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  • alias
    aliasx
    • Apr 2001
    • 19010

    #51
    Jennie, tits or gtfo!
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    • _andy_
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      • Feb 2006
      • 487

      #52
      She is obviously a person of deep intelligence and recognizes there are areas of her life that need attention. I don't see it as Dr. Drew trying to "brainwash" her. I think he just wants her to grow into a flourishing human being. And getting fucked up and fucking with no emotional connection ultimately isn't a sustainably healthy way of life.

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      • TheAmericanCannibal
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2006
        • 3087

        #53
        Jenny is a wonderful person, and I am proud to call her a friend.
        She is doing REALLY well.

        I am happy that she has found her inner peace, and you all will be very surprissed to see how talented she is away from porn sets.

        Unlike so many girls in this business who only have one trick- and it's usually just using their vaginas...she has a lot to offer the mainstream world.

        She is going to be a HUMONGOUS personality on the show- and will parlay this into a great career for herself.

        You will all have to see the show when it airs in August to understand the depths of how low Jenny was- she had reached her bottom.

        be sure to check out her new blog becomingjenny.com

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        • Trixxxia
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          • Aug 2004
          • 5600

          #54
          Originally posted by Shap
          After reading that I wish her well. The blog is well written and seems to be sincere. I don't see her knocking anyone or telling anyone to live a certain way. She's not saying what's right or wrong. She's just trying to find out what's right for her. How can you not respect that?

          You guys knocking her or attacking her are real douche bags.
          I have to agree with that - there's nothing wrong with someone in search of what will make HER happy and fulfilled. Everyones' got demons and skeltons and things that make you unhappy - it's what you do to change the course of your life and improve it to satisfy YOURSELF that is to be commended.

          Do what you have to do to be happy, Jennie!

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          • selena
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            • Aug 2004
            • 7995

            #55
            Originally posted by _andy_
            She is obviously a person of deep intelligence and recognizes there are areas of her life that need attention. I don't see it as Dr. Drew trying to "brainwash" her. I think he just wants her to grow into a flourishing human being. And getting fucked up and fucking with no emotional connection ultimately isn't a sustainably healthy way of life.
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            • PSSuperstars
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              • Jan 2006
              • 1477

              #56
              Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
              Jenny is a wonderful person, and I am proud to call her a friend.
              She is doing REALLY well.

              I am happy that she has found her inner peace, and you all will be very surprissed to see how talented she is away from porn sets.

              Unlike so many girls in this business who only have one trick- and it's usually just using their vaginas...she has a lot to offer the mainstream world.

              She is going to be a HUMONGOUS personality on the show- and will parlay this into a great career for herself.

              You will all have to see the show when it airs in August to understand the depths of how low Jenny was- she had reached her bottom.

              be sure to check out her new blog becomingjenny.com
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              • WarChild
                Let slip the dogs of war.
                • Jan 2003
                • 17263

                #57
                No little girl wants to grow up to be a porn whore. Good for her getting out. Maybe now she can use her brain and not her vagina for a living.
                .

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                • Raf1
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                  • Oct 2003
                  • 12117

                  #58
                  from what I read in her blog, I think it's the best thing for her at this moment.
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                  • mvee
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                    • Jan 2007
                    • 938

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Trixxxia
                    I have to agree with that - there's nothing wrong with someone in search of what will make HER happy and fulfilled. Everyones' got demons and skeletons and things that make you unhappy - it's what you do to change the course of your life and improve it to satisfy YOURSELF that is to be commended.

                    Do what you have to do to be happy, Jennie!
                    Well said.

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                    • thehand
                      235 Pound Gorilla
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 3470

                      #60
                      I saw her a few days before she went in to treatment & she didn't seem to be at her lowest. I am sincerely happy for her decision to bail out from being in front of the camera . She is an awesome person away from the set, which is the only way i know her
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                      • Honez
                        Confirmed Brat
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 6636

                        #61
                        Originally posted by PSSuperstars
                        Wow I kept reading..
                        That's some serious brainwashing there...

