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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
So don't bother to build a wall, stop or deport illegals come through legally and become illegal, stop illegal drugs coming into the country, etc. Because no one measure will stop it all.
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I sure as fuck am not saying don't bother to stop or deport. But, from everything I here from Reps and Dems, nobody has an answer that is actually going to fix a damn thing. As far as border security goes, I am ALL for beefing up the border where needed. However, I fully beleive that a physical wall, as much as they are asking for , and for the price... is not the answer. We need drones, sensors, man power. The levels of people crossing illegally are going down. We don't need walls where people are not coming across.
So you are trying to make the case for the wall or no?
You said it yourself, NO ONE ANSWER WILL STOP IT ALL. And it sure as fuck is not going to be a wall. I'll get back to that in a sec. However, that wall is going to cost 5 to 10 times more than what he is even asking for. The money is going to go into mostly Mexican companies like Cemex. It is not going stimulate our economy.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
Great logic. For a five year old.
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Oh man. How about stop thinking like a dumb neanderthal? In my mind, you are the one thinking like a 5 year old. The logic that a wall is going to curb illegals is exactly what I would expect from someone with very little experience in solutions. There is a reason the wall plays well in the minds of republican voters. It's the same mentality that got us in trouble in Iraq. Was going into Iraq the smartest solution? I think we all know the answer to that and the result of that mistake. The wall is going to cost us. Not just now, but well into the future. It is NOT going to be effective enough for the price. Our money would be better spent on things that are actually going to make difference and at a lesser cost.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
But what happens when someone finds away around those measures, do you abandon them or come up with new ones?
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How ironic you would say that. Because I can ask you the same thing. With the difference, in that people already know of ways to get around, over, or under the wall.
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham
A law that throws employers and landlords into jail and forces them to pay fines that pay for the costs would be great. But do you really believe corporate America will allow that?
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NO. Corporate America will not allow that, and neither would consumers when prices start to go up.
The wall is nothing but a facade. American Capitalism loves illegal immigration. There have already been businesses that have complained to the government that they need work visas for foriegn workers. About a year ago, Trump had denied tens of thousands of work visas, and some companies were hit hard. They complained, and Trump had to bring those work visas back. This is a shining example of the complexities of this issue. What it should ultimatly tell any rational thinking person, is that as long as there is American Capitalism, there is going to be illegal immigration and evaporation of good paying jobs for legally born Americans.
Thus making paying for the wall an even more senseless and mind numbing painful mistake.