With all these Anti-IBill threads over the past few weeks, isn't it funny...

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  • jmcb420
    So Fucking Drunk
    • Oct 2006
    • 2155

    #1

    With all these Anti-IBill threads over the past few weeks, isn't it funny...

    That no one from IBill has really jumped into one of them and defended thier company?


    Think its because they fear GFY webmasters and program owners?

    Or..

    Do you think it's because they simply don't care about GFY webmasters and program owners?
    56
    They fear GFY.
    0%
    15
    They dont care about GFY.
    0%
    35
    I live under a rock, who's IBill?
    0%
    6
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  • Tanker
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    • Nov 2000
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    #2
    I dont think they care!

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    • jmcb420
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      • Oct 2006
      • 2155

      #3
      Originally posted by Tanker
      I dont think they care!
      thats what I'm thinking.

      there must be a pool of suckers somewhere, but not here.
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      • MsCheyenne
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2005
        • 412

        #4
        When they re-opened their doors, I called and go the owner on the phone. He explained why they do not owe previous Ibill clients the money that was stolen from them. When I said, "Wow. Isn't using the Ibill name a death sentence?" He said, "Quite the opposite. It has done very well for us."

        Ibills are liars. We all know that. Maybe they are doing well. Maybe they aren't. One thing is for sure. They cannot post here and have a public debate. They will only lose the debate. Anything they say aside from "We will send everyone their hard earned money" will only make things worse for them...at least here.

        Cheyenne

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        • seeandsee
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          #5
          i really don;t know why they used that name
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          • Miguel T
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            • May 2005
            • 12470

            #6
            They really don't care.

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            • lagcam
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              • Jul 2007
              • 2890

              #7
              They don't reply because there is nothing that they can say that they haven't already said already and have been shot down for, and that is that they claim they are not responsible for the debts of their previous incarnation.

              The question for me is how did these people acquire the "ibill" name they are using?

              I am not familiar with US insolvency law, but I worked in this field in the UK many years ago where when a business fails it is officially "wound up" or "liquidated" and any cash held in accounts of the company, any debts owed to the company and the proceeds of the sale of any assets (which would include physical properties, cars. domain name, trademarks etc as well as furniture equipment etc), would be totalled up and then distributed in order of their ranking. First of course would be the liquidation fees, then I believe any secured creditors, (then in UK) something called preferential creditors (which are government taxes etc, and then lastly UNSECURED CREDITORS....all the people who are posting in these threads, who will rarely if ever get anything but sometimes may get a few cents in the dollar if they prove and registered their claim and if funds permitted.

              So what somebody needs to do here if they are owed money is:

              1. Look into the liquidation of ibill.
              2. Ask a lawyer for an interpretation of their position based on that liquidation and the incorporation of the new ibill, and to find if there ANY LEGITIMATE GROUNDS WHATSOEVER for an action against the current ibill. If enough parties joined together the cost of establishing this basic fact would probably not be huge, in fact I am sure some have already done this.

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              • CyberHustler
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                • Feb 2006
                • 28827

                #8
                GFY is not the center of the universe. Maybe they don't even know this site exists?
                “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                • baddog
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                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CyberHustler
                  GFY is not the center of the universe. Maybe they don't even know this site exists?
                  Hope that was supposed to be a joke.

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                  • lagcam
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                    • Jul 2007
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by CyberHustler
                    GFY is not the center of the universe. Maybe they don't even know this site exists?
                    They STARTED one of the fucking threads !!
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                    • borked
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                      • Feb 2005
                      • 6284

                      #11
                      OK, I'm being naïve cos this kind of doesn't involve me, but if iBill (the rogues) went under and were liquidated, and part of that liquidation was selling of the domain name, then why does the new iBill have to answer/pay debts under the old iBill name?