                        yeah the alcohol is bad... but what if that personality really WAS her... and she's got all these moral nut jobs trying to twist and contort her brain?

                        I mean if you're already a porn girl with some self esteem issues... and Big Nice Daddy Figure Dr. Drew comes along... he's going to be able to manipulate you too.

                        I have a feeling that if Penny's personality is indeed Jennie's personality, she will find that out.

                        I give her huge kudos for realizing that she needed to make some changes and actually following through. It is going to be a tough road for her to go down but, after reading her blog I truly believe if anyone can approach recovery with a kickass attitude, it will be Jennie.
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                        • TheAmericanCannibal
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 3087

                          #62
                          Originally posted by thehand
                          I saw her a few days before she went in to treatment & she didn't seem to be at her lowest. I am sincerely happy for her decision to bail out from being in front of the camera . She is an awesome person away from the set, which is the only way i know her
                          U obviously weren't in her room at the PHX forum
                          Where she was holed up in a room with hookers and blow for two days....


                          We always miss the good shit don't we?

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                          • rokstarz
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                            • Dec 2008
                            • 83

                            #63
                            Originally posted by PridebucksSteve
                            She's not happy with her life, so she's changing it. Not sure what has so many people upset about that. Maybe it makes us reflect on the parts of our own lives that we don't like, and that makes some people uncomfortable?
                            I change things in my life that I am not happy with all the time. Yet, I don't feel the need to blog about it or publicize it. She is an attention whore trying to squeeze an extra minute out of that 15 minutes of fame.
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                            • Nicky
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                              • Mar 2003
                              • 30071

                              #64
                              I like Jennie.

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                              • cherrylula
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                                • Jan 2002
                                • 15969

                                #65
                                Good for her! Go Jennie.

                                it is a long road to sobriety, but the rewards are great.

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                                • jmk
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 5391

                                  #66
                                  I wish her the best! She's a cool cat in my book

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                                  • TheAmericanCannibal
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                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 3087

                                    #67
                                    Aaliyah Love and I make a cameo appearance on the show-
                                    It was a heavy day at Celeb Rehab.....

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                                    • Roald
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                                      • May 2001
                                      • 27910

                                      #68
                                      Jenny for president!


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                                      • LiveDose
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                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 25792

                                        #69
                                        Good luck to you Jennie. Hope life brings you what you are searching for!

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                                        • selena
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                                          • Aug 2004
                                          • 7995

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by rokstarz
                                          I change things in my life that I am not happy with all the time. Yet, I don't feel the need to blog about it or publicize it. She is an attention whore trying to squeeze an extra minute out of that 15 minutes of fame.
                                          I have a feeling she could have more than 15 minutes, if she wanted it. I personally never promoted her outside of her Kink stuff, but I did see her trailer that kicked ass, and she's obviously got a brain lurking in there.

                                          So if she can clean up her act, and find out who she is, she'd probably be awesome in other aspects of non-adult entertainment on stuff. KB alluded to it above, I don't watch those types of reality shows to know what the names of any of them are.

                                          Or she may figure herself out, and decide that she wants to be far away from anything like that, and end up being a quilter living in North Dakota.

                                          More power to her, either way.
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                                          • thehand
                                            235 Pound Gorilla
                                            • Apr 2003
                                            • 3470

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                                            U obviously weren't in her room at the PHX forum
                                            Where she was holed up in a room with hookers and blow for two days....


                                            We always miss the good shit don't we?

                                            Actually I did see her, but it was briefly on the street in front of the Palms, She hides it well then. But I do I agree w/ your post & wish her the very best.

                                            BTW - Airek & I hit westlake yesterday, we are thinking about Los Robles soon & we could use a 3rd
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                                            • alias
                                              aliasx
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 19010

                                              #72
                                              Congrats on putting down the pipe Jennie! btw some of you appear to be misspelling her name as Jenny.
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                                              • Trixxxia
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                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 5600

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by rokstarz
                                                I change things in my life that I am not happy with all the time. Yet, I don't feel the need to blog about it or publicize it. She is an attention whore trying to squeeze an extra minute out of that 15 minutes of fame.
                                                There could be soooo many ways to see the picture - I can see your point and then I could also see it as an excercise on confronting the issue on a grand scale, rather than curling up into a cave and starting off new - without acknowledging to the world (or anyone that would listen) that she has hurt, embarassed, perhaps emotionally scarred others along her path. It could be part of her therapy.

