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Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd
I DID read what you wrote and no it was not understandable. This is often the case with your longer posts. Maybe it's a language thing...
But I do NOT see real estate offers or car tire ads being advertised on the tubes. Maybe in the German-speaking market but not on PH, XHamster et al.
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that you do not see it does not mean it is not there.
ad technology today works on much finer geo-targeting than just country or language.
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And of course gathering emails or mobile phone data is a great way to market via email campaigns. Just ask Rochard and YNOT Mail.  But the initial ad price is based on how the product being advertised is sold, not the future potential of data mining and emails.
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and this is what you do not understand as it i a very other kind of marketing.
i have an advertiser since many years that promotes a free casino with us.
users get every day 1000 chips and can spend them or win more free chips.
their business model is that they sell chips to those that do not want to wait 1 day
and the biz is HUGE.
but what was even more astonishing is that around 30% of the signups come from women and 60% of the sales come from women.
so now imagine what you can do already with the knowledge that the user is a women
and willing to pay for play coins.
you do not even need data mining like facebook and google - you can already imagine a lot of possible products such a user might be interested on.
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So companies that have figured out how to squeeze 10% from spending 100K on dick pill ads are buying all the traffic, waiting in line for it, etc? Got it.
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not all of them do it this way yet - but every day the number of this marketers becomes bigger and with it their advertising budget.
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But as you said, membersites (paysites) are not a part of this equation. The ones that DO advertise are owned by the tubes themselves.
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they are not part because they work like in the 90s and never changed anything.
and that the still working membersites are working BECAUSE they bought the tubes shows you already that I am correct. but the buying power that get fished on the tubes goes possibly to 3-4% into their paysites (what is still huge when you see it from the total number) 96-97% of the users there are generating OTHER revenues for other products but it is the main income for this tubes.
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I, for one, am not interested in pushing dick pills, casinos or virus protection ads. But for those who do dig that kind of thing, mozeltov.
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but you would also not exist without sites that advertise your products (on THEIR risk)
they just become less and less because publishers always go the easier and more profitable way.
as i said in this thread earlier: I KNOW that one big paysite program is already working on the problem and I am sure that they will make A LOT of money when they are done with that.