Court rules against German file-sharing site Finds Rapidshare.com violates copyright

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  • notime
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    • Jun 2003
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    #1

    Court rules against German file-sharing site Finds Rapidshare.com violates copyright

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...eafd877858b3a1
    "A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

    And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
    http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
    If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
    Italy is considering doing something similar.
  • seeandsee
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    #2
    Originally posted by notime
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...eafd877858b3a1
    "A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

    And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
    http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
    If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
    Italy is considering doing something similar.
    Illegal shoud be illegal :D
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    • Barefootsies
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      #3
      cue gideongallery in...

      5.....4.....3....
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      • MaDalton
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        #4
        isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
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        • SilentKnight
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          • Oct 2005
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          #5
          Long overdue.

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          • sweetcuties
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            #6
            Just a matter of time before shit changes for the better, then adult will be back to being profitable

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            • SteveHardeman
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              #7
              Excellent.

              Thanks for the info.

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              • DateDoc
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                • Feb 2005
                • 14243

                #8
                There is quite a bit of disparity as to whether there is a fine or not. Other sites are reporting - A German court has sided with copyright society GEMA against free file-hosting service Rapidshare, which must now monitor its site to ensure that some 5,000 songs are not posted for distribution on its servers.

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                • Kevin Marx
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                  #9
                  But your honor. I was only timehshifting my right to view. I swear!!!
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                  • HomerSimpson
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                    • PastorSinAlot
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                      #11
                      things will never be back the same, wake the funk up. People only going to pay for unique or OG shit

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                      • notime
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                        • Jun 2003
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                        isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
                        I have no idea where they are Stefan. Just posting the latest news intel from newspapers.

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                        • Itchy
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                          • Jan 2001
                          • 6525

                          #13
                          Originally posted by notime
                          http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...eafd877858b3a1
                          "A German state court on Tuesday found file-sharing site Rapidshare.com guilty of violation of German copyright law and set damages at about ?24 million ($34 million)"

                          And piratebay has a semi-government Dutch organisation suing them:
                          http://www.thelocal.se/20244/20090624/
                          If they win, all Dutch ISP's must block their url.
                          Italy is considering doing something similar.
                          Thats great news!!


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                          • Socks
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                            #14
                            "In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers. "

                            The floodgates may have opened in Germany. France, Italy and Spain are probably going to be next. Once a few big countries get involved and set a precedent, there will be more to follow.

                            The US has been urging Spain to do the three strikes thing - even though they don't even have it in the US.

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                            • Socks
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                              #15
                              I just inquired and if people try to get around an ISP ban using a proxy server, ALL the data you download actually gets passed through the proxy.. It has to download it, then upload it to you.. Twice the bandwidth on their part.. And so there will be no free proxy servers just based on costs.. So then you're looking at huge paid proxy services popping up from hosting companies I imagine.

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                              • Barefootsies
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                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Socks
                                "In what could prove a key precedent, the court found Rapidshare, and by extension similar file-sharing sites, bear principle responsibility for ensuring copyright-protected material is not illegally posted on their servers. "

                                The floodgates may have opened in Germany. France, Italy and Spain are probably going to be next. Once a few big countries get involved and set a precedent, there will be more to follow.

                                The US has been urging Spain to do the three strikes thing - even though they don't even have it in the US.
                                au contraire mo'fraire. gideongallery begs to differ.
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                                  #17
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                                  • Robbie
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                    cue gideongallery in...

                                    5.....4.....3....
                                    Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

                                    I'll handle this for him:

                                    <gideongallery>
                                    This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
                                    The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
                                    So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
                                    Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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                                    • gideongallery
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                      cue gideongallery in...

                                      5.....4.....3....
                                      you do realize that my name is a b oardtracker alert
                                      so you just basically called me to this thread

                                      anyway rapidshare makes the file completely available so grokster ruling applys
                                      the transaction they are support always has 1 infringement (sharing) even if the downloading is protected by fair use.

                                      torrents however are different because you don't share a complete file
                                      doesn't mean that the transaction is always non infringing just that it can be.

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                                      • woj
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Robbie
                                        Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

                                        I'll handle this for him:

                                        <gideongallery>
                                        This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
                                        The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
                                        So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
                                        Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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                                        • notime
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                          au contraire mo'fraire. gideongallery begs to differ.
                                          Au contraire mon Fraire.

                                          Laywer talk French & latin stuff they just adore.

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                                          • MaDalton
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                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 39861

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by notime
                                            I have no idea where they are Stefan. Just posting the latest news intel from newspapers.
                                            http://www.hrazg.ch/webservices/inet...&lang=1&sort=0

                                            here they are - 2 german guys
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                                            • notime
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                              Like you, I pay my taxes, my suppliers, my staff, my rent, etc.
                                              I wish everybody would do that because the ones that don't do kill jobs/economy/the system.

