it to her by asking what her Rocklin address was. They typed it in, saw the image, and said "looks like nobody's home". The technology is apparently very, very advanced. Much more so than I had imagined before this evening.
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07-26-2009, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by dav3

lol k, too much discussion over something that was supposed to make you crack a smile, not make your butt hurt.

I swear I didn't sense the sarcasm... if it was more sarcasmic, perhaps I would have picked up on the driveway / bush / car joke...
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07-26-2009, 04:38 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

none of those are geostationary satellites you idiot. It's impossible to have orbiting satellites flying over your head every 4 minutes.

The modern geostationary spy satellites have effective optical resolution of 1 meter (IGS-1a etc). This is an official info, but there is also a secret part of info which is unavailable for everyone. I won't be surprised if there are GEO spy satellites with an optical resolution as low as 50 centimeters and even less.

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07-26-2009, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

The modern geostationary spy satellites have effective optical resolution of 1 meter (IGS-1a etc). This is an official info, but there is also a secret part of info which is unavailable for everyone. I won't be surprised if there are GEO spy satellites with an optical resolution as low as 50 centimeters and even less.

IGS-1a is NOT geostationary, they are orbiting god damn it!

For that 50k community to have a quasilive image feed from a satellite every 4 minute, they need something like 25 satellite in orbit exclusive passing over their head. Every person in that community needs to be billionairs to be able to afford that kind of service.

I'm not saying they dont have the images - all im saying is, its not satellite based.

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07-26-2009, 05:03 AM

IGS-1a is NOT geostationary, they are orbiting god damn it!

For that 50k community to have a quasilive image feed from a satellite every 4 minute, they need something like 25 satellite in orbit exclusive passing over their head. Every person in that community needs to be billionairs to be able to afford that kind of service.

I'm not saying they dont have the images - all im saying is, its not satellite based.

And it all comes down to basic math and common sense, both basically uncommon.
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07-26-2009, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

IGS-1a is NOT geostationary, they are orbiting god damn it!

Yes, I got wrong info on IGS-1. BTW, what is an effective optical resolution of USA-171 for example?

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07-26-2009, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by Doug E

And it all comes down to basic math and common sense, both basically uncommon.

How exactly the information on optical resolution of GEO spy satellites correlates with basic math and common sense? What shit are you smoking man?

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07-26-2009, 05:13 AM

Does anyone in here really believe we know what the hell is up there and what it can really do? Maybe in ten years we will know what can be done today, by then it will have become so obsolete that the information will surface.

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07-26-2009, 05:22 AM

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Does anyone in here really believe we know what the hell is up there and what it can really do?

Exactly. Almost all the REAL information is secret. That's why I asked about USA-171 because nobody here knows the actual (non-fake) specs.

P.S. As about USA-171, so at least we know it's really exists, but I doubt we know about ALL military satellites that were launched by various countries.

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07-26-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Yes, I got wrong info on IGS-1. BTW, what is an effective optical resolution of USA-171 for example?

I would say ZERO since its a sattelite that is build to pick up radio and other electronic signals. Or did you think they managed to throw a huge cam in it as well?

for satellite images where you can see stuff on the ground, you need Low Earth orbit satellites.

You use geostationary positioned further out in space when you want to measure radiosignals, weather, heat ect ect ect. But optical cameras NEED to be low Earth orbiting
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07-26-2009, 05:27 AM

BTW, as you may remember, the US government has denied the existence of ECHELON. There is always a big difference between what the government says and what it actually has.

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07-26-2009, 05:31 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

BTW, as you may remember, the US government has denied the existence of ECHELON. There is always a big difference between what the government says and what it actually has.

wtf does that have to do with the physical impossibilities if a 50k community having a geostationary positioned satellite hovering over their head?
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07-26-2009, 05:32 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

Or did you think they managed to throw a huge cam in it as well?

As I said above, I don't really know what exactly equipment they have on this (as well as on other) satellites. Should I rely upon the publicly available info?

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07-26-2009, 05:34 AM

The government still doesn't spy on you as much as your neighbors do.
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07-26-2009, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

Should I rely upon the publicly available info?

No, you should rely on scientific FACTS and simple math

I give up .. you obviously rather belive you sifi-tinhat-hollywood story. It's as pointless as debating religion with religious people

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07-26-2009, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

wtf does that have to do with the physical impossibilities if a 50k community having a geostationary positioned satellite hovering over their head?

