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Haha. Americans... they simply can't come to terms with the radical concept that people outside the US might know what is going on. Unless you live in the US you are a completely clueless, uneducated and politically blind peon.
So according to you everything is ok now, everything was fixed and the economy is repaired. Good to know
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poor senile, old fool. here's your first post. nothing but insults:
you're a shit stain in this business and certainly not bright enough to have a reasonable conversation with.
your lack of self awareness is stunning.I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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I'm proudly anti-Obama when it comes to policy, Obama's policies are bad for America. That said the spending in the stimulus I don't think is done with a political calculus in mind. Early spending of course benefits Obama supporters and counties because they're already in government databases and have had contracts/grants in the past. It's just easier to land projects and/or funds if you've been through the process before.
Had John McCain won and a stimulus like Obama's was passed (just like Obama's), Obama counties would now be getting the majority of the funds just as they are now. Obama counties often rely on government handouts, that's why they're often the places people are trying to move out of; for instance Wayne County and Detroit in my state.Comment
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Just read your site
Your vast knowledge of the industry huh......hahahahaha
from the bottom of your site
Copyright 12clickscash.com 2006 all rights reserved
All that vast knowledge from your 3 years running 12 clicks
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Here you go captain brilliance. Not sure if you can read, but it's all out there in the open. You don't have to go to FOX news to get your information anymore.
http://www.recovery.gov/Comment
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Apparently you can't read because I defended Obama in what you quoted, Captain Dumb Shit. Btw, is that the website that is getting that 19 million dollar re-design, and a contract landed by the Democrat Majority Leader Steny Hoyer's supporter? Will Recovery.gov tell me all that? Will Recovery.gov tell me the phone calls that were made by Democrats to land such contracts for a friends wasting our tax dollars? I doubt it.Comment
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And all those stuffed-shirt republicans who voted for McCain voted for him out of genuine faith that he was the best choice for america? Please.
Also, the thread title: "Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08"
No Shit. I thought for sure he would give a bunch of cash to people who didnt vote for him so they would like him better. Because thats what being the Pres is all about right? Making friends?
If McCain won I presume the title would have been: "Billions in aid go to areas that backed McCain in '08" But you wouldn't have posted that.
I'm sure you are smart enough to get how it works. If you want real change, vote Ron Paul next time.I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.Comment
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12 clicks proudly using his vast knowledge since 2006
Now that is a great tag line.Comment
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I'm funner than AIDS, and easier to explain to your parents.Comment
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Your own argument proves my point, dumbass. The states that didn't have stupid arguments over the stimulus cash and didn't sit on their thumbs over ideology got a headstart on getting projects approved. Maybe one day you will actually learn to use your head for thinking.in fact, you're so unintelligent, I feel the need to help you.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/...ford.stimulus/
"""South Carolina's Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Gov. Mark Sanford must accept $700 million in federal stimulus money, ending the only formal effort by a governor to reject funding intended to jump-start an ailing economy."""
you kids are so out of your league.Comment
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Arguing with a troll is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.Comment
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Sanford will also be the only Governor this year to get sacked :in fact, you're so unintelligent, I feel the need to help you.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/...ford.stimulus/
"""South Carolina's Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Gov. Mark Sanford must accept $700 million in federal stimulus money, ending the only formal effort by a governor to reject funding intended to jump-start an ailing economy."""
you kids are so out of your league.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uSNwjJaPAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OyjXE7OhSk
2 Republicans Governors going out because of their own actions and not Obama's.
Palin's voice and method of speaking in that video is quite irritating to say the least.Last edited by sortie; 07-11-2009, 09:18 AM.
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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isnt there suppose to be a website that shows where all this money is going?9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions!
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Yes, recovery.gov
This thread is about as stupid an argument as I've seen 12dicks make, and he's made some really stupid ones before.
A statistically insignificant amount of the stimulus has been tracked and by sheer coincidence more money has gone to congressional districts that Obama won, and somehow Mr Pompous Ass seems to think that's proof that Obama voters wanted a handout and are now getting one.
I love this whole "this generation wants a handout that's paid for by taxing the rich and that's 'quite a shift in mindset from previous generations'."