                      Or is there something more sinister at work here (sorry only followed those ibill threads briefly at the beginning)

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                      • CyberHustler
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 28827

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lagcam
                        They STARTED one of the fucking threads !!
                        Oh... my fault then.
                        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                        • CyberHustler
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 28827

                          #13
                          Originally posted by baddog
                          Hope that was supposed to be a joke.
                          Nope, I'm not the ibill expert.
                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                          • lagcam
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                            • Jul 2007
                            • 2890

                            #14
                            Originally posted by CyberHustler
                            Nope, I'm not the ibill expert.
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                            • WiredGuy
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                              • Aug 2002
                              • 34517

                              #15
                              What were you expecting them to do? Start a pissing match? If they were baited into trying to defend themselves they'd need more staff just to post here. They made it clear they're back (or new) in business and that's probably all they'll do for public relations.
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                              • Machete_
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                                • Oct 2002
                                • 14579

                                #16
                                They took the LegandaryLars Public relations course

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                                • CyberHustler
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                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 28827

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by lagcam
                                  I love that girl in your avatar CyberHustler, who is she?
                                  A singer named Cassie (Cassie Ventura)
                                  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                  • lagcam
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                                    #18
                                    Thanks...I am off to google.
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                                    • jmcb420
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                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 2155

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                      What were you expecting them to do? Start a pissing match? If they were baited into trying to defend themselves they'd need more staff just to post here. They made it clear they're back (or new) in business and that's probably all they'll do for public relations.
                                      WG
                                      You make a damn fine point, but I was honestly expecting that they would stay gone, WG.
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                                      • jmcb420
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                                        • Oct 2006
                                        • 2155

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lagcam
                                        Thanks...I am off to google.
                                        dont bother, search GFY. Theres a bunch of shit on that company in here.
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                                        • candyflip
                                          Carpe Visio
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 43074

                                          #21
                                          IF they purchased the name in liquidation I don't see them owing anyone (including myself) any money. Unless of course there's some other link, but if it is what has been said it is, they don't owe anyone.

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                                          • baddog
                                            So Fucking Banned
                                            • Apr 2001
                                            • 107089

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                            Nope, I'm not the ibill expert.
                                            You seriously think there is the remote possibility of a processor, that does adult, being unaware of GFY?

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                                            • CyberHustler
                                              Masterbaiter
                                              • Feb 2006
                                              • 28827

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                              You seriously think there is the remote possibility of a processor, that does adult, being unaware of GFY?
                                              I don't know dude, aren't they claiming to be new? Do all new adult billing processors automatically get a GFY "welcome to the adult business, please join our forum" card signed by baddog? If so, I was unaware homie.
                                              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                              • iTouch!
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                                                #24
                                                lolololol

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                                                • DWB
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                                                  • Jul 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  I'm curious how many Bros step up at a later date and pics start flying around of people with the "stand up" Ibill crew at the shows or parties. You know its only a matter of time.

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                                                  • MsCheyenne
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                                                    • Mar 2005
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by borked
                                                    OK, I'm being naïve cos this kind of doesn't involve me, but if iBill (the rogues) went under and were liquidated, and part of that liquidation was selling of the domain name, then why does the new iBill have to answer/pay debts under the old iBill name?

                                                    Or is there something more sinister at work here (sorry only followed those ibill threads briefly at the beginning)
                                                    The "new Ibill" is owned and operated by the "old Ibill" executives, including one of the orginal founders. This has certainly lead to the belief that there is something sinister at work.

                                                    Cheyenne

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                                                    • jmcb420
                                                      So Fucking Drunk
                                                      • Oct 2006
                                                      • 2155

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      You seriously think there is the remote possibility of a processor, that does adult, being unaware of GFY?
                                                      Abso-fucking-lutely not a snowballs chance in hell.

                                                      Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                      I don't know dude, aren't they claiming to be new? Do all new adult billing processors automatically get a GFY "welcome to the adult business, please join our forum" card signed by baddog? If so, I was unaware homie.
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                                                      I'm not getting shitty with you, CH. But with a feb 2006 join date, and 12,195 posts, you should know as much about ibill as you do the girl in your avatar.
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                                                      • jmcb420
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                                                        • Oct 2006
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                        I'm curious how many Bros step up at a later date and pics start flying around of people with the "stand up" Ibill crew at the shows or parties. You know its only a matter of time.
                                                        Being very careful to watch what I say, I agree with you 100% DWB. That will happen after ibill quietly, and out of public view, pays what they owe or some of what they owe to a few "bigger" proggies.

                                                        Then the beers will flow.........

