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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #1

    Illegal Tube Site vs Legal Tube Site

    Illegal being defined as those who do not license/buy content, and claim user submits.

    I am looking for examples of both. I know Mr Frisky has a legal one. Some others are hosting sponsor videos are another. Just looking for a comparison between the two.

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  • Si
    Such Fun!
    • Feb 2008
    • 13900

    #2
    illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation

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    • mikesinner
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2005
      • 5646

      #3
      Seems to me there are legal ones and then those that pretend that surfers upload all the illegal movies. Either way I don't think legal ones are very profitable.

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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #4
        stupid thread. you can't determine here what is legal and illegal.

        you are just obfuscating the debate with your terminology, a debate which is 2-4 years old already and pretty much put to rest.

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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #5
          Originally posted by mobilefun1987
          illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation
          True. However, I am looking for some broad examples.

          Some have went the way of 1997, stealing first, make a mint on advertising, and then goign to the licensed content business model. Some are just stealing claiming use submits, and then others are legal, licensed content.
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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            Originally posted by mikesinner
            Seems to me there are legal ones and then those that pretend that surfers upload all the illegal movies. Either way I don't think legal ones are very profitable.
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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #7
              are looking for examples of licensed content tubes?

              yes the are some with sub 100 alexas.

              some with 2 min mgp clips?

              yes there are some with sub 5000 alexas.

              yes people are successful with tubes.

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              • topnotch, standup guy
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2008
                • 1562

                #8
                Originally posted by budsbabes
                stupid thread. you can't determine here what is legal and illegal.
                Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

                It's as fucking simple as that.


                Originally posted by budsbabes
                you are just obfuscating the debate with your terminology, a debate which is 2-4 years old already and pretty much put to rest.
                Yeah right
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                • Agent 488
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #9
                  you should have never dropped out of law school.

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                  • topnotch, standup guy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1562

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mobilefun1987
                    illegal could also be a tubesite using sponsor videos without 2257 documentation
                    So what? Who fucking cares?
                    A hard dick has no conscience.

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                    • Agent 488
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 22511

                      #11
                      you should send a support ticket to google and let them know they are running an "illegal" tube site.

                      Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                      Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

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                      • Snake Doctor
                        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                        • Mar 2001
                        • 13449

                        #12
                        Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                        Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

                        It's as fucking simple as that.
                        Ummm, the definition of illegal is

                        il⋅le⋅gal

                         /ɪˈligəl/ [i-lee-guhl]
                        ?adjective
                        1. forbidden by law or statute
                        User submitted content is legal, it complies with current law.

                        I agree that it's a totally fucked up situation and that the law needs a re-write to keep up with technology, BUT, calling it illegal is stupid because you get bogged down in a fucking semantic argument and never get to have the discussion you wanted to have in the first place.

                        You and OP could do all of us a favor by putting your heads together to come up with new terminology to describe the different types of tube sites.
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                        • topnotch, standup guy
                          Confirmed User
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by budsbabes
                          you should have never dropped out of law school.
                          I ain't talking legalize here. Illegal tubes, in the sense that most of us view the term, are about robbing honest webmasters and affiliates and you know that as well as anyone else.
                          A hard dick has no conscience.

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                          • gideongallery
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 7082

                            #14
                            Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                            Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

                            It's as fucking simple as that.




                            Yeah right
                            an you are all pimps living off the avails of prostitution

                            oh wait were live in the real world where the law as it is currently legal makes both your business and theirs legal.

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                            • Agent 488
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 22511

                              #15
                              i'm doing lowering my iq for the day. adios.

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                You and OP could do all of us a favor by putting your heads together to come up with new terminology to describe the different types of tube sites.
                                True dat nig.
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                                • Webmaster Army
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                                  • Jun 2009
                                  • 236

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by topnotch, standup guy
                                  Sure you can. If the tube site includes so called "user submitted" content it's illegal.

                                  It's as fucking simple as that.
                                  The problem with your argument is that it's wrong.

                                  Laugh on that one for awhile.
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                                  • Webmaster Army
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                                    • Jun 2009
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                    Ummm, the definition of illegal is



                                    User submitted content is legal, it complies with current law.

                                    I agree that it's a totally fucked up situation and that the law needs a re-write to keep up with technology, BUT, calling it illegal is stupid because you get bogged down in a fucking semantic argument and never get to have the discussion you wanted to have in the first place.
                                    Just call it an immoral tube site.
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                                    • SomeCreep
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 26118

                                      #19
                                      All of the Alexa top 100 tube sites are illegal. Hmm, that says something right there.

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