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  • uno
    RIP Dodger. BEST.CAT.EVER
    • Dec 2002
    • 18450

    #51
    Originally posted by Karupted Charles
    Yes it is true it has been brought up before and it blows my mind anyone promoted them after that. Further more he explained how to remove affiliate cookies in the members area forum bitching about how affiliates limit his (posted as a girl though) ability to make money.
    Yeah, seriously, fuck them.

    Oh, and fiddy.
    Last edited by uno; 06-16-2009, 10:57 AM.
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    • nation-x
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      • Mar 2004
      • 5370

      #52
      Garion made a statement: http://www.somebodythinkofthechildre...ues-statement/

      June 16, 2009 – 11:52 pm

      The director of G Media, Garion Hall, has issued a statement about a police raid on his company this week.

      Hall said yesterday morning (Monday 15 June, 2009) Victoria Police acted on a warrant to search the premises of the adult web business AbbyWinters.com. The raid was instigated by a tabloid journalist from the Herald Sun. The journalist has written about AbbyWinters.com in the past, trying to encourage authorities to act.

      Hall said no charges have been laid by the police and that no hardware was seized. Police were supplied with copies of all information that they requested and they (the police) were polite and amiable.

      He appreciates the support of Eros, staff, website members and models, and is hopeful of a successful outcome.

      Eros Executive Officer, Fiona Patten, told me that Eros fully supports their long term member and their right to provide non-violent erotica.

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      • Roald
        SecretFriends.com
        • May 2001
        • 27910

        #53
        well case closed guess?

        At least they got some publicity out of it.


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        • Agent 488
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          • Feb 2006
          • 22511

          #54
          you can go down the same way.

          put aside your little differences and stop being such little bitches.

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          • Agent 488
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            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #55
            Originally posted by Roald
            well case closed guess?

            At least they got some publicity out of it.
            i thought you were on holidays man.

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            • Socks
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              • May 2002
              • 8475

              #56
              I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

              Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

              And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

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              • Roald
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                • May 2001
                • 27910

                #57
                Originally posted by budsbabes
                i thought you were on holidays man.
                killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))


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                • Socks
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                  • May 2002
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Roald
                  killing some time as my plain goes tomorrow afternoon ;))
                  hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

                  Have a good trip!

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                  • Roald
                    SecretFriends.com
                    • May 2001
                    • 27910

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Socks
                    hey Roald man can you hit me up quick with your reviews.freeones.com RSS/XML feed, that other review sites use? My programmer wants to handle that tonight if possible... [email protected] if you don't wanna post it here

                    Have a good trip!
                    You will get an email from one of the tech guys tomorrow morning about it.

                    Cheers!


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                    • Drake
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 12508

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Socks
                      I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

                      Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

                      And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?
                      According to wikipedia Abby might just be a pseudonym used by Garion.

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                      • LiveDose
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                        • Feb 2002
                        • 25792

                        #61
                        Very good reminder of how pathetic the people making and enforcing laws are. Imagine the amount of resources wasted on this nonsense...

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                        • aniloscash
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                          #62
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                          • Grapesoda
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 46234

                            #63
                            Originally posted by Socks
                            I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

                            Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

                            And isn't Heidelberg in Germany?

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                            • GUNNER
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                              • May 2001
                              • 2115

                              #64
                              Originally posted by Socks
                              I wonder where "abby" is in all this. We've had Abby Winters listed even before they had an affiliate program, and well before she brought on Garion and all the staff. We used to talk quite a bit in e-mail.

                              Anyone know if she's still involved in the business?

                              hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

                              Abby = Garion
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                              • Yngwie
                                I am an Alien from space
                                • May 2003
                                • 11118

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Roald
                                That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

                                Interesting though


                                are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.
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                                • nation-x
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                                  • Mar 2004
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                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Yngwie
                                  are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.
                                  *slurp* *slurp*

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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Yngwie
                                    are they out of their mind? freeones.com as an affiliate is like finding gold at the end of the rainbow.. I would kill to have you guys as my affiliate.
                                    maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??

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                                    • Rock It
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                                      • Apr 2009
                                      • 83

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by GUNNER
                                      hopefully you didn't have cybersex.

                                      Abby = Garion
                                      Another Classic. Remind sof the guy who had the argument with the bot and then came of GFY and said he owned the chick he was talking to not realizing it was a bot spamming him...lol

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                                      • fris
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                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 55789

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Roald
                                        That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

                                        Interesting though
                                        they are nazis when it comes to affiliates, if you dont do 30 sales a week or something which you can do, they will cut you off.

                                        A sale is a sale, but I guess they must write the checks by hand
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                                        • V_RocKs
                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 32451

                                          #70
                                          Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

                                          In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money. This is bullshit because there is no profit sharing with 98% of the girls on the site. Yes there are some that stick around like some FTV girls (allison, danielle,etc) but most of the girls are cash in hand paid a flat fee then told to bug off.

                                          This is not stated to the members. I tried letting the members know this fact and that the advertisers that bring Abby Winters traffic are told one thing (you get rebills) and then given a different set of terms (you get your rebills canceled)... You (the surfer) would not know Abby Winters existed if it weren't for advertisers! So we are indeed giving Abby Winters massive exposure they would never have themselves and then we are getting screwed!

                                          I got flamed for about 2 hours and then the reply was deleted and my account terminated.

                                          Both affiliate and members... I asked why and they never gave me a reason.

