Shame the radical left attacked her so hard. She has been given so much shit because of her stance on gays tying the knot. She is being attacked for the same thing thats most other contestants do/have. All hail the liberal media.
Shame the radical left attacked her so hard. She has been given so much shit because of her stance on gays tying the knot. She is being attacked for the same thing thats most other contestants do/have. All hail the liberal media.
Exactly. When did it become standard practice to ask someone a question, then when they give an honest answer that disagrees with your views or your idea of what she SHOULD have said you trash her in the media?
Nice to see freedom of speech is alive and well in the good ol' USA.
Exactly. When did it become standard practice to ask someone a question, then when they give an honest answer that disagrees with your views or your idea of what she SHOULD have said you trash her in the media?
Nice to see freedom of speech is alive and well in the good ol' USA.
Say anything about the evils of religion (and back it up with a mountain of hard facts) and you'll get blasted too, and then taken off the air
Trump's lovin' every minute of this..
It's all about publicity, in any form, to him..
I always thought these pageants were about the all American girl image..
Now coke heads get a second chance.. Lie about past activities on the pageant applications.. That's ok too..
The whole thing is going down the tubes.. Trump is doing nothing but sending the message that it doesn't matter what ya do... come sign up..
Yep.. the girl got slammed for no reason, but with the latter, she should have known that lying about past poses would come back to bite her in the ass..
It's really a competition about nothing.. Lots of hotties out there that don't have the need to try to be better that everyone else.. I prefer those..
Exactly. When did it become standard practice to ask someone a question, then when they give an honest answer that disagrees with your views or your idea of what she SHOULD have said you trash her in the media?
Nice to see freedom of speech is alive and well in the good ol' USA.
Was the government going after her? if not its not a freedom of speech issue.
Nice to see freedom of speech is alive and well in the good ol' USA.
Whats freedom of speech have to do with anything? She's free to express her bigot views, just as anyone else is free to express their opinion on her/her views. She can say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, I can say she's a religious nutjob, a bigot, and a hypocrite.
I thought the real problem here was that she did some commercials after the pageant for a religious group whose agenda is to stop gay marriage. And she is supposed to be representing the pageant as Miss California for an entire year per a contract she signed.
So yes, it is Donald Trump's business. For the next year she is a representative for HIM. And to have that religious group use her on their ads without his permission was grounds for termination of her title.
Trump just played it up a bit for publicity (like a good businessman should), and then compassionately let her slide.
That was what really happened with her today. Not the answer she gave at the pageant itself. But her actions in letting herself be used by religious zealots since then while representing herself as "Miss California"
Heard some audio footage of her today on CNN where she says that "Satan" tried to tempt her at the pageant, but "God" helped her to give the "right" answer.
Whats freedom of speech have to do with anything? She's free to express her bigot views, just as anyone else is free to express their opinion on her/her views. She can say gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, I can say she's a religious nutjob, a bigot, and a hypocrite.
Just because she disagrees with you does not make her a bigot. Most people agree with her position on gay marriage. They are not all bigots (some probably are) they just have a different opinion on this issue.
Just because she disagrees with you does not make her a bigot. Most people agree with her position on gay marriage. They are not all bigots (some probably are) they just have a different opinion on this issue.
Thank you.
"Freedom of speech" is often used as a catchall phrase that encompasses all such times when someone voices their opinion, in this case one that was ASKED for, and then is subsequently persecuted or otherwise penalized for said opinion.
Others have a right to disagree with her, certainly, but you're not the ones now being raked over the coals for your point of view. She is.
I don't necessarily agree with everything she had to say but I think she's got some decent sized balls to say want she said and now sticking to her guns in the face of this rather ridiculous shitstorm so many people and the media are wagering against her.
She's got a right to her opinion, people (starting with the idiot who asked the question in the first place) disagreed with her, isn't it time to get over it and move on?
Just because she disagrees with you does not make her a bigot. Most people agree with her position on gay marriage. They are not all bigots (some probably are) they just have a different opinion on this issue.
They probably wouldn't be that way if they weren't so FUCKED UP with religion. You are not born hating people because of what they do. You are TAUGHT, or better, BRAINWASHED, to hate them by your parents or Sunday school teachers.
The amazing part of this is that the red states consume the MOST porn. Fucking bible thumper hypocrites! They rail again the evils of porn but in the dead of night, when no one is looking, they log on and get off. I post on a lot of conservative web forums and I always tell them that the only difference between you and me is that we both are interested in sex, but I don't fucking lie about it.
Ted Haggard preaching against homosexuals while doing meth and having sex with male hustlers; Jimmy Swaggart preaching against pornography while frequently visiting prostitutes; Jim Baker telling the flock to be faithful to their wives while screwing Jessica Hahn; Oral Roberts tell people he will die if they don't send him money; Benny Hinn and Robert Tilton stealing the last dollars from old ladies and buying cars and mansions all over the world. FUCK THESE HYPOCRITES.
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One of my pet peeves is the incorrect use of the word bigot....
One that dislikes gays is not a bigot, might not even be a homophobe, since "phobe" means fear.
Dislike of someone because of race makes one a racist.
To be a bigot one needs to dislike somone because of religion.
They are not interchangable.
In one sense I agree with you. I am personally VERY TURNED OFF by the thought of homosexual sex. But I have had lots of gay friends and they are some of the nicest people I know. They knew about my views but weren't offended; they felt the same way about heterosexual sex. It is OK to think that homosexual sex is wrong, but that is where it needs to end -- with you. The reason I detest the religious right so much is that they go out of their way to lobby the government to deny same sex couples the same rights they enjoy. What two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom is NONE OF MY FUCKING BUSINESS. It is not for me to tell others what to do with their lives. It pisses me off that right wing groups are so up in arms about hate crimes legislation. They claim it will permit the government to prosecute them for speaking out against homosexuality from the pulpit. They say gays don't NEED extra protection. When I was in grad school, one of my gay friends left a gay bar alone and was pulled over by two rednecks who followed him. They proceeded to bash his skull in and send him to the hospital. These right wing idiots don't have a fucking clue.
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Shame the radical left attacked her so hard. She has been given so much shit because of her stance on gays tying the knot. She is being attacked for the same thing thats most other contestants do/have. All hail the liberal media.
She is being attacked because she had an opinion and when asked she spoke the truth.. I dont blame her.
Just so you know, "fags" are what people on the other side of the pond call their cigarettes.
A more accurate term for the poofters Miss California offended would be "pillow biters".
I know what people on the other side of the pond call their cigs. This story isn't unfolding over there though.
But I really should take this moment to credit The Truth Hurts with writing the bulk of that post (posted on JBM yesterday). I don't often find myself in agreement with everything he says but once in a while he hits a gem out of the park. Thanks TTH.
Oh great, now perez hilton/judge number 8 is going to do his own LIVE appearance on msnbc in 50 minutes. Wonder if he'll have comments like "she's a bitch" again today.
I can't imagine or more whiney baby than this guy. For petes sake he doesnt like her answer then calls her a bitch, then apologizes on his website to her, then takes it back on live tv and says he shoulda called her the "c" word instead of the "b" word. What a whack!
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