Originally Posted by klinton

well I seriously dont know what the argument and long discussion is about.
its like two sides that dont want to understand each other.
To resume:
Are porn paysites sales down comparing to what they were years, decades ago? yes.
are signup ratios to paysites also down? yes.
does it have something with "free porn" and tubes? yes.

can you make money if you have traffic? yes.
do tubes have lots of traffic? yes.

end of discussion...