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06-03-2019, 07:15 AM

We have another Russiafobist in the Dutch state government.
It is almost 75 years ago when the liberation of Holland started.
there will be a lot of festivities in Terneuzen to celebrate it.

Putin is not invited, cause the Russians didn't liberate Holland.
That is said by the commisioner of that state Han Polman....

You know who is invited….. Gerrmany !!...
I don't think Germany liberated Holland 75 years ago...

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WAGENINGEN - Russian President Putin is not invited to the commemoration and celebration of 75 Years of Freedom on August 31 in Terneuzen. The reason is that the Russians do not belong to the liberators of the Netherlands, said the Zeeland commissioner of the King Han Polman Monday in Wageningen.

Polman said government leaders and heads of state were invited from all countries that fought to end the Second World War in the Netherlands. A number of senior guests have already promised, according to Polman. An invitation to reconciliation was also sent to the German government.
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https://www.pzc.nl/zeeuws-nieuws/rus...-wel~a1d732c3/

Remember last month, they didn't want to play the Dutch anthem during an a celebration for WWII cause it could make the germans who attended uncomfortable..

In 50 years we will read that Germany helped us winning from the Russians, like in the book 1984.

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06-03-2019, 07:34 AM

That sounds odd

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06-03-2019, 07:50 AM

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06-03-2019, 07:52 AM

Good for Holland.. Russia is actively attacking Holland just like they are attacking all the EU countries & the US. Germans are now allies..

Russia is the new Nazis..

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06-03-2019, 07:54 AM

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06-03-2019, 08:08 AM

Someone correct me if I am wrong..... If it wasn't for the Russians, the Dutch would be speaking German right now. The Russians are the ones who defeated the Nazis. Oh, other countries did their part, but if it wasn't for the Russians we would all be speaking German now. Or Japanese.

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06-03-2019, 08:14 AM

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Russia is the new Nazis..

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06-03-2019, 08:26 AM

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Someone correct me if I am wrong..... If it wasn't for the Russians, the Dutch would be speaking German right now. The Russians are the ones who defeated the Nazis. Oh, other countries did their part, but if it wasn't for the Russians we would all be speaking German now. Or Japanese.

That's not really true.. WW2 was a fight on many fronts. Example Russia was 100% beat right up until Hitler pulled the luftwaffe out of Russia to fight in Africa.

Why did Hitler do this? Because British, Australian and US troops were attacking German oil supply lines in Africa. Hitler had no choice but to move troops out of Russia to defend his oil access. Thus gave Russia breathing room to fight back.

Meaning you can argue that the US, Brits and Australians saved Russia's ass.

Prior to the luftwaffe being pulled out Hitler had complete dominance over Russia airspace. Germans were bombing Russia back to the stone age.

Had that bombing continued Moscow would have fallen and Russia would have been defeated.

Not to mention the US sent shitloads of weapons to Russians under lendlease. Every country played a important role and with out 1 or the other the war could have been much different.

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06-03-2019, 08:31 AM

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06-03-2019, 08:35 AM

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Someone correct me if I am wrong..... If it wasn't for the Russians, the Dutch would be speaking German right now. The Russians are the ones who defeated the Nazis. Oh, other countries did their part, but if it wasn't for the Russians we would all be speaking German now. Or Japanese.

To be honest, I don't think so. Russians have liberated the Europe while you - Americans were living on the personal aircraft carrier continent and you were able to defeat the internal Nazi attacks. Just because... you are located oversea. The Nazi tanks were unable to reach you. Remember that only in one tank battle for Kursk, Soviet army has destroyed, oh... look by yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk or Battle of Stalingrad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad - everything of that just impossible because tanks can't fly oversea even today.

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06-03-2019, 10:47 AM

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06-03-2019, 10:53 AM

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To be honest, I don't think so. Russians have liberated the Europe while you - Americans were living on the personal aircraft carrier continent and you were able to defeat the internal Nazi attacks. Just because... you are located oversea. The Nazi tanks were unable to reach you. Remember that only in one tank battle for Kursk, Soviet army has destroyed, oh... look by yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk or Battle of Stalingrad: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stalingrad - everything of that just impossible because tanks can't fly oversea even today.