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                                                        • CyberHustler
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                                                          • Feb 2006
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                          CyberHustler
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                                                          I'm not getting shitty with you, CH. But with a feb 2006 join date, and 12,195 posts, you should know as much about ibill as you do the girl in your avatar.
                                                          What's that supposed to mean? So, because I have a February 2006 join date I'm supposed to magically know everything about these new people using an old company's name? I'm supposed telepathically know that they should automatically know that GFY exists just because they do adult billing? I wonder what powers those people with 2001 join dates have, shit I should already know since my 2006 join date gave me psychic abilities. I gotta go practice... brb. Edit: Wait, first ima smoke a blunt, then practice...
                                                          Last edited by CyberHustler; 07-11-2009, 02:37 PM.
                                                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                          • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                            What's that supposed to mean? So, because I have a February 2006 join date I'm supposed to magically know everything about these new people using an old company's name? I'm supposed telepathically know that they should automatically know that GFY exists just because they do adult billing? I wonder what powers those people with 2001 join dates have, shit I should already know since my 2006 join date gave me psychic abilities. I gotta go practice... brb. Edit: Wait, first ima smoke a blunt, then practice...
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                                                            • CyberHustler
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                                                              • Feb 2006
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                                              Anyone interested in learning about IBILL and there history of lies, false promises, theft, fraud etc. Can click this link IBALLS UP when on this site click on a few of the links, top right. Some great reading if you have time
                                                              Quick question, are these the same guys? Or a new group of people using the same name?
                                                              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                              • lagcam
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                                                                • Jul 2007
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                                                                #32
                                                                jmcb420 you can forgive cyberhustler for not being the ibill authority that you clearly think you are. He even apologised for it.


                                                                You have to understand that sometimes people don't read EVERY thread on GFY or even every post in a particular thread that they are interested in and make polls about, as you clearly didn't in the ibill thread that THEY THEMSELVES started and initially defended themselves until they realised it was as futile as trying to piss in the wind and not damaging your white trousers.
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                                                                • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                                  Quick question, are these the same guys? Or a new group of people using the same name?
                                                                  Two of the original people started IBILL up again. One was / is a programmer the other was upper management.
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                                                                  • jmcb420
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                                                                    • Oct 2006
                                                                    • 2155

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                    jmcb420 you can forgive cyberhustler for not being the ibill authority that you clearly think you are. He even apologised for it.


                                                                    You have to understand that sometimes people don't read EVERY thread on GFY or even every post in a particular thread that they are interested in and make polls about, as you clearly didn't in the ibill thread that THEY THEMSELVES started and initially defended themselves until they realised it was as futile as trying to piss in the wind and not damaging your white trousers.
                                                                    Actually I did, right here post #80. I shared an experience I had with a banking institution that changed names and management when I owed them money and urged other users to seek legal advise if possible, because of my own experience.

                                                                    Alas, I am not an IBill authority, and never claimed to be so I dont understand where you are coming up with that. Please forgive me for being curious about other peoples feelings on the situation. It wont happen again.

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                                                                    Cyber Hustler, F-U-Jimmy posted a link in this thread. Check it out man. Good, solid no bullshit info. And no, a 2006 join date does not give you E.S.P., but the 2001 join dates can all fly and catch bullets in thier teeth.

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                                                                    • SilentKnight
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                                                                      • Oct 2005
                                                                      • 24812

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by F-U-Jimmy
                                                                      Anyone interested in learning about IBILL and there history of lies, false promises, theft, fraud etc. Can click this link IBALLS UP when on this site click on a few of the links, top right. Some great reading if you have time
                                                                      I'm curious - on that ibill-sucks.com link - there's a link titled "iBill alternatives" - which goes to a First Data merchant page.

                                                                      Although I know iBill is guilty as hell of ripping us all off - but do we know whether First Data was completely innocent? We know they cancelled iBill's merchant account, but did they also owe iBill money at the time? I recall iBill execs claiming they never received monies owing from First Data back when shit hit the fan.

                                                                      Or was that simply another in a littany of iBill excuses?

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                                                                      • CyberHustler
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                                                                        • Feb 2006
                                                                        • 28827

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                                        2001 join dates can all fly and catch bullets in thier teeth.
                                                                        Know anybody selling those for cheap?
                                                                        “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                        • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by SilentKnight
                                                                          I'm curious - on that ibill-sucks.com link - there's a link titled "iBill alternatives" - which goes to a First Data merchant page.

                                                                          Although I know iBill is guilty as hell of ripping us all off - but do we know whether First Data was completely innocent? We know they cancelled iBill's merchant account, but did they also owe iBill money at the time? I recall iBill execs claiming they never received monies owing from First Data back when shit hit the fan.

