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There is money in VHS again.

02-25-2019, 05:55 PM

First, it was vinyl that returned and now VHS cassettes are starting to resurface. Well, I learned a long time ago that in the entertainment industry that everything somehow always has a comeback.

The nostalgia market is growing and I suspect a lot of this growth is because people's lives have become saturated by technology. Simply put they've had enough and their buying preferences are changing. For example, today's 18 to 25-year-olds are more likely to prefer shopping at an old fashion brick and mortar store than they are to go to Amazon. -- Don't get me wrong... I don't see Amazon losing any business any time soon.

The fact remains that there are growing opportunities to cash in on the current trends and if the consumer wants VHS then why shouldn't it be sold to them?

Urban Outfitters among the stores that are selling tapes.:

https://www.circa.com/video/2019/02/...esque-comeback

Your Old Disney VHS Tapes Are Currently Being Valued at Thousands on Ebay:

(OK we produce smut but old copies of Deep Throat on VHS are going to be worth a fair coin like Disney cartoons)

https://www.oprahmag.com/entertainme...s-tapes-value/

VHS Boxes have made a comeback:
(Not true VHS and just the packaging but I think this is just a symptom of the consumer actually wanting to "hold" something.)

VHS Boxes Are Back: Meet Home Video'''s Latest Retro Trend

VHS movies being sold in a Target.
Are VHS Tapes Making a Comeback in the Hudson Valley?

I was never comfortable selling content or owning subscription-based sites but I suspect that has more to do with Jim the Fiend than anything else. However mailorder has always done well and I speculate that the consumer's need to actually hold and own something will dominate in the forseeable future.

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02-25-2019, 05:57 PM

Fuck me, me and my siblings still have every Disney vhs scattered among us. All the perverted shit intact. Nice.
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02-25-2019, 07:00 PM

Wait'll the Gen-Xers get a load of this new tech.
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02-25-2019, 07:05 PM

I've noticed that old TVs are making a comeback. Not that they are being made again, but they are getting hard to find because people hit the thrift stores and garage sales looking for them, to play their old VHS tapes and vintage videogames on.

That stuff looks pretty shitty on new TVs.
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02-25-2019, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Wait'll the Gen-Xers get a load of this new tech.

Gen X grew up with ViewMasters.

I think you're thinking of Gen Y & Gen Z
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02-25-2019, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Wait'll the Gen-Xers get a load of this new tech.

umm Gen-Xers are in their 40's we had those things..

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02-26-2019, 02:53 AM

Originally posted by Mr Pheer

I've noticed that old TVs are making a comeback. Not that they are being made again, but they are getting hard to find because people hit the thrift stores and garage sales looking for them, to play their old VHS tapes and vintage videogames on.

That stuff looks pretty shitty on new TVs.

Well they haven't hit the mainstream stores yet.

However now that you've mentioned it I do recall seeing an antique store with a sign saying they paid cash for very old TVs.

Plus I stumbled across this article about vacuum tubes making a comeback

Cathode Ray Tube TVs Make Roaring Comeback Nationwide

“Any time you need to operate at the outer reaches of the power-frequency parameter space, vacuum tubes are the technology of choice,” said Dev Palmer of DARPA’s new Innovative Vacuum Electronic Science and Technology (INVEST) program in a statement.

Through INVEST, DARPA is now taking vacuum tubes back to the drawing board. The agency hopes to overcome some of the engineering challenges that historically placed upper limits on the operating frequency and power output of tubes. For instance, in the render shown above, a vacuum tube amplifies signals by exchanging kinetic energy in an electron beam (the blue line) with electromagnetic energy (the orange wave). Concepts like this could push vacuum tube performance to new heights.

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02-26-2019, 03:32 AM

True story - Two VHS cassettes in their boxes were left in my local public toilets yesterday. The top one was 'The Matrix' bit I didn't look at the one beneath it, cause I was too busy looking into the bowls of the toilets.

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02-26-2019, 04:42 AM

That would be a nostalgic fap for me . . .