                                              Taxes in Holland will be lowered soon(!). Do you know why? They found & seized SO MUCH hidden money in offshore countries from Dutch people due to the latest tax treaties and revealing of bank secrets, that too much money is coming in. Go figure.

                                              Looks like the old saying is becoming a reality; "You can run but you cannot hide".

                                              Governments and laws are just starting to catch up with all the online tech stuff and that is going to be a new oppertunity for some and a downfall for others.

                                              I truly hope the honest people will be rewarded in the end. I like happy endings (not just in a Thai massage parlour)

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                                              • MaDalton
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                                                • Feb 2004
                                                • 39861

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by notime
                                                Like you, I pay my taxes, my suppliers, my staff, my rent, etc.
                                                I wish everybody would do that because the ones that don't do kill jobs/economy/the system.

                                                Taxes in Holland will be lowered soon(!). Do you know why? They found & seized SO MUCH hidden money in offshore countries from Dutch people due to the latest tax treaties and revealing of bank secrets, that too much money is coming in. Go figure.

                                                Looks like the old saying is becoming a reality; "You can run but you cannot hide".

                                                Governments and laws are just starting to catch up with all the online tech stuff and that is going to be a new oppertunity for some and a downfall for others.

                                                I truly hope the honest people will be rewarded in the end. I like happy endings (not just in a Thai massage parlour)
                                                i agree 110%

                                                even with the thai massage thing ;)
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                                                • Barefootsies
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                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                  • 42635

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Robbie
                                                  Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

                                                  I'll handle this for him:

                                                  <gideongallery>
                                                  This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
                                                  The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
                                                  So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
                                                  Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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                                                  • notime
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                    i agree 110%

                                                    even with the thai massage thing ;)
                                                    I never visited Czech. Let's change that soon Stefan.

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                                                    • MaDalton
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                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 39861

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by notime
                                                      I never visited Czech. Let's change that soon Stefan.
                                                      whenever you want, i am already here
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                                                      • gideongallery
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                                                        • Aug 2003
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                                                        #28
                                                        http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders...ontent-090624/

                                                        We initially reported that Rapidshare was fined $34 million on the back of this report. This information is wrong, the court only stated that the value of the tracks was estimated at $34 million. The article is updated accordingly and we?re sorry for the confusion.

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                                                        • kenny
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                                                          • Mar 2002
                                                          • 7245

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                          It still sucks for rapidshare
                                                          7

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                                                          • majortom
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by notime
                                                            Au contraire mon Fraire.

                                                            Laywer talk French & latin stuff they just adore.
                                                            Hum, hum...
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                                                            and while we are at it.

                                                            it's Déjà vu (already seen) not deja vous (not good french and would mean "already you?"...in Africa;0)
                                                            Déjà vu is pronounced with a "hard U" not "he english U sounding like the "ou of you"
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                                                            • notime
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by majortom
                                                              Hum, hum...
                                                              mon frère

                                                              like in: Frère Jacques
                                                              Are You Sleeping
                                                              sang badly by an american guy "la matines..no no! les matines etc

                                                              Optional Lyrics:
                                                              Frère Jacques, frère Jacques
                                                              Montre moi tes couilles.
                                                              Ding Dang Dong

                                                              and while we are at it.

                                                              it's Déjà vu (already seen) not deja vous (not good french and would mean "already you?"...in Africa;0)
                                                              Déjà vu is pronounced with a "hard U" not "he english U sounding like the "ou of you"
                                                              "Mon frère" c'est correctement monsieur. Merci pour le correction.

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                                                              • fris
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                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 55818

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                you do realize that my name is a b oardtracker alert
                                                                so you just basically called me to this thread

                                                                anyway rapidshare makes the file completely available so grokster ruling applys
                                                                the transaction they are support always has 1 infringement (sharing) even if the downloading is protected by fair use.

                                                                torrents however are different because you don't share a complete file
                                                                doesn't mean that the transaction is always non infringing just that it can be.
                                                                Im curious why you always stick up for the pirates
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                                                                • Hank_Heartland
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by notime
                                                                  I never visited Czech. Let's change that soon Stefan.
                                                                  Damn man, Czech rocks

                                                                  MaDalton OK too
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                                                                  • JamesK
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                                                                    • Jun 2002
                                                                    • 16731

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                    <gideongallery>
                                                                    This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
                                                                    The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
                                                                    So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
                                                                    Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>
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                                                                    • gideongallery
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                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 7082

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by fris
                                                                      Im curious why you always stick up for the pirates
                                                                      i just sided with the courts in this ruling and pointed out how torrents were different
                                                                      by any unbiased point of view that would prove that i don't "always stick up for the pirates"

                                                                      The question is why do you ignore all the times i say the court is right and claim that i "always stick up for pirates"

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                                                                      • notime
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
                                                                        • 8027

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                        whenever you want, i am already here
                                                                        Maybe right after Berlin? Are you going to Berlin this year?