I guess he conveniently forgot that from 1933 until 1980 the "rich" in this country paid a marginal tax rate that was at least twice has high as the one he's currently paying, and they paid more under Reagan than the rates that Obama is proposing.
He's just a sore loser who is pissed off that Obama won and is now going to take away his offshore tax shelters and raise his marginal rates. So every once in awhile he takes to insulting the people who voted for and support Obama, I guess it makes him feel better.
I'm sure he'll be back to fling some "rabble" "loser" "look up your nose" shit at me.
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Hahaha, poor little snake boy.
I can't wait until the pigeons you voted for come home to roost.
You're not bright enough to realize that the government could confiscate ALL the money of your betters and it wouldn't come close to paying for obamas spending.
Only THEN will you realize how easily you were duped.
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I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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ANYTHING that drives repugs to the brink of insanity is ok in my book. These anti-american fucks had no problem with Bush spying on its own citizens, invading countries based on lies, outing CIA agents and the list goes on and on. They are the cancer of this country, fuck them all.Comment
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I had to interject a little reality into this thread, but check out this site.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
It shows the ratio of tax dollars collected to actual federal funds spent per state (albeit it is only up to 2005) so you can see a state like Louisiana gets $1.78 from the federal government for ever $1.00 in federal taxes collected by the government from that state.
So play a fun little game. Pick the red state of your choice. The McCain and republican states. The states that don't rely on government handouts because they are filled with good conservatives who are all about fiscal responsibility and what will you find? Most of them get back more than they put in. But when you look at the blue liberal states what do you see? Many of them get back less than they pay in. I'm sure that doesn't mean that the blue states have been supporting the red. It must just be a misunderstanding.
I'm sure that the fact that when you look at the list and see that in the top 20 only three blue states (and Virginia being one of them was red until this last election) appear is just a glitch in the system.
It seems to me that these red states have been living on handouts for a long time.
Don't mistake this for me endorsing all of Obama's spending, I'm just pointing out that saying Obama states are living on handouts is a little off.Last edited by kane; 07-11-2009, 12:57 PM.Comment
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I fail to see what makes someone with an extremely mediocre affiliate program and shitty attitude anyone else's "better".Hahaha, poor little snake boy.
I can't wait until the pigeons you voted for come home to roost.
You're not bright enough to realize that the government could confiscate ALL the money of your betters and it wouldn't come close to paying for obamas spending.
Only THEN will you realize how easily you were duped.:
I am wondering if you would still feel like you were better than someone else if they forced you to shove a giant dildo up your ass at gunpoint and shot you in the head. I think it would mean you were just a dead fuck with a dildo in your ass.
What? Do you have extra floral fragrance shitstains in your underwear or something? What exactly make you think you are better than anyone else? Personally, I think you are a piss ant with shit for brains.Comment
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How dare you bring things like statistics, facts, and logic into a discussion with 12clicks? Rabble!!!!!
Logic, facts, and statistics have no place in these discussions. The only thing that matters is that 12clicks is better than you, and you are an idiot if you don't agree with him.
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First of all, if you're going to accuse someone of a lack of intelligence, the least you could do is use proper grammar when doing so.
Now, as for your statement....
Wrong again you pompous ass. This thread is about you being a sore loser. The article you decided to use for your fodder to start the thread and the specific details are irrelevant.
IF the counties were really what the thread was about, you would have left it alone a long time ago, after it was pointed out to you that 2% of the stimulus that has been tracked so far is a statistically insignificant sample size to draw any conclusions about where the money is being spent. Unless of course you're willing to admit that you don't understand statistics and sample sizes and basic math.
This thread was never about counties or even the article, it's about poor 12clicks not getting his way in the last election.
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Ok snake boy, this thread is about what you say it is.
I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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Oh snap! You used the same sorry old attempt at an insult on me that you use on everyone because you lack the intelligence to come up with anything new! Here is a tip... if you want to insult someone... you can usually do alot better by using some semblance of fact in your insult.
I happen to live in my own house... a 2600 square foot, 4 bedroom, 3 full bath home about 25 miles north of Charlotte, NC. and I own another house in Michigan... who knew??!!