                                          A few years later I re-applied as my business and got accepted again. Made dozens of sales and NEVER one single rebill!

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                                          • V_RocKs
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                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32451

                                            #71
                                            Oops... make that 1 rebill for ever 25 signups...

                                            Now look at rebills with other teen niche sponsors:

                                            CCBILL (average) 1:1.5
                                            Island Dollars 1:1.68
                                            Jayman Cash 1:0.58
                                            Lightspeed 1:1.2
                                            Niche Money 1:1.3
                                            Panchodog 1:1.1
                                            Teen Revenue 1:1.7
                                            Teen Dolls 1:3.4

                                            Abby Winters 1:25

                                            And people ask me all the time why I don't promote the site more? Dude, I am making blah blah.. and blah... and how many rebills? ohh... Only a couple... We compare the same traffic sent to other sponsors and I make 3 times as much...

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                                            • V_RocKs
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                                              • Nov 2003
                                              • 32451

                                              #72
                                              Oops Part II...

                                              I just got my payment from them... I love them now. Watch me post several blog posts tonight!

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                                              • NinjaSteve
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                                                • Dec 2003
                                                • 11089

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                Abby Winters is a pseudonym.

                                                In the members area there is a forum. One of the most active threads tells members that if they joined through a blog, TGP, etc they used an affiliate code. Then it tells them to cancel and rejoin so the girl gets all of the money.
                                                Whoa, talk about some shady shit!
                                                ...

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                                                • Sausage
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                                                  • Oct 2002
                                                  • 3012

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                                  Is it illegal to produce porn in all of Australia or just a specific states or areas? I've never heard anything about it being illegal before this article.
                                                  Back when I was in Queensland it was illegal to shoot hardcore porn. Also illegal to host porn in aus, not like you would since the price is 10x what you pay for os hosting.
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                                                  • Sethseekstruth
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                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 588

                                                    #75
                                                    Denied by someone? check my sig
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                                                    • Yngwie
                                                      I am an Alien from space
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 11118

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                      maybe they did not want to pay the 70% payout freeones requires??
                                                      in my opinion it would still be worth it in the long term. It's not like freeones is a small fish so they can produce high volumes so 70% is worth it in the long run. I would go into full details on how this would be beneficial to everyone involved, but I'm a little busy right now.
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                                                      • V_RocKs
                                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                        • Nov 2003
                                                        • 32451

                                                        #77
                                                        Any sponsor that doesn't know Freeones traffic is heaven sent is a moron... Especially one that is going to tell the surfer to cancel and re-signup anyway.

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                                                        • PersianKitty
                                                          Meow Media Inc.
                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 7785

                                                          #78
                                                          Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.

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                                                          • u-Bob
                                                            there's no $$$ in porn
                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                            • 33063

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by mutt
                                                            remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills

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                                                            • jimmy-3-way
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                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                              • 3861

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by PersianKitty
                                                              Gee.. should I feel special...? I've been an affiliate since 2005.
                                                              You already know you're special.
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                                                              • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                • Feb 2004
                                                                • 18975

                                                                #81
                                                                Do you think they will survive this?
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                                                                • Far-L
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                                                                  • Feb 2002
                                                                  • 6065

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
                                                                  Do you think they will survive this?
                                                                  My prediction is they will survive if the girl was not underage and maybe not if she was underage.

                                                                  Any update on what is happening?
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                                                                  • spacedog
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                                                                    #83

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                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                                      the news blurb didn't say it was illegal to make porn, only illegal to make porn for profit
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                                                                      • MrLuvr
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                                                                        • Nov 2004
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by TheDA
                                                                        It might have been longer than 2-3 months ago actually.

                                                                        I don't think I saw the original thread about him being killed. I came across a load of new stuff about him recently and it talked about suicide rumors in prison.

                                                                        There's a load of pictures of him and his wife after their release on Flickr or somewhere like that and loads of blog stuff too.
                                                                        Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

                                                                        http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina

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                                                                        • Socks
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                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                          • 8475

                                                                          #86
                                                                          He looks like a nice enough guy... (galitsin)

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                                                                          • VicD
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                                                                            • Feb 2005
                                                                            • 13245

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by Roald
                                                                            That will teach them for denying us as an affiliate!

                                                                            Interesting though
                                                                            I tried to become an affiliate several times but no luck, maybe better this way...

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                                                                            • flashfire
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                                                                              #88
                                                                              if they are shooting under age they deserve to get taken down

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                                                                              • TheDA
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                                                                                • May 2006
                                                                                • 4665

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by MrLuvr
                                                                                Not dead... his after prison photo stream,

                                                                                http://picasaweb.google.com/bigimotina
                                                                                Yes, that was some of the stuff I had seen.
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                                                                                • JanuarySeraph
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                                                                                  • Jul 2008
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  That totally fucking blows.
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                                                                                  • topnotch, standup guy
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                                                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                                                    • 1562

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                    remember this is a guy who tells his members to cancel and join again so the affiliates who do send him traffic lose their measly 25% or whatever the revshare is on rebills
                                                                                    Assuming that's really true, jail's a good place for him.
                                                                                    A hard dick has no conscience.

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                                                                                    • V_RocKs
                                                                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                                                      • 32451

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      It is a little thing I like to call GFY magic...

                                                                                      Start a thread. Bash a program. And get results.

                                                                                      Just got an Abby Winters rebill!

                                                                                      I think I am going to spend it on some Korbel!

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