I love how Turbo gets all pissy that bdjuf didn't contact him, when it should have been him contacting bdjuf asap when he knew that paypal didn't withdraw any money from his bank account.
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Sorry to hear about your loss. If I were you I would be contacting his local authorities with any information that you can compile. Someone needs to put a stop to these thieving bastards.
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I've known TF on the boards since before GFY was a board, back on porn city bbs. I've never known him to be a scammer. Maybe a few people here or there over the years had beef with him, I don't know, don't recall anything specific, so pardon me if I go ahead and give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he and bdjuf have a chance to work things out.
If I'm wrong, fine, but I've never percieved TF to be the type to risk his name and entire business rep over any amount of money, certainly not $1700. That barely buys you a decent laptop these days, what would be the point?
CDSmith are you 4 real?
just check this and any other boards but Pat is not what I would call an serious webmaster, yes you are naive and wrong, period !
I've known TF on the boards since before GFY was a board, back on porn city bbs. I've never known him to be a scammer. Maybe a few people here or there over the years had beef with him, I don't know, don't recall anything specific, so pardon me if I go ahead and give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he and bdjuf have a chance to work things out.
If I'm wrong, fine, but I've never percieved TF to be the type to risk his name and entire business rep over any amount of money, certainly not $1700. That barely buys you a decent laptop these days, what would be the point?
Agreed, he's certainly been guilty of some questionable judgment and I know some felt cheated when he closed his traffic program suddenly, but I don't recall anyone calling him a scammer. Who knows though, times are tough for some and he could have been using the transfer to float him some funds for a few days until he had enough to pay bdjuf back.
"WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..
I've known TF on the boards since before GFY was a board, back on porn city bbs. I've never known him to be a scammer. Maybe a few people here or there over the years had beef with him, I don't know, don't recall anything specific, so pardon me if I go ahead and give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he and bdjuf have a chance to work things out.
If I'm wrong, fine, but I've never percieved TF to be the type to risk his name and entire business rep over any amount of money, certainly not $1700. That barely buys you a decent laptop these days, what would be the point?
What exactly does it mean "to know someone on the boards?"
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Agreed, he's certainly been guilty of some questionable judgment and I know some felt cheated when he closed his traffic program suddenly, but I don't recall anyone calling him a scammer. Who knows though, times are tough for some and he could have been using the transfer to float him some funds for a few days until he had enough to pay bdjuf back.
I believe I posted some threads where people were calling him a scammer
What exactly does it mean "to know someone on the boards?"
Well let's see... I've seen YOUR character come through in your posts over the years, so I suppose that would be one example.
Put it this way -- if you were in TF's position I have no doubt that I and probably dozens of others would vouch for you having only known you "from the boards. I would hope at least a few here would give me the benefit of the doubt as well.
Well let's see... I've seen YOUR character come through in your posts over the years, so I suppose that would be one example.
Put it this way -- if you were in TF's position I have no doubt that I and probably dozens of others would vouch for you having only known you "from the boards. I would hope at least a few here would give me the benefit of the doubt as well.
Does that explain it for you? ((hope))
People would vouch for me because I've done business with them and/or have done them right. Not because they saw me posting on a message board and thought I sounded cool.
All I'm saying is... board "personas" don't mean jack. I've seen way too many "great guys" screw over others.
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People would vouch for me because I've done business with them and/or have done them right. Not because they saw me posting on a message board and thought I sounded cool.
All I'm saying is... board "personas" don't mean jack. I've seen way too many "great guys" screw over others.
I never said anything about sounding cool Sly. To my knowledge you and I haven't done business (have we?), but based on the quality of your posts I feel I have a sense of where you're coming from on most issues. I'm not saying I know you fully, and obviously you don't know me either, but based on our lengthy board time and how you've presented yourself I very well might speak up on your behalf if I found some thread where a bunch of people were trashing you.
And what I'm saying is a valid point, can you admit that? You really do get a sense of if someone has a modicum of sense about them or if they are a complete asshole based on how they conduct themselves here.
That's all I meant by "known him from the boards". It means I've seen him post and have posted back and forth with the guy on several occasions over several years, enough to give him the benefit of the doubt here.
I don't think I can make it any clearer than that.
People would vouch for me because I've done business with them and/or have done them right. Not because they saw me posting on a message board and thought I sounded cool.
All I'm saying is... board "personas" don't mean jack. I've seen way too many "great guys" screw over others.
That's strange. I agree with CDSmith on this (not regarding Turboface but in general).
There are certain people who have a solid reputation and should be trusted just on that.
I'd put you into that category, as well as CDSmith.... also baddog, Juicy, WG etc.
I'd trust them even if I hadn't done biz with them yet.
Now, if Turboface is in that category, is another question.
That's strange. I agree with CDSmith on this (not regarding Turboface but in general).
There are certain people who have a solid reputation and should be trusted just on that.
I'd put you into that category, as well as CDSmith.... also baddog, Juicy (he is beautiful man as well), WG etc.
I'd trust them even if I hadn't done biz with them yet.
Now, if Turboface is in that category, is another question.
Turboface can go to jail for this, and it's easy to prove. Check fraud is a major felony, he opened a checking account somewhere in order to trick paypal. Call your credit card/debit card company, then file an IC3 complaint and then call his local authorities. He needs to learn a lesson, don't let this go.
Also, indicate he has a history of scamming other people. The FBI will come down on him harder.
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