I find these amazing solo girl sites that seem to convert ok and sometimes a lot better then ok but you make about $14 per sale as NO ONE stays more then one month.
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Have you tried promoting me yet?
I make my members stay month after month with my 2x week webcam shows and 2x week vid/pic set updates!
Try me out let me know how I convert/retain for you!
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Our average retention is WAAAAAY better than that.ISLAND DOLLARS
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Oh and that's just one, not the longest... there's some who've been renewing for a year....
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do your homework, before you promote a solo girl ask for a pass to take a look at the members area - does the content in the members area live up to what's on the tour? how many upsells are in the members area and where are they? how often does it update?
here are the stats on DawsonMiller screencapped from CCBILL's Admin - a full two months retention AVERAGE. and i know most won't post theirs cuz they suck.
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Nice as that is about $30 for my cut. Nothing to get upset about.do your homework, before you promote a solo girl ask for a pass to take a look at the members area - does the content in the members area live up to what's on the tour? how many upsells are in the members area and where are they? how often does it update?
here are the stats on DawsonMiller screencapped from CCBILL's Admin - a full two months retention AVERAGE. and i know most won't post theirs cuz they suck.
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There are so many dead solo girl sites that look good from the outside but are really just archives on the inside. Active, updating sites retain members pretty well, but the dead sites will always be one and done.Sorta...Comment
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yep - but remember everybody has different traffic, solo site fans are fickle, especially the ones who are really part of the scene, they're always looking for the next girl, hopping from site to site - that's why I think some great free sites which surfers use as their source for brand new girls have poor rebills.
and the upsales - if a members area is dangling new girls in front of the member's face constantly well don't be surprised if he decides to join the new girl's site and cancel the one he has. solo girl site fans do stay members of multiple sites at the same time but there is a limit.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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The best solo sites rebill as well as anything on the web. A "personality" type following, exclusive content, 7 + updates a week and LOADS of customer interaction plus giving the customer exactly what he wants.See sig...Comment
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The problems with solo girl sites is a general problem to many niches on the Net.
Someone sees a niche that works, shoots some content and throws up a site. They don't see the real reason the original sites worked, don't see the ones that failed and just think it's about traffic.
For a solo girl site to retain they have to have a great girl who is prepared to work on the site, do updates and not be all over the Net. All of this costs a lot of money in models fees that few sites can afford. The girl has to be shot by different people who know what they're doing, the same person shooting her will start to replicate scenes and make the scenes clones of previous scenes. Different locations and scenarios are also a must. And don't shoot 5 scenes of her in a day, usually a girl tires after doing 2 scenes.
All this costs money that few can or will spend.
SGS's site is a good example of a site that works. Lady Sonia is a one off, top of her game and works hard. SGS knows what he's doing and gets the most out of her. All he needs is another shooter to help. I should be available by Xmas.
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Dead on Paul, throughoutThe problems with solo girl sites is a general problem to many niches on the Net.
Someone sees a niche that works, shoots some content and throws up a site. They don't see the real reason the original sites worked, don't see the ones that failed and just think it's about traffic.
For a solo girl site to retain they have to have a great girl who is prepared to work on the site, do updates and not be all over the Net. All of this costs a lot of money in models fees that few sites can afford. The girl has to be shot by different people who know what they're doing, the same person shooting her will start to replicate scenes and make the scenes clones of previous scenes. Different locations and scenarios are also a must. And don't shoot 5 scenes of her in a day, usually a girl tires after doing 2 scenes.
All this costs money that few can or will spend.
SGS's site is a good example of a site that works. Lady Sonia is a one off, top of her game and works hard. SGS knows what he's doing and gets the most out of her. All he needs is another shooter to help. I should be available by Xmas.
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usually people who are copycat types pay attention to one element of a successful thing and ignore the other things that make it great when they try to copy it. Happens a lot in pop music. There's a great hit and then 20 less cool copies come out on it's tails.
I try to focus on getting variance in our site's (Ivy Black) content across as wide a range of style (ie amateur, glamor, alternative) as we're capable of while maximizing our shooting time and limiting the cost. We don't always execute of course... For me it's also huge that we all like Ivy, so we can actively try to portray her individuality/personality and be happy doing it.Last edited by burntfilm; 07-18-2009, 10:11 PM.Sorta...Comment
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the girl who does "Undress Jess" seems to have something going there, a concept and a sense of individuality that might not appeal to everyone but is definitely intriguing with 24 hour live cams like the old voyeur sites. I can see that one retaining members well if it's for real.Sorta...Comment
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Our 3 main girls rebill like crazy. (www.ember-reigns.com , www.lovegisele.com, www.violeterotica.com )
And they're active.
Check out the links in the sig if you want some fresh stuff that's constantly updated. Feel free to contact me for anything related to our stuff.
You can see that they're active on their free, public forums: http://www.ember-reigns.com/forum - http://www.lovegisele.com/forum - http://www.violeterotica.com/forum
There are others, like www.janessabrazil.com who rebill well also.Comment
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yeah, there you go, Gisele and Janessa are definitely two newer active girls who seem to be busting their hot asses for their fans.Last edited by burntfilm; 07-18-2009, 10:31 PM.Sorta...Comment
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and as always everybody talks about how good their rebills are but won't do what I did
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i wont do anything but pps on solo girls now a days and thats if im bribed heavy to send traffic at all.
fuck.. solo.. girl.. sites..
im sorry.. ive just lost way to much $ over the years fucking with them.. models flake, get married, have a kid, get a tattoo, find god, never update.. all that and more and end result.. it costs me time and money.want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.Comment
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i'm sure the threadstarter would like to see - all affiliates would like to see the actual rebills sites they promote do.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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I think it really does depend on the site, program and girl. There are a ton of solo girl sites out there where the girls are very hot and the tour looks great so I would imagine they convert pretty well. Then you get inside and see that there are only about 20 movies and 30 picture sets and that is it. No updates, no live shows nothing.
The sad thing is it seems like for every girl that has a great site with a lot of content, live shows and plenty of updates there are 10-20 that just kind of suck.
I personally only do pps unless I know the site is really good and the girl is veri involved on the site.Comment
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Every solo girl site is going to operate differently which affects their retention.
The important part is they all have the same opportunity.
I started www.julie-clarke.com almost four years
ago and still have members rebilling from the launch day. That's four years of rebills
The site updates regularly and even though the model was never interactive, the site retains very well.Comment
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59% to 25%? wow ........... not really. those stats don't mean much as far as how good/bad your rebills are. what it shows is that since your sites are fairly new that you are making alot more new sales than rebills. on an older site the balance will shift and the % of transactions that are new sales will be lower than the % that are rebills.
the stat that does measure your rebill success accurately is the one I posted and can be found in CCBILL's Admin by clicking on 'Analysis' from the menu and then 'Conversions' - that will give you your actual rebill % on all transactions over whatever date range you choose. Older sites will do better with this stat as they can have members that are rebilling for a year and longer.I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!Comment
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