                                                                          Or was that simply another in a littany of iBill excuses?
                                                                          At the time all i could get little out of First Data, was that they had the right to withhold IBILLs payments for a period of 6 months. Im sure If it was due to Ibail it would have been paid. Personally i think Ibail keep all the monies due to webmasters, but to be on the safe side i closed all my own merchant accounts that i had with First Data through Card Service International. And opened them up with another company
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                                                                          • jmcb420
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                                                                            • Oct 2006
                                                                            • 2155

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                                            Know anybody selling those for cheap?
                                                                            That would be nice huh? I cant imagine ever having to catch a bullet in my teeth, but flying would be pretty cool, and I could save alot of money on gas.
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                                                                            • MsCheyenne
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by jmcb420
                                                                              That no one from IBill has really jumped into one of them and defended thier company?


                                                                              Think its because they fear GFY webmasters and program owners?

                                                                              Or..

                                                                              Do you think it's because they simply don't care about GFY webmasters and program owners?
                                                                              Ibill will take every new webmaster they can. They stole millions of dollars from their clients and now they show up at an expo with custom painted limos? Ibill is like Enron for the adult business. In the mainstream business world, they would never be getting by with this. Do not be a fool.

                                                                              http://www.ibill-sucks.com/

                                                                              Cheyenne

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                                                                              • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                                                                Ibill will take every new webmaster they can. They stole millions of dollars from their clients and now they show up at an expo with custom painted limos? Ibill is like Enron for the adult business. In the mainstream business world, they would never be getting by with this. Do not be a fool.

                                                                                http://www.ibill-sucks.com/

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                                                                                • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                                                                  Ibill will take every new webmaster they can. They stole millions of dollars from their clients and now they show up at an expo with custom painted limos? Ibill is like Enron for the adult business. In the mainstream business world, they would never be getting by with this. Do not be a fool.

                                                                                  http://www.ibill-sucks.com/

                                                                                  Cheyenne
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                                                                                  • JFK
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                                                    i really don;t know why they used that name
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                                                                                    • topnotch, standup guy
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                                                      What's that supposed to mean? So, because I have a February 2006 join date I'm supposed to magically know everything about these new people using an old company's name? I'm supposed telepathically know that they should automatically know that GFY exists just because they do adult billing?

                                                                                      Blah, blah, blah...
                                                                                      What the man was trying to tell you is that you should have a clue.

                                                                                      Clearly you don't
                                                                                      A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                                      • topnotch, standup guy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by lagcam
                                                                                        jmcb420 you can forgive cyberhustler for not being the ibill authority that you clearly think you are. He even apologised for it.


                                                                                        You have to understand that sometimes people don't read EVERY thread on GFY or even every post in a particular thread that they are interested in and make polls about, as you clearly didn't in the ibill thread that THEY THEMSELVES started and initially defended themselves until they realised it was as futile as trying to piss in the wind and not damaging your white trousers.
                                                                                        We are talking here about a billing company that ripped off adult webmasters (including many of the ones here) for millions of dollars five short years ago.

                                                                                        Somehow I don't think it's really necessary to "read EVERY thread on GFY" to have a clue about iBill
                                                                                        A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                                        • ParlourCash Karl
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                                                                          Ibill will take every new webmaster they can. They stole millions of dollars from their clients and now they show up at an expo with custom painted limos? Ibill is like Enron for the adult business. In the mainstream business world, they would never be getting by with this. Do not be a fool.

                                                                                          http://www.ibill-sucks.com/

                                                                                          Cheyenne
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                                                                                          • DateDoc
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                                                                            Ibill will take every new webmaster they can. They stole millions of dollars from their clients and now they show up at an expo with custom painted limos? Ibill is like Enron for the adult business. In the mainstream business world, they would never be getting by with this. Do not be a fool.

                                                                                            http://www.ibill-sucks.com/

                                                                                            Cheyenne
                                                                                            That is great - you said in mainstream business iBill would not get away with this and also compared them to Enron. Enron fooled the entire financial markets for years and years way more so than iBill fooled anyone. So yes, it can happen in mainstream too.

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                                                                                            • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Bump
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                                                                                                  • F-U-Jimmy
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2006
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