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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635
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    XXXJay - Is There Still Opportunity in Adult?

    Jay "XXXJay" Quinlan is one of the few people others point to when talking about webmaster success stories. Having made a nice living during the 'golden years of porn', he is now co-owner of affiliate program OC Cash, an adult talent agency, and other businesses. Jay gives us the rare chance to grill him and extract his wisdom about: what opportunities still exist in adult; are legal tubesites a valid marketing mechanism and tool? are TGP/MGP/Link Lists now obsolete? How much is the "free porn" phenomenon to blame for the current situation versus the economy; Blogs and Web2.0 as a marketing vehicle; and other peripheral products to up-sell to your visitors to make more money from your websites.

    Prior to the interview we cover news about a major Aussie ISP's victory in court on copyright infrigement charges; Traffic Dude going bust; the death and rebirth of the Craig's List adult section; and what new pending federal law could potentially limit first amendment rights for everyone. Scary stuff!
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    • Legendary Samir - BANNED FOR LIFE
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      • Jun 2007
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      #2
      Is today "Kiss Ass" day?

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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635
          #3
          Originally posted by Legendary Samir
          Is today "Kiss Ass" day?
          Nope.

          It's 'bump my threads as usual day'. Oh, I see you are recognizing the holiday (as usual).

          Thanks nig.
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            • CaptainWolfy
              Playa
              • Dec 2005
              • 8439
              #4
              there is no money in porn!

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                • fris
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                  • Aug 2002
                  • 55789
                  #5
                  toe da top.

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                    • PantiesDropped
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 321
                      #6
                      LOL I just posted the same exat thing... your making my job way too easy.
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                        • Barefootsies
                          Choice is an Illusion
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 42635
                          #7
                          Originally posted by norprostar
                          LOL I just posted the same exat thing... your making my job way too easy.
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                            • Barefootsies
                              Choice is an Illusion
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 42635
                              #8
                              Originally posted by empty1987
                              there is no money in porn!
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                              Enough Said.

                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by empty1987
                                  there is no money in porn!

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                                  Enough Said.

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                                    • LeRoy
                                      Porn Pusher
                                      • Jul 2007
                                      • 13362
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by empty1987
                                      there is no money in porn!
                                      Hey now

                                      Didnt we just pay you to fly your sig?

                                      There's tons of opps out there.
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                                        • polish_aristocrat
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                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 40377
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by LeRoy
                                          Hey now

                                          Didnt we just pay you to fly your sig?
                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                            • Barefootsies
                                              Choice is an Illusion
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 42635
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by LeRoy
                                              Hey now

                                              Didnt we just pay you to fly your sig?

                                              There's tons of opps out there.
                                              Should You Email Your Members?

                                              Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                              Enough Said.

                                              "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                • xxxjay
                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                  • 13482
                                                  #13
                                                  thanks...can't wait to listen to it
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                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                      • 42635
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                      thanks...can't wait to listen to it
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                                                      Enough Said.

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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635
                                                          #15
                                                          Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                          Enough Said.

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                                                            • Iron Fist
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                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                              • 23400
                                                              #16
                                                              Nice to have fans.
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                                                                • EthnicLover
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                                  • 1584
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Cool podcast.


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                                                                    • LoveSandra
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                                                                      • Aug 2008
                                                                      • 10551
                                                                      #18
                                                                      nice podcast

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                                                                        • Jayvis
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                                                                          • Nov 2005
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Big fan of Sin2.0

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                                                                            • SomeCreep
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                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                              • 26118
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Cool interview. Jay knows what's up. Currently, online porn is a dying industry (or at least contracting), however that's not to say that in 6 - 12 months from now, something new won't come along which helps sales to grow again.

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                                                                                • mmcfadden
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                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                  • 5099
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  porn will pick up with the rest of the economy.... when that happens

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                                                                                    • trevesty
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                                                                                      • Aug 2006
                                                                                      • 3810
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      very interesting.
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                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 42635
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                                                                          Cool interview. Jay knows what's up. Currently, online porn is a dying industry (or at least contracting), however that's not to say that in 6 - 12 months from now, something new won't come along which helps sales to grow again.
                                                                                          It's not dying by any means. There are a handful of new business models, just some refuse to accept them (i.e. tubes, clips stores, interactive, etc.).

                                                                                          Those people should be out of this business in another year or two unless in a niche market. In Jan at the Vegas show, a lot of the BRO programs admitted they were down 40-75%. Why they would not make some changes is beyond me. Especially if you OWN the content. I milk mine over and over and over. Sites, clip stores, licensing deals. It's like a gold mine.

                                                                                          If you can't innovate, you deserve to be out of business.

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                                                                                          Enough Said.

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                                                                                            • CaptainWolfy
                                                                                              Playa
                                                                                              • Dec 2005
                                                                                              • 8439
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by LeRoy
                                                                                              Hey now

                                                                                              Didnt we just pay you to fly your sig?

                                                                                              There's tons of opps out there.
                                                                                              Ups yea, there is money with DTICASH.com and now how was that other sentence, let me remember, oh yea
                                                                                              tube sites are pure evil, blogs also don't make any money,

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                                                                                                • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                                                                  • 9569
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                                  It's not dying by any means. There are a handful of new business models, just some refuse to accept them (i.e. tubes, clips stores, interactive, etc.).