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                                                                        • PornNewz
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                                                                          • 851

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                          Gideon is busy right now in class at highschool.

                                                                          I'll handle this for him:

                                                                          <gideongallery>
                                                                          This judge is an idiot. He will be overturned because of the case of BLAH, BLAH, BLAH VCR's BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
                                                                          The courts have consistently found that time shifting Yada-yada-yada seeding the cloud in a swarm Yada-yada-yada is the most efficient and best timeshifting device to backup content that you idiots produced and I want to share with a few billion people for free and monetize it for myself using branding bugs under my Fair Use Rights to fuck everybody over and be a thief.
                                                                          So in closing...let me review: Judge in favor of piracy= Genius, Judge rules against piracy = Idiot, VCR, Branding Bugs, Time Shifting, TimeShifting Devices, Backups, Seeding, Cloud, Swarm, Fair Use
                                                                          Can't you idiots understand? </gideongallery>

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                                                                          • MaDalton
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                                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                                            • 39861

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by Hank_Heartland
                                                                            Damn man, Czech rocks

                                                                            MaDalton OK too
                                                                            what was your drink? JD/Coke?

                                                                            Originally posted by notime
                                                                            Maybe right after Berlin? Are you going to Berlin this year?
                                                                            i'd say 95% yes - not 100% sure though
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                                                                            • Paul Markham
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                                                                              • 52942

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                              isn't Rapidshare officially based in Switzerland? will not be easy to collect
                                                                              The decision is the big thing. It establishes they are breaking laws. with Germany being one of the big guns in Europe expect more EU countries to follow.

                                                                              The outcome of them being blocked is ess traffic, less advertisers and less profit.


                                                                              Originally posted by notime
                                                                              I never visited Czech. Let's change that soon Stefan.
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                                                                              • notime
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                The decision is the big thing. It establishes they are breaking laws. with Germany being one of the big guns in Europe expect more EU countries to follow.

                                                                                The outcome of them being blocked is ess traffic, less advertisers and less profit.




                                                                                Be sure to look us up if you come to Brno.
                                                                                Originally posted by MaDalton
                                                                                what was your drink? JD/Coke?



                                                                                i'd say 95% yes - not 100% sure though
                                                                                Ok, let's talk about that around the Berlin show (timewise)

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                                                                                • notime
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                                                                                  • 8027

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                  Be sure to look us up if you come to Brno.
                                                                                  Good idea indeed. Let's do the full tour and all people there in Prague & Brno.

                                                                                  Oh, btw Paul, I spoke to somebody a while ago and he said that you said that nobody had resell rights for your content. Did you forget about our deal when Eva was in the hospital? I just did not had the time yet to put them on our site yet but we do have an agreement and a paid invoice. Just checking if you remember it.

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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by notime
                                                                                    Good idea indeed. Let's do the full tour and all people there in Prague & Brno.

                                                                                    Oh, btw Paul, I spoke to somebody a while ago and he said that you said that nobody had resell rights for your content. Did you forget about our deal when Eva was in the hospital? I just did not had the time yet to put them on our site yet but we do have an agreement and a paid invoice. Just checking if you remember it.
                                                                                    He was wrong. the normal license does not include resale rights. It needs us to re license it to the new buyers.

                                                                                    You got a different license and paid a different price for it. You're fine.

                                                                                    Hit me up when you're coming, will miss Berlin this year. Not making any long term plans until the cancer is beaten and I'm back at work.
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                                                                                    • notime
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                      He was wrong. the normal license does not include resale rights. It needs us to re license it to the new buyers.

                                                                                      You got a different license and paid a different price for it. You're fine.

                                                                                      Hit me up when you're coming, will miss Berlin this year. Not making any long term plans until the cancer is beaten and I'm back at work.
                                                                                      ok, thanks Paul.
                                                                                      I hope you beat the cancer soon.

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                                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                                        • 52942

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by notime
                                                                                        ok, thanks Paul.
                                                                                        I hope you beat the cancer soon.
                                                                                        Thanks Jack.

                                                                                        Got it on the run now and the future looks good, at the beginning it was not so rosy. Now all I need is radio therapy to beat it completely.



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