You seem to forget that WW2 was not just fought in Europe.. The US fought the naval war against Japan including many, many island invasions and also ground war with Brits and Aussies in Africa.. Russia was involved in none of this. America and the Brits fought all fronts of WW2 while Russia was mostly trying to stay alive and couldn't project any power outside of Eastern Europe.

Added to this Russia attempted to use WW2 to land grab...The US did not wall off Germany or Japan and take it over after the war but Russia sure did that to many countries...

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06-03-2019, 10:56 AM

The Russians did a lot to end WWII and should have been invited.

On the other hand we where happy we where near England and liberated by western countries. Else we might have had a communist system like eastern Europe for 30 / 40 years.

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06-03-2019, 11:36 AM

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That's not really true.. WW2 was a fight on many fronts. Example Russia was 100% beat right up until Hitler pulled the luftwaffe out of Russia to fight in Africa.

Why did Hitler do this? Because British, Australian and US troops were attacking German oil supply lines in Africa. Hitler had no choice but to move troops out of Russia to defend his oil access. Thus gave Russia breathing room to fight back.

Meaning you can argue that the US, Brits and Australians saved Russia's ass.

Prior to the luftwaffe being pulled out Hitler had complete dominance over Russia airspace. Germans were bombing Russia back to the stone age.

Had that bombing continued Moscow would have fallen and Russia would have been defeated.

Not to mention the US sent shitloads of weapons to Russians under lendlease. Every country played a important role and with out 1 or the other the war could have been much different.

I disagree.

If Russia never got involved in the war, that Nazis would have won. The Nazis would have taken over all of Europe except for Russia, and no one would have been able to do anything to stop them. The UK would have been eventually over run or destroyed by the air. The United States wouldn't have been able to have helped in Europe if it wasn't for Russia; We never would have been able to build up in England and never would have been able to have landed in France.

If the United States never got into the war in Europe, the Russians would have eventually over run the Nazis and beat them.

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06-03-2019, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

Someone correct me if I am wrong..... If it wasn't for the Russians, the Dutch would be speaking German right now. The Russians are the ones who defeated the Nazis. Oh, other countries did their part, but if it wasn't for the Russians we would all be speaking German now. Or Japanese.

Whats wrong with germany? I rather speak german than russian! Lol...

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06-03-2019, 11:43 AM

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The Russians did a lot to end WWII and should have been invited.

On the other hand we where happy we where near England and liberated by western countries. Else we might have had a communist system like eastern Europe for 30 / 40 years.

This is the point.. Russia didnt liberate anyone. They might have drove Nazis out of areas but then they became the new Nazis.

The US didnt wall off countries behind a iron curtain.. Russians did... As a result Both Germany and Japan are modern countries while most in the Soviet Block are relics of the past..

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06-03-2019, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

We have another Russiafobist in the Dutch state government.
It is almost 75 years ago when the liberation of Holland started.
there will be a lot of festivities in Terneuzen to celebrate it.

Putin is not invited, cause the Russians didn't liberate Holland.
That is said by the commisioner of that state Han Polman....

You know who is invited….. Gerrmany !!...
I don't think Germany liberated Holland 75 years ago...

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WAGENINGEN - Russian President Putin is not invited to the commemoration and celebration of 75 Years of Freedom on August 31 in Terneuzen. The reason is that the Russians do not belong to the liberators of the Netherlands, said the Zeeland commissioner of the King Han Polman Monday in Wageningen.

Polman said government leaders and heads of state were invited from all countries that fought to end the Second World War in the Netherlands. A number of senior guests have already promised, according to Polman. An invitation to reconciliation was also sent to the German government.
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https://www.pzc.nl/zeeuws-nieuws/rus...-wel~a1d732c3/

Remember last month, they didn't want to play the Dutch anthem during an a celebration for WWII cause it could make the germans who attended uncomfortable..

In 50 years we will read that Germany helped us winning from the Russians, like in the book 1984.

Russiafobist? A country who provocates Europe by flying into its territory on a regular basis with heavilly packed bomber planes.... Would you call that a friend who you would invite to a party?