Nothing. Actually yes, I believe I have moved a bit offtopic there. Course all these secret military systems are 100% unavailable there.

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07-26-2009, 05:52 AM

That is nothing compared to what military do, and have been doing for years. I could tell all about some cool stuff, but then they had to shoot me.
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07-26-2009, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by cyberxxx

How exactly the information on optical resolution of GEO spy satellites correlates with basic math and common sense? What shit are you smoking man?

For some reason I'm reminded of a line of dialogue from some movie that went roughly "NASA spent millions developing a pen that could write in space. The Russians, they used a pencil."

The common sense to know that a satellite costs a lot of money and the basic math to understand that a lot of money spent surveilling a town of butt-fuck proportions is not worth the expenditure. But what do I know, it could very well be some piggy back experiment on a scientific satellite used to monitor the decline in numbers of the endangered WuWu bird of Rocklin and its correlation to global warming. And as I don't have much past basic math and common sense I'm not capable of figuring out the possibility of that.

In all my ignorance and lack of wisdom I am also overly sure that if the Rocklin police department has access to a super secret spy satellite the capabilities of their surveillance program would not be allowed to be openly spoken about by every badge to every job applicant.

But for real, I got no idea. This thread just cracked me up enough that I had to post, be I the dumb or the not

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07-26-2009, 07:17 AM

i think they were just playing a joke on your brothers wife. It would cost unheard of amounts of $$$ to accomplish this feat, besides the technical impossibility.

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07-26-2009, 07:27 AM

ok - I did a little research while cooking dinner

http://www.rocklin.ca.gov/government...tch__9_1_1.asp

its that map she saw. its a satellite image, but its not updated every 4 minutes. That map is used to embed the calls and locations in to the map, so they can get a live view of the calls (not the map, but the CALLS)

The only thing that updates every 4 minutes is the GPS location of the police staff
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07-26-2009, 07:27 AM

You took this word from a woman? They were probably refreshing Google Earth!

I LOL atball the GFY aerospace engineers and their advanced knowledge of spy satellites. I have no doubt that there are some pretty advanced fucking satellites way out there, that could probably read the newspaper with you. The government has got all sorts of fucked up technologies that no common man seems to know about until 50 years after its been in use.

That being said though, I do have to agree, the idea that a city of 50,000 is using this sort technology in their local PD is fucking ridiculous...
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07-26-2009, 07:31 AM

its not possible.

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07-26-2009, 07:32 AM

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07-26-2009, 07:33 AM

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its not possible.

I guess you haven't watched 24

They had sattelites 'n shit able to survey any area in the world.
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07-26-2009, 08:18 AM

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07-26-2009, 08:30 AM

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07-26-2009, 09:29 AM

Aren't geostationary satellites only achieved over the equator?

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07-26-2009, 09:39 AM

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Aren't geostationary satellites only achieved over the equator?

that is the correct gramatical meaning of the word, but most people usually use the word for satellites that stay the same in the same spot compared to the ground below. Other people call it Geosynchronous orbit wich is the correct term. But mostly its the same thing people reffer to

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07-26-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by KrisH

that is the correct gramatical meaning of the word, but most people usually use the word for satellites that stay the same in the same spot compared to the ground below. Other people call it Geosynchronous orbit wich is the correct term. But mostly its the same thing people reffer to

I understand the vernacular distinction, but I thought this could only be achieved along the equator. Upon a little research, it appears that's not an accurate understanding. Apparently, a geosynchronous satellite can be relatively stationary even away from the equator, but will appear to oscillate around a fixed point. Only at the equator will it actually be geostationary, which was my original allusion.

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07-26-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by ModelPerfect

I understand the vernacular distinction, but I thought this could only be achieved along the equator. Upon a little research, it appears that's not an accurate understanding. Apparently, a geosynchronous satellite can be relatively stationary even away from the equator, but will appear to oscillate around a fixed point. Only at the equator will it actually be geostationary, which was my original allusion.

All i know is what the different types of satellites are and what they are used for. That and the fact the earth is actually a little pearshaped. And I only know it because I worked with the danish company that fused the flyover images with googles sattelite images.
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07-26-2009, 10:50 AM

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07-26-2009, 11:17 AM

Sigh...

Satelites in geostationary orbit are always in the same point in space relative to a position on the earth. They are directly above the earth's equator, 22,236 miles up. Even though some have high res cameras, they aren't good enough to view streets and details. Instead they are used mostly for weather.

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07-26-2009, 11:25 AM

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