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  • Libertine
    sex dwarf
    • May 2002
    • 17860

    #101
    Originally posted by TheDoc
    No, 7% supported..the other almost half didn't have a clue. And of course "now" we can look back and see it was wrong, we aren't in a ice age or anything.
    71 total
    7 predicted cooling = 9.86%
    44 predicted warming = 61.97%
    20 were neutral = 28.17%

    I have no idea where you got the 7%, but either way, it's clear that the ones who predicted cooling were a small minority. Judging today's large majority of climate scientists by the views of a small minority some decades ago is stupid, plain and simple.

    Originally posted by TheDoc
    Exactly like today, other than today more money is paid to people and forced to publish whatever the 'payments' tell them.
    Again, it's nothing like today. Today, the theory in question isn't one only supported by a small minority. Today, the theory at hand is one supported by a large majority of scientists.

    Originally posted by TheDoc
    You missed the point... and again, it was going away, before "man" changed anything. And now, it's been proven as a cycle, and that the estimates given in the 90's were incorrect, it was not as big or bad as they "estimated."

    And even more so... when it takes 15-20 years to even see the effects "rise" to the upper atmospheres. Being so mathematically it should still be going on then... and it isn't.

    Come on... pull your head out of the dark cavern.
    It has not been proven as merely a cycle. And, in fact, it was about 20 years ago that a start was made in reducing CFC output. Recovery was expected to start around 2010, and that estimate is turning out to be fairly accurate.

    In case you feel like reading more:
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=ozone+layer

    Originally posted by TheDoc
    "aid that they thought human activity" <-- lots of thinking..

    "Approximately 5% of the respondents were climate scientists, and 8.5% of the respondents indicated that more than 50% of their peer-reviewed publications in the past 5 years have been on the subject of climate change."

    Wow... all 5% and 8.5% published info on climate change (which nobody is arguing) but it doesn't say, 8.5% on man made climate change.

    That's a "GREAT" bit of proof you just posted... So in reality, 3 were qualified to take the "poll."

    And, more than enough links have been posted on this thread and others, that say it isn't man made.


    Have you been drinking?

    3146 respondents, all of whom were earth scientists. 79 of those 3146 both listed climate science as their area of specialization and published more than half of their papers on the topic of climate change.

    I have no idea where you get the "3", but I am starting to suspect that your preferred method of doing math is smashing yourself in the head with a brick repeatedly, then randomly smashing your face into the numpad of your keyboard and seeing what shows up on your screen.

    In fact, after your numerous wildly inaccurate statements ("cows produce more co2 than humans", "one volcano releases more co2 into the atmosphere in a day than humans do in a year", etc) I am now realizing that it's entirely pointless to discuss this with you. You have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you're talking about. It's as if you're just wildly quoting things you vaguely remember hearing on tv half a decade ago.

    The sad thing, of course, is that that still puts you ahead of most of the other "skeptics" in this thread, most of whom more than likely failed high school science
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    • TheDoc
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Jul 2001
      • 13827

      #102
      Originally posted by Libertine
      71 total
      7 predicted cooling = 9.86%
      44 predicted warming = 61.97%
      20 were neutral = 28.17%

      I have no idea where you got the 7%, but either way, it's clear that the ones who predicted cooling were a small minority. Judging today's large majority of climate scientists by the views of a small minority some decades ago is stupid, plain and simple.



      Again, it's nothing like today. Today, the theory in question isn't one only supported by a small minority. Today, the theory at hand is one supported by a large majority of scientists.



      It has not been proven as merely a cycle. And, in fact, it was about 20 years ago that a start was made in reducing CFC output. Recovery was expected to start around 2010, and that estimate is turning out to be fairly accurate.

      In case you feel like reading more:
      http://www.sciencedaily.com/search/?keyword=ozone+layer





      Have you been drinking?

      3146 respondents, all of whom were earth scientists. 79 of those 3146 both listed climate science as their area of specialization and published more than half of their papers on the topic of climate change.

      I have no idea where you get the "3", but I am starting to suspect that your preferred method of doing math is smashing yourself in the head with a brick repeatedly, then randomly smashing your face into the numpad of your keyboard and seeing what shows up on your screen.

      In fact, after your numerous wildly inaccurate statements ("cows produce more co2 than humans", "one volcano releases more co2 into the atmosphere in a day than humans do in a year", etc) I am now realizing that it's entirely pointless to discuss this with you. You have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you're talking about. It's as if you're just wildly quoting things you vaguely remember hearing on tv half a decade ago.