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06-03-2019, 11:52 AM

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06-03-2019, 11:53 AM

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06-03-2019, 01:04 PM

Matt26z post a few days ago and now suddenly all the 2k post count fake nicks are spewing their Russian propaganda again..

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06-03-2019, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks

Russiafobist? A country who provocates Europe by flying into its territory on a regular basis with heavilly packed bomber planes.... Would you call that a friend who you would invite to a party?

Please stick to Putin your cock in syfilis infected cheap asian hookers... yes put it in.... and smoke Some more garbage and please close the door on your way out.

I have respect for the millions of Russians that had been killed and helped end WWII.
Nothing to do with Putin now, he represents the victims at those events.

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06-03-2019, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

The Russians did a lot to end WWII and should have been invited.

On the other hand we where happy we where near England and liberated by western countries. Else we might have had a communist system like eastern Europe for 30 / 40 years.

You talk so nicely of your fellow commie countrymen

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06-03-2019, 08:42 PM

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Had that bombing continued Moscow would have fallen and Russia would have been defeated.

Learn the history, dude. The Moscow bombing was stopped in 1941 while the United States of America entered the war in 1944 (I mean the operation Overlord), when Germany was almost totally defeated by Soviets.

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06-03-2019, 11:13 PM

surely it was a common effort...But if not the Soviet Union from 1941....
They were responsible for like 70-80 % of LAND war effort in Europe.
And yeah, Nazis and Soviets they were the greatest friends 1939-1941, too....During this time Germans were already genocidal wherever they were....
while USSR was Nazi's friend, England said f... off to Hitler and was standing kind of alone against it 1940-1941...They didnt do separate peace bill with Adolf.

And the fact that Japs didnt attack USSR in 1941 also helped. They had no means to attack though that much, as Japs were only strong with Navy.

IMO the real turning point of WW2 were: failed attack on Moscow in November-December 1941, US joining the war same time... from that is only ride downhill for Germans.
The "funny" thing is that Germans were bcoming more and more genocidal with every year....and they already knew that they will lose the war already from like 1943
oh and one more thing: during one siege of ONE big city in USSR (Leningrad) died more Soviet people than COMBINED amount of US & British military and civilian deaths during the WW2. So this shows good the scale of the effort in ww2...Eastern front was the real shit, just like Nazi occupation of Eastern Europe...People on the west didnt "tasted" the real German face in ww2 that much.
Thats why Germans didnt want to surrender to Russians, they knew that noone from Russia will drink champagne with them (like some Americans and British did), they will simply start to get brutal revenge quickly.
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06-03-2019, 11:14 PM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

I have respect for the millions of Russians that had been killed and helped end WWII.
Nothing to do with Putin now, he represents the victims at those events.

Nothing to do with Putin?

He is the one that orders his military to provocate Europe... what do you mean "nothing to do with Putin"?

You can't be a friend if your actions are hostile... We call that an enemy!

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06-03-2019, 11:29 PM

The USA was a tourist in WW2...the USA lost just as much men as tiny shit hole yugoslavia...its role in WW2 was minor and it let everybody else do the heavy lifting and then declared it won WW2 by nuking fishermen...fake US history trying to steal russian thunder...

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06-04-2019, 12:24 AM

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during one siege of ONE big city in USSR (Leningrad) died more Soviet people than COMBINED amount of US & British military and civilian deaths during the WW2.

Everything is correct and I'll add one core word to your phrase about Leningrad: civilian. These were not soldiers. They were civilians who have died of starvation and bombing. The army was able to keep Nazis outside the city, but it was unable to make a breach to deliver a food.

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06-04-2019, 12:24 AM

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Nothing to do with Putin?

He is the one that orders his military to provocate Europe... what do you mean "nothing to do with Putin"?

You can't be a friend if your actions are hostile... We call that an enemy!

Come on, the Dutch love Russian money. Just like Germany love the Russian (gas).