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02-26-2019, 08:02 AM

For the love of god why would anyone want to watch anything on VHS?

Vinyl I can understand... There is something about the quality of the sound that is "old school". With VHS... It's just crappy all around. Laserdisk I can see making a come back, but not VHS.

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02-26-2019, 08:04 AM

Don't count on it, NotInMyBackYard. Here's what I think:

VHS is a nostalgic throwback, yes, but it's just Kitch. It's something for someone to have to look at and talk about at parties, nothing more.

VHS might be interesting to some sure, but only the original machines and original tapes would grab their interest. Anyone who buys a new tape today would buy a popular movie or TV show on VHS, and only popular movies would be re-issued on VHS.

If you think you are going to shoot new content and issue it on VHS and make money today with it, forget it. It will cost you a lot of extra money for a market that doesn't exist anymore. Anyone who wants porn today will grab it online.

Vinyl has made a comeback but for completely different reasons. Some think it sounds better (it doesn't). Some prefer the sound of vinyl which is fair, but no one ever is going to say that VHS looks or sounds better than streaming media. And then there's the convenience. Porn + your favourite scene is just a click away. Who wants to jam a tape into a machine and fast-forward for 20 minutes? And besides, that section of the tape will be worn out after 10 viewings or less. Fuck that noise..!

If you're Hollywood, there is an opportunity here to take advantage of this market. If you're a porn producer, there's nothing for you here.
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02-26-2019, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by 2MuchMark

Vinyl has made a comeback but for completely different reasons. Some think it sounds better (it doesn't). Some prefer the sound of vinyl which is fair, but no one ever is going to say that VHS looks or sounds better than streaming media.

Actually, Vinyl never went away. It just became a niche business. Most club tracks were continually released on Vinyl for DJs. We have a number of real record stores in Australia that never stopped selling vinyl.
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02-26-2019, 08:29 AM

I think the primary draw to vinyl played on vintage equipment was to have it sound as originally intended. There's a difference between that and 70s rock on modern Beats headphones or whatever.
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02-26-2019, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by crockett

umm Gen-Xers are in their 40's we had those things..

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02-26-2019, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Actually, Vinyl never went away. It just became a niche business. Most club tracks were continually released on Vinyl for DJs. We have a number of real record stores in Australia that never stopped selling vinyl.

You live in Australia

ABBA is still "hot" in Australia (which I love)

Australia is falling behind when it comes to digital and technological skills

Your country is infamously decades behind the times (which I liked when I lived there for 5 years) so when you make comments about trends just remember where you live

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02-26-2019, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

For the love of god why would anyone want to watch anything on VHS?

Honestly, why would you care? If someone wants smut on VHS or Super 8mm and you're in a position to sell it to them... Then what does it matter?

I don't understand what someone saw in most of the shit I used to produce because it was pure crap by my standards. (fuck sakes I filmed people taking a shit and it sold really well).

I've got all the old equipment in storage and I've got a fair number of never open VHS titles that I wouldn't mind seeing spike in value. After all, money is money and it's better in my pocket than someone else's.

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If you think you are going to shoot new content and issue it on VHS and make money today with it, forget it. It will cost you a lot of extra money for a market that doesn't exist anymore. Anyone who wants porn today will grab it online.

You fuck around with cam software and I don't. However unless you're putting money in my pocket I really don't care what it is you do. Therefore you worry about what you do and I'll worry about what I'll do.

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02-26-2019, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

Originally posted by Rochard

For the love of god why would anyone want to watch anything on VHS?

Honestly, why would you care?

Why talk to him like that? You posted a statement in a public forum of which you are both a member. He's asking a question that makes total sense - why watch anything on VHS ?

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

If someone wants smut on VHS or Super 8mm and you're in a position to sell it to them... Then what does it matter?

No one wants smut on VHS anymore. And anyone that wants it on Super 8 wants it for collectable reasons.

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

I don't understand what someone saw in most of the shit I used to produce because it was pure crap by my standards.

You said it first!

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

(fuck sakes I filmed people taking a shit and it sold really well).

Good for you.

