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Old 08-14-2019, 02:12 AM  
thommy
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham View Post
So give us some links to the PORN sites you sell ad space on.
if you would be smart enough you would find out already by yourselfs and not only try to signup in my network as bakery ;-)

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I'm saying that selling porn made more money before Tubes gave away for free.
an I am saying that since we give it for free we make a lot more with simply showing ads around it.

paul i was running a huge and very successful membersite for more than 12 years.
i know how hard it is to get even one single buyer and as i started that side in 1999 i also know the numbers from this good old times you are talking about.

the expenditure to run a sich a website is HUGE - starting from fraud protection til customer care, content buys, affiliate system, servers, content delivery and much much more.
even with 2 million revenue per year there is not more than 8-10% of net profit left if you want to make it good. and there are not many membersites that make 2 million revenue - not in the good old times and also not now.

so donīt think that i donīt know about this market. because i know it MUCH better than you as i had actually the very first paysite on membership base in the german market - weīve started one week before fundorado and if i would KNOW that they start i would rather promote them as to go through this B2C hell.

fundorado is still doing good - but the market is not big enough to keep that many of them alive. but the market is big enough for all the publisher sites when they do not focus on this little cake.

btw. the video market started to die already around 2000 when the first livecams came up. in all the time when i had membersites the usage was 80% on cams (wich we bought and sold flat also) and just 20% on videos and pictures. so in fact we paid too much for videos already than as it was never the reason why people signed up.

tell me why livecams are still here and bigger than ever before even when you can get them for free ? what did they do better as you did?
they are just smarter as you are and think further as you can ever think.
so do not complain the tubes or the market - complain your brain!
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