China the example of a real democracy are our friends, they know how to handle religions they don't want. And the Ukrain who didn't warn for buk rockets and tried to get Europe involved in a civial war. Just like ur friends IS, Holland gave hundreds of SUV's. And than we have some Arab Kings as friend that like women to be covered, gays to be killed, have stoning death penalty. Come on, we have much more interesting friends than Russian. You know how much we export to Russia? We like feeding them (for money).

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer is the Dutch approach. That is why Germany is invited when we remember D-Day.

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06-04-2019, 12:41 AM

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China the example of a real democracy are our friends, they know how to handle religions they don't want.

Not just a religion. They do execute people and... women. Here in Russia we have no death penalty - we have a life-time sentence insteed. But women here are an exception. They can't get more than 25 years in prison just for everything (a so-called Russian gender injustice).

Meanwhile in the democratic China:

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06-04-2019, 01:36 AM

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06-04-2019, 07:28 AM

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06-04-2019, 07:46 AM

Originally posted by Struggle4Bucks

Whats wrong with germany? I rather speak german than russian! Lol...

There is nothing wrong with being German. Or being Russian. The problem was the Nazis. They would drag you out of the house in the middle of the night and make you disappear because you weren't a believer or a Nazi party member - or because you were gay or Jewish.

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06-05-2019, 06:00 AM

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There is nothing wrong with being German. Or being Russian. The problem was the Nazis. They would drag you out of the house in the middle of the night and make you disappear because you weren't a believer or a Nazi party member - or because you were gay or Jewish.

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06-05-2019, 06:03 AM

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06-05-2019, 06:50 AM

Let's remind everyone that currently Russia has occupied parts of the Ukraine - not someone to celebrate liberation with. Especially not when they prepare making it official by giving out Russian passports so that at one point they will be able to claim that they only protect their own people.

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06-05-2019, 06:58 AM

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Let's remind everyone that currently Russia has occupied parts of the Ukraine - not someone to celebrate liberation with. Especially not when they prepare making it official by giving out Russian passports so that at one point they will be able to claim that they only protect their own people.

Where did I hear that before...

First of all, this is not Russia but pro-Putin mercenaries - you know, the people who kill for money. This doesn't mean that all Russians (me for example) are happy with that.

The second thing about passports. The new president of the Ukraine said that he will give away the Ukrainian passports to every Russian in turn. I want one and I'm waiting for it. Where and when I can get it?

The third thing is that Soviet Union (not Putin and not even Russia) has assraped your Hitler. Your, Stefan, not mine. You are a German, not me. Both my granddads were fighting Nazis. Please remind me where you ones were at that time?

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06-05-2019, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by StefanG

Let's remind everyone that currently Russia has occupied parts of the Ukraine - not someone to celebrate liberation with. Especially not when they prepare making it official by giving out Russian passports so that at one point they will be able to claim that they only protect their own people.

Where did I hear that before...

If they didn´t move in, there would be another sort of cival war like in Yugoslavia. Especially went the EU would have gotten in to ´protect´ it. I am happy the Russian went in and not the EU. Those eastern europe disputes that go back centuries they can solve themselves. - if there aren't genocides or so - Or would you have preffered a cival war or the EU marching in?

That is why the EU is set up some say, to bring peace in the EU. So the reasons must be all EU countries hated each other and starting wars all the time. The whole EU is based on keep friends close and enemies closer. And when money (or gas) is involved people say that that is the best way to stay in peace, cause the dependence. Than suddenly they start saying how bad Russia is. Merkel and Germany love the gas deal, but paying respect to falling soldiers, suddenly that would be the badest thing ever. strange, double morals and views. With the nordstream money, Russia was able to get the Ukrain and put the Ukrain out of that Nordstream II deal.

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06-05-2019, 07:16 AM

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First of all, this is not Russia but pro-Putin mercenaries - you know, the people who kill for money. This doesn't mean that all Russians (me for example) are happy with that.

The second thing about passports. The new president of the Ukraine said that he will give away the Ukrainian passports to every Russian in turn. I want one and I'm waiting for it. Where and when I can get it?

The third thing is that Soviet Union (not Putin and not even Russia) has assraped your Hitler. Your, Stefan, not mine. You are a German, not me. Both my granddads were fighting Nazis. Please remind me where you ones were at that time?