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

I've got all the old equipment in storage and I've got a fair number of never open VHS titles that I wouldn't mind seeing spike in value. After all, money is money and it's better in my pocket than someone else's.

So what are you waiting for? Put some feelers out and get as much as you can for it.

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You fuck around with cam software and I don't.

Right. I make software. You film people taking a shit and wonder why you can't sell it on VHS.

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

However unless you're putting money in my pocket I really don't care what it is you do.

Originally posted by notinmybackyard

Therefore you worry about what you do and I'll worry about what I'll do.

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02-26-2019, 09:45 AM

Does anyone else find NotInMyBackyard's signature picture ultra creepy?
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02-26-2019, 10:16 AM

Cassette tapes were coming back for a short time as well.. The hipsters were all over them.

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02-26-2019, 11:22 AM

I don't understand it. VHS tapes degrade over time, no matter how well they are stored.
And the quality isn't that great to begin with.

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02-26-2019, 12:38 PM

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Does anyone else find NotInMyBackyard's signature picture ultra creepy?

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02-26-2019, 12:39 PM

how much data could you put on VHS im wonderin..
and what's with VHS mining)))
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02-26-2019, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Londes

how much data could you put on VHS im wonderin..
and what's with VHS mining)))
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02-26-2019, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by SilentKnight

Wait'll the Gen-Xers get a load of this new tech.

imagine porn on one of those!!

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02-26-2019, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by HowlingWulf

I don't understand it. VHS tapes degrade over time, no matter how well they are stored.
And the quality isn't that great to begin with.

It's for the aesthetic really. Same with Vinyl. Vinyl made a come back and became trendy because it sounded "warmer" and people enjoyed having a physical collection of music that they could pick up and hold, rather than scroll through.

Same could happen with porn but I don't see VHS being the medium that gains any traction like Vinyl did. It will most likely be 1tb micro SD's filled with Pornhub dumps that folks embed into their brains

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02-26-2019, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

Laserdisk I can see making a come back, but not VHS.

A comeback? Seriously? How many people did you know that owned a Lazerdisk? I think I remember seeing one, ever.
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02-26-2019, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by CjTheFish

It's for the aesthetic really. .....

and people enjoyed having a physical collection of music that they could pick up and hold, rather than scroll through.

Honestly if I had to take a guess why there's a market for VHS then what you just said would be a huge part of that guess.

I also think technology has gotten a bit ridiculous. I mean we've gone from HD to 4K and then to what next?? Having our eyeballs removed so can put USB sockets in our skulls to create a 10TB video emersion experience?

So I'm sure for many people they're thinking the same thing about the tech and that this is in some way part of the reason for the resurgence of VHS.

Originally posted by CjTheFish

imagine porn on one of those!!

I don't have to imagine. The used to sell the cameras and film for them. However I just used them for things like family affairs and vacation photos. I don't recall ever having sold smut.

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I don't understand it..

What's to understand? All you have to do is give the consumer what it wants.

On the best of days, the consumer is a colicky baby that only shuts up when it has something to distract it.

So if today the baby wants 3D VR porn and tomorrow it wants finger painted tits... as long as it has money to pay for it then that's all that's important.

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02-27-2019, 12:41 AM

The quality of VHS was never that great. Especially since, we're talking about the days when video signals, even on cable tv, was the end result of a long chain of analog equipment, from source to destination.

I've experimented with recording HD DTV to VHS. And the playback quality is vastly superior to anything recorded back in the day, simply due to the source signal being pristine. Video that doesn't have super fine detail, like 3D animation, is pretty well visually indistinguishable from the source. This is confirmed with MSU VQMT video comparison.

On the other hand, real-life video with super fine detail (a valley as far as you can see, full of trees with leaves) is where VHS suffers the most. MSU VQMT reported the greatest loss of video quality with this kind of scenery.

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02-27-2019, 03:32 AM

VHS players sell well on Ebay. Some people, like my wife, don't like flat screen TVs. She loves her shitty 30 something inch tube TV I got with my ARS points 20 years ago.
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