                                                                                                  Those people should be out of this business in another year or two unless in a niche market. In Jan at the Vegas show, a lot of the BRO programs admitted they were down 40-75%. Why they would not make some changes is beyond me. Especially if you OWN the content. I milk mine over and over and over. Sites, clip stores, licensing deals. It's like a gold mine.

                                                                                                  If you can't innovate, you deserve to be out of business.

                                                                                                  Saying it's not dying in ANY means is not exactly correct.

                                                                                                  It's definitely dying in SOME means.

                                                                                                  I have lots of respect to Jay as he's a man who means what he does and does what he means plus he knows much more than me about the SEO etc., but if he's hurting, something is wrong.

                                                                                                  I'm VERY lucky we don't produce the very much GENERIC (but still say high quality expensive) porn with the free substitute everywhere.

                                                                                                  The trade off for maintaining the whole building and all the pain connected with live broadcast and organisation is that the conversions are NOT worse, the retention is NOT worse, but there's LESS traffic to exploit, unless you start to cooperate with the DMCA crusaders running illegal tube sites, which I won't do, because they're doing something very dumb.

                                                                                                  Next steps - finalizing all the very much needed promos for bigsisterlive.com, releasing brand new sites in rare niches (coming up very soon) under the brand new sponsor program, then probably setting up also a clip / micropayment site for the whole concept.
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                                                                                                    • seven
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                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      interesting.
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                                                                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                                          • 42635
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                                                                                                          Saying it's not dying in ANY means is not exactly correct.

                                                                                                          It's definitely dying in SOME means.
                                                                                                          I love ya man, but I did not make that statement. I answered a general statement with a general statement, and then clarified my points.

                                                                                                          The O.P. was talking as if adult, as an industry, would be dead. As in, no money to be made. Where I was clarifying that there is money to be made in adult. Both through technology, and niches, among other growth areas. Furthermore clarifying that those sticking to old business models, and refusing to update tactics, presentation, delivery, will be out of business soon enough.

                                                                                                          Nothin' but love for the Gaucho.
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                                                                                                          Enough Said.

                                                                                                          "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                                                                                            • CharlieBrown
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                                                                                                              • Jun 2002
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              how many years have porn been a dying industry now?
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                                                                                                                • xenigo
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                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                  • 8067
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by CharlieBrown
                                                                                                                  how many years have porn been a dying industry now?
                                                                                                                  Exactly. I applaud the effort XXXJay makes by saying "If I could do it all again, I'd get out of adult."

                                                                                                                  Well now's your opportunity. Get out of adult, Jay. We're waiting. Put your money where your mouth is.

                                                                                                                  But since we both know that won't happen... do us all a favor and stop talking. Just because you're uninspired and your content sucks doesn't mean the sky is falling for everyone else. Just you, apparently.

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                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                      • 42635
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CharlieBrown
                                                                                                                      how many years have porn been a dying industry now?
                                                                                                                      Online? Since '97 I believe.

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                                                                                                                      Enough Said.

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                                                                                                                        • gideongallery
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                                                                                                                          • Aug 2003
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          asking xxxjay if there is still oppertunity in adult is like asking hitler to where to find a good jewish resturant
                                                                                                                          he is so anti-tube site/fair use he can't see the forrest for the trees.

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                                                                                                                            • xenigo
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gideongallery
                                                                                                                              asking xxxjay if there is still oppertunity in adult is like asking hitler to where to find a good jewish resturant
                                                                                                                              he is so anti-tube site/fair use he can't see the forrest for the trees.
                                                                                                                              XXXJay shouldn't do interviews while fucking high.

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                                                                                                                                • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                  • 42635
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xenigo
                                                                                                                                  XXXJay shouldn't do interviews while fucking high.
                                                                                                                                  Should You Email Your Members?

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                                                                                                                                  Enough Said.

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                                                                                                                                    • Mr. Romance
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                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2005
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                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      xxxjay is a good man..thanks for doing the interview

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                                                                                                                                        • voa
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                                                                                                                                          • Nov 2006
                                                                                                                                          • 16532
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          I think it is for sure

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                                                                                                                                            • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                                                                                              • 9569
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                              I love ya man, but I did not make that statement. I answered a general statement with a general statement, and then clarified my points.

                                                                                                                                              The O.P. was talking as if adult, as an industry, would be dead. As in, no money to be made. Where I was clarifying that there is money to be made in adult. Both through technology, and niches, among other growth areas. Furthermore clarifying that those sticking to old business models, and refusing to update tactics, presentation, delivery, will be out of business soon enough.

                                                                                                                                              Nothin' but love for the Gaucho.
                                                                                                                                              Yeah, general statements usually suck.

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                                                                                                                                                • CarlosTheGaucho
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                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2005
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                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Btw. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=895582
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                                                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                                                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                      • 42635
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                                                                                                                                                      Btw. http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=895582
                                                                                                                                                      the Gaucho is on fire...
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                                                                                                                                                      Enough Said.

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