Don't play a fool, because you're looking stupid.

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If they didn´t move in, there would be another sort of cival war like in Yugoslavia. Especially went the EU would have gotten in to ´protect´ it. I am happy the Russian went in and not the EU. Those eatern europe disputes that go back centuries they can solve themselves. Or would you have preffered a cival war or the EU marching in?

That is why the EU is set up some say, to bring peace in the EU. So the reasons must be all EU countries hated each other and starting wars all the time. The whole EU is based on keep friends close and enemies closer. And when money (or gas) is involved people say that that is the best way to stay in peace, cause the dependence. Than suddenly they start saying how bad Russia is. Merkel and Germany love the gas deal, but paying respect to falling soldiers, suddenly that would be the badest thing ever. strange, double morals and views. With the nordstream money, Russia was able to get the Ukrain and put the UKrain out of that deal.

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06-05-2019, 08:23 AM

he Queen was introduced to leaders by the Prime Minister @10DowningStreet - each representing the allied nations that took part in D-Day. #DDay75

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06-05-2019, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

Come on, the Dutch love Russian money. Just like Germany love the Russian (gas).

China the example of a real democracy are our friends, they know how to handle religions they don't want. And the Ukrain who didn't warn for buk rockets and tried to get Europe involved in a civial war. Just like ur friends IS, Holland gave hundreds of SUV's. And than we have some Arab Kings as friend that like women to be covered, gays to be killed, have stoning death penalty. Come on, we have much more interesting friends than Russian. You know how much we export to Russia? We like feeding them (for money).

Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer is the Dutch approach. That is why Germany is invited when we remember D-Day.

Why should I waste energy replying to this ^^^^ when it's clear that you can't distinct an apple from a pear?

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06-05-2019, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by celandina

Should have left them starve to death back in '45 ...what a fucking idiots.

You should call Marty McFly and ask him to go tell them back in '45 to starve the Dutch because 75 years later they will refuse to invite Puty to the party...

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06-05-2019, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

There is nothing wrong with being German. Or being Russian. The problem was the Nazis. They would drag you out of the house in the middle of the night and make you disappear because you weren't a believer or a Nazi party member - or because you were gay or Jewish.

I know what the Nazis did... Yet... I will state that I, today, would rather speak german then Russian!

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06-05-2019, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1

he Queen was introduced to leaders by the Prime Minister @10DowningStreet - each representing the allied nations that took part in D-Day. #DDay75

see link...

https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/stat...18825085607936

Lol, the Royal English Family twitter account removed the video... they knew it was wrong.

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06-05-2019, 07:17 PM

The reason why Russia is hated in the West is because jews hate Russia, and jews control the West. That's why Russia is perceived no different from how the Soviet Union was perceived.

The "iron curtain" was a concept from the Talmud, meaning iron barrier or divider. In other words, jewish divide-and-conquer of Whites. What they're afraid of is that Whites in the West will stop thinking of Russia as "other".
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06-05-2019, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

The problem was the Nazis.

Nazis were pro-white Whites.

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06-05-2019, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by optics

The reason why Russia is hated in the West is because jews hate Russia, and jews control the West. That's why Russia is perceived no different from how the Soviet Union was perceived.

Every 4th Israeli citizen is from Soviet Union and Russian language has the official status in Israel

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06-05-2019, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by StefanG

Since I promised to myself to be more civil, I will refrain from saying what I really want say and just let you both know that I fundamentally disagree.

Enjoy the day!

Well, just look up how the rest of the EU think about Nordstream II and their views. It is all about Germany Germany Germany. That is not what i say, it is what other countries say.

And in the Dutch Ukrain referendum in Holland they put even an extra piece of paper in it that Holland doesn't want Ukrain to join EU and Holland doesn't want to work together on military issues with Ukrain. You can look that up also.

So it is no use to argue with me, better try to convice all other countries that disagree with German views. And now Russia and Germany try to divide EU countries to ask them to join the project offering $$$$.

https://www.aljazeera.com/ajimpact/r...115459499.html

And it is so simple, built two nuclear reactors and holland doesn't need any gas. Or shall we wait 50 years for the "energy transition".

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