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Ahahaha.Oh snap! You used the same sorry old attempt at an insult on me that you use on everyone because you lack the intelligence to come up with anything new! Here is a tip... if you want to insult someone... you can usually do alot better by using some semblance of fact in your insult.
I happen to live in my own house... a 2600 square foot, 4 bedroom, 3 full bath home about 25 miles north of Charlotte, NC. and I own another house in Michigan... who knew??!!
On so many levelsI'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.Comment
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I'm counting 32 states getting more back according to that link with 60% of the states having Democrat Governors, 19 of them if I counted correctly and without checking the numbers on state legislatures; yet I know this to be the case the majority of those states have Democratic controlled legislatures. I would think in order to get a clear picture you would factor in the chief executive of a state and who controls the legislatures of a state too. West Virginia for instance voted McCain, perhaps on clean coal reasons, but still has a Democrat controlled state with extremely corrupt politicians who thrive on securing earmarks and pet projects, something I want the federal government to get rid of entirely. Numbers like Louisiana and Mississippi in 2005 would of had Hurricane Katrina spending in there; ND had flooding in that time too if I remember right so it too had increased farm and natural disaster costs, so without excising certain spending (military, farm, and natural disasters) your link wouldn't provide an accurate picture of non discretionary spending or federal mandate induced spending in which I thought the subject of the spending in the stimulus is predominately supposed to be spent outside of the stimulus' payroll tax breaks.
Non discretionary grants and funds will go to Obama counties more because as I said above they in the past have already got government funding in this way. They know how to get this kind of money from the government. Had John McCain been elected the numbers would have been the same and like I said above and I thought I made clear; I don't think Barak Obama is rewarding this funding politically as to how counties voted.Comment
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12dicks is such a fucking joke. The guy cant ever possibly piece together more than 2 posts. Someone replies to him and all the stupid fuck can say is something about someone's mom or call them son.
You're a fucking wanker man.Comment
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There is this one too
http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
It shows the same information yearly from 1985-2005.
Many of the red states have been getting more back than they put in for 20 years. Sure Louisiana got Katrina funds and Mississippi as well. That would explain 2005, but not the last 20 years.
I guess my point here is that for years and years there are parts of the country that are not "Obama" counties have been getting larger than normal amounts of federal money. It is not just the liberals sucking off the government teet.Comment
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It's a one page summary of a huge federal budget including military spending. It can not paint an accurate picture. For instance look at Delaware a state where corporations go and headquarter because it's tax friendly to them at the state level; now go and look at Delaware's federal receipts and what they get and consider the numbers now. A one page summary can not in my opinion tell much of a story. Without specific breakdowns and without striking the military spending I just don't know how you can have any kind of baseline for the numbers. Since you mentioned Virginia they would have more Veteran Affairs spending because veterans often stay and retire in Virginia; do all states have similar numbers of veterans or that kind of spending in their baseline? I just don't think your links paint a picture when it comes to non discretionary spending and the original topic.
We disagree right now but I do honestly appreciate you making me think. The best way I learn anything in life is to be intelligently challenged.
http://deanesmay.com/2008/11/19/red-state-welfare/
I found reading the comments in that link interesting too Kane. I-80 is a good example of what I was trying to raise, but you sure did indeed bring up a interesting subject.Comment
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For sure there are a lot of considerations to take when you look at numbers that are a broad base.
I guess my point in all of this is that you said, "Obama counties often rely on government handouts, that's why they're often the places people are trying to move out of; for instance Wayne County and Detroit in my state."
I was just trying to point out that it wasn't just Obama counties that rely on the handouts, there are a lot of counties that are strong republican and get plenty of handouts.
That article has some interesting comments for sure. I agree that often people with more money tend to vote republican while poorer people tend to vote democrat. So it makes sense when there are government programs that give money/food or any form of entitlement out it is going to be someone who is poorer getting them and often those people are more democrat than republican.
I grew up in a small very redneck and republican town. Most of the people in that town were pretty poor and most of them were also republicans. The town had 1500 people and there were 12 churches. These were mostly social conservative republicans because they were/are pro-life, pro-gun, pro-death penalty, but many of them were on food stamps, welfare and housing subsidies. It was a strange mix. It was actually strange to me to hear people who were on welfare preaching about personal responsibility and taking care of their own.Comment
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