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>> Another Acacia-type company to worry about

08-24-2003, 09:26 AM

USA Video has a patent that pre-dates Acacia's patents.

They are claiming the ownership to the process of downloading videos from a (web) server.

USA Video is suing MovieLink.com for patent infringement.

USA Video becomes the THIRD company that FightThePatent.com is tracking.

Imagine the absurd situation that Acacias wins their patent lawsuits and websites are forced to pay their "licensing fees".

USA Video could easily roll through and demand similar "license fees".

USA Video information is being tracked at: http://www.fightthepatent.com/USVO.html

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08-24-2003, 09:32 AM

The more, the merrier...

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08-24-2003, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by Gemini
The more, the merrier...

ya, if you were a lawyer

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08-24-2003, 09:45 AM

I better get in on this patent thing.

I will be patenting a process of marking the hard drive space occupied by lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures as unused, allowing the hard drive space to be reused by other applications and files, including but not limited to other lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures.

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08-24-2003, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by FATPad
I better get in on this patent thing.

I will be patenting a process of marking the hard drive space occupied by lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures as unused, allowing the hard drive space to be reused by other applications and files, including but not limited to other lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures.

sorry, the Simpsons already patented that

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08-24-2003, 09:54 AM

Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

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08-24-2003, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Ketadream
Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

ya, but then you will have to probably pay music royalties to the owner of the song:

You are a Zero, and I'm not the One.

Written by the Bit Tones back in like 1969

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08-24-2003, 10:02 AM

ya, if you were a lawyer

Young huh?

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08-24-2003, 10:03 AM

Nice find on the Bit Tones

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08-24-2003, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by Gemini
ya, if you were a lawyer

Young huh?

old enough to know better, dude.

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08-24-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Ketadream
Nice find on the Bit Tones

If your 0's and 1's claim was before 1969, I'd be willing to start Fight-The-O-and-1.com and start bringing awareness to this issue.

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08-24-2003, 10:20 AM

old enough to know ...

Obviously NOT!

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08-24-2003, 10:34 AM

Their stock is worth 7.5 cents...
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08-24-2003, 10:36 AM

vultures are circling

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08-24-2003, 11:21 AM

WTF is MovieLink.com? I'm in Canada, when I go to that page I get this:

"Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers, but it is presently unavailable to users outside of the United States."
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08-24-2003, 11:31 AM

I'm surprised the RIAA/MPAA hasn't purchased ACACIA to sue Kazaa & co.

er...maybe they are in negotiations?

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08-24-2003, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by FightThisPatent

sorry, the Simpsons already patented that

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08-24-2003, 11:52 AM

Has anyone taken on Acacia (or any of the others) in court and WON? I keep waiting to see some sort of info on that but haven't seen on post that talks about winning against Acacia. One big win would really set a great precedent for any future cases down the line.

Anyone know? Anyone?
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08-24-2003, 12:12 PM

Centurion, this isn't a case of grab attorney and go have at it. It's a patent challenge. To the finish. It takes time and a LOT of hearings, motions and all that goobledy goop. It could drag out for a verrrry long time. Appeals and all of that included. So don't plan on a answer sometime next week.

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...

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08-24-2003, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Gemini
Centurion, this isn't a case of grab attorney and go have at it. It's a patent challenge. To the finish. It takes time and a LOT of hearings, motions and all that goobledy goop. It could drag out for a verrrry long time. Appeals and all of that included. So don't plan on a answer sometime next week.

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...

Ok..thanks for the info. But it does seem eventually SOMEONE is going to have to take the plunge..no matter how long it takes.
Seems like Acacia has been winning because the other side settles, or doesn't show up for the court case. (Pretty sure I've read threads about that).
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08-24-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by Rich
WTF is MovieLink.com? I'm in Canada, when I go to that page I get this:

"Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers, but it is presently unavailable to users outside of the United States."

Movielink.com is backed by the 5 movie studios. Maybe they don't allow access to canada due to the encryption (DRM) methods used, etc...

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08-24-2003, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by <IMX>
I'm surprised the RIAA/MPAA hasn't purchased ACACIA to sue Kazaa & co.

er...maybe they are in negotiations?

You bring up a good point..... some of these patents could be used to get Sharman (sp?) networks into court.

They seem to have dodged the legal issues since their kazaa network could be used for legitimate purposes (ie. reference betamax case).

But, one of these patents could be used to get them into court, get discovery info, and tie then up in litigation.. would be like nailing Al Capone for taxes as the way to get him.

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08-24-2003, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Gemini

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...

I agree....... forward any leads you have either to the IMPAI.org website or to me.

It can hurt the defense case if leads and prior art info were released. It is true that through discovery, the defense has to hand over their information, but until then, should be kept quite.

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08-24-2003, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Ketadream
Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

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08-24-2003, 05:44 PM

they keep this shit up and they will wake Al Gore.

He invented the internet, (ask him, he'll tell you )

and then their will be hell to pay.
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08-24-2003, 06:07 PM

Umm, excuse me for interrupting, but umm...
if their patent pre-dates Acacia's and addresses downloading video from a server...
wouldn't that invalidate Acacia's patent?
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08-24-2003, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Carrie
Umm, excuse me for interrupting, but umm...
if their patent pre-dates Acacia's and addresses downloading video from a server...
wouldn't that invalidate Acacia's patent?

At first glance, it could seem that way... but i am sure the Acacia attorneys did their research and would have found this USA Video patent, and probably deemed it to not be the prior art to refute their patents.

The language and the interpretation of a patent is tricky, and it alll comes down to the court to hear both sides and determine the outcome.

The more you learn about this patent stuff, the more disheartening it becomes to see that people are not inventing things, they are just repackaging what they saw, patenting it, then try to make a quick buck without even having to make a product and standing by that product.

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08-25-2003, 05:54 AM

Don't forget, there is also SightSound, making a total of THREE companies that are in the space of patent (abuse) infringement cases... all of which are applicable to websites who have audio/video content.

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08-25-2003, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
they keep this shit up and they will wake Al Gore.

how can you tell if he is awake?

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08-25-2003, 06:23 PM

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As if every dot-com idiot on the planet trying to patent the Internet was not bad enough, now Abercrombie & Fitch claims they own the number "22".

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As if the patent abuse cases weren't silly enough, you see this kind of stuff going on.

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