      The sad thing, of course, is that that still puts you ahead of most of the other "skeptics" in this thread, most of whom more than likely failed high school science

      Clearly, you have no idea how statistics work.. and I just got the numbers from the pdf and the article posted. If you are confused, read them again.



      Funny though.. did you read the questions in the poll? Why don't they just ask a yes/no question?

      "Now, thinking specifically about the issue of global warming: Do you think most climate scientists agree that the earth has been warming in recent years, or do you think there is a lot of disagreement among climate scientists about whether the earth has been warming?"

      Most Agree 25%
      A Lot of Dis-agreement 39%
      Unsure 9%


      "Do you think most climate scientists agree that human activities, such as burning coal and oil, are a major cause of global warming, or do you think there is a lot of disagreement among climate scientists about whether human activities are a major cause?"

      Most Agree 47%
      A Lot of Dis-agreement 42%
      Unsure 11%



      47% agree... that's it.... Your "consensus" is busted. And why does the "no" answer have to be a disagreement question and an unsure?

      Why are the majority of questions about "global warming" vs. "man made" global warming?

      Clearly... the reason is to skew the results making the pdf, the poll, and your argument full of bullshit.
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      • Libertine
        sex dwarf
        • May 2002
        • 17860

        #103
        Originally posted by TheDoc
        Clearly, you have no idea how statistics work.. and I just got the numbers from the pdf and the article posted. If you are confused, read them again.

        Funny though.. did you read the questions in the poll? Why don't they just ask a yes/no question?

        "Now, thinking specifically about the issue of global warming: Do you think most climate scientists agree that the earth has been warming in recent years, or do you think there is a lot of disagreement among climate scientists about whether the earth has been warming?"

        Most Agree 25%
        A Lot of Dis-agreement 39%
        Unsure 9%

        "Do you think most climate scientists agree that human activities, such as burning coal and oil, are a major cause of global warming, or do you think there is a lot of disagreement among climate scientists about whether human activities are a major cause?"

        Most Agree 47%
        A Lot of Dis-agreement 42%
        Unsure 11%

        47% agree... that's it.... Your "consensus" is busted. And why does the "no" answer have to be a disagreement question and an unsure?

        Why are the majority of questions about "global warming" vs. "man made" global warming?

        Clearly... the reason is to skew the results making the pdf, the poll, and your argument full of bullshit.
        Congratulations.

        In another clueless move, you have now confused the poll with another one, done by other people, for Newsweek magazine. The respondents in the one you just quoted aren't actually scientists - they're the general public.

        You didn't actually read beyond the first paragraph of the pdf, did you?
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        • papagmp
          Confirmed User
          • Mar 2008
          • 618

          #104
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          • Dirty Dane
            Sick Fuck
            • Feb 2004
            • 9491

            #105
            Originally posted by TheDoc
            We would have a lot more of all animals, fish, birds, etc without humans. That is without question.

            I know exactly how co2 works. It's naturally produced and naturally cycled by plants, water, and dirt. Just like upper air above the oil/coal burning centers don't have higher co2 than the air over the ocean. co2 is not why LA is warmer.

            It's going to get 15-20 degrees warmer, even if humans never produced a particle extra of co2.
            We would have more animals overall, yes, but I do not think there would have been more cows without humans. They are protected from pretadors today by humans. The amount today is therefor a concern regarding methan emissions, and at the same time we make room for it by reducing CO2 absorbing trees and plants.

            It is not local CO2 emissions and weather, like in LA, that is the problem. It is the global emissions and its feedback effects over the longer climate periods. And if it gets 20 degrees warmer or colder 20 thousands years from now, is irrelevant, don't you think?

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            • gleem
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2001
              • 5593

              #106
              the whole thing is idiotic.

              Proof. My friend is a scientist, he wanted a grant to study frogs. So he came up with an idiotic theory about global warming killing frogs, 1 year later he has a huge grant. He told me all his peers are doing the same to get money to do whatever they want, as long as they add the keyword "climate change" to the thesis.

              How many scientists that usually get all their money from grants, gonna stand up and give an opposing opinion and lose their money??

              It's just a new form of religion, the worst kind, government sponsored religion. Control the sheeple. Scare them with boogiemen (terrorist, climate change, landfills) and get them to do what you want (pay more taxes, become dependent, become docile)

              "Global scientific consensus" came out of their mouths and I knew it was a huge pile of bullshit. Carbon tax came out and I knew we were all in alot of trouble.
              Last edited by gleem; 07-15-2009, 01:03 PM.




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              • thinkhype
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2006
                • 519

                #107
                For those who haven't checked it out already, strongly suggest to watch Home.

                http://www.youtube.com/homeproject

                We got lot's more to do before stopping reading shit on the net lol

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