                                                Either way - it seems to be helping her on her journey - so it doesn't really matter how we see it.

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                                                • Sebastian Sands
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                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                  • 5223

                                                  #74
                                                  I have seen this many of times, they come and then go.. and then they come again...

                                                  Didn't even read the story btw

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                                                  • selena
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                                                    • Aug 2004
                                                    • 7995

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Trixxxia
                                                    There could be soooo many ways to see the picture - I can see your point and then I could also see it as an excercise on confronting the issue on a grand scale, rather than curling up into a cave and starting off new - without acknowledging to the world (or anyone that would listen) that she has hurt, embarassed, perhaps emotionally scarred others along her path. It could be part of her therapy.

                                                    Either way - it seems to be helping her on her journey - so it doesn't really matter how we see it.
                                                    Total thread jack, but hiya, hon!

                                                    Ironically enough, I was just thinking about you this morning, and realized I hadn't seen you around for awhile.
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                                                    • Trixxxia
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                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                      • 5600

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by selena
                                                      Total thread jack, but hiya, hon!

                                                      Ironically enough, I was just thinking about you this morning, and realized I hadn't seen you around for awhile.
                                                      Hiya selena been working on a new project for awhile - kept myself busy and off the boards for quite some time (reading yes, writing or commenting, rarely) ;)

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                                                      • Mutt
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Sep 2002
                                                        • 34431

                                                        #77
                                                        it would be nice if we had reached the point where young girls/women enter this industry because they are simply just comfortable with their bodies and sexuality, exhibitionists, and turn it into a money making career while they're young and desirable.

                                                        ain't the case, 90% of porn girls, are Jennie Ketcham's - and worse, some much much worse.

                                                        Porn in and of itself in my mind is healthy, normal and absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Healthy porn is out there, it's on the true amateur sites, like Redclouds. It's girls in their own bedrooms doing striptease videos etc. LA and Prague, the centers of the world's hardcore porn industry - sorry, but they rely on the vulnerabilities and weaknesses of mostly very screwed up young girls or desperate girls.

                                                        Softcore and solo girl site models - same thing, just to a lesser degree usually.

                                                        Can't blame the porn industry for her problems - we are just the beneficiaries of them. We take them in, a nest for birds with damaged wings - some exploit them and add to the damage - others just make use of them, treat them well and with respect and forget about them after the shoots are done - just business.

                                                        I'm no genius but I saw this one coming years ago. She talks about her alcholol dependence, odd that she leaves out her weed addiction.

                                                        At this point she's not pointing any fingers at the industry in general or people from it in particular - she still has people from the industry she considers friends I'm sure. With time if she really does make the break with the industry that will change.
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                                                        • LeRoy
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                                                          • Jul 2007
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                                                          #78
                                                          Coke is fucking nightmare. Hope she's ok and doing well.
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                                                          • TheAmericanCannibal
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                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                            • 3087

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by thehand
                                                            Actually I did see her, but it was briefly on the street in front of the Palms, She hides it well then. But I do I agree w/ your post & wish her the very best.

                                                            BTW - Airek & I hit westlake yesterday, we are thinking about Los Robles soon & we could use a 3rd
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                                                            • TheAmericanCannibal
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                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                              • 3087

                                                              #80
                                                              Mutt-
                                                              Your post is great and on the money.

                                                              As far as her nor referring to her weed addiction, addiction is addiction.
                                                              I used to have a problem, I went to some meetings- but overall had a problem with them calling me an alcoholic.

                                                              I never drank, and hated booze- I only drank while I was "chasing the dragon" so to speak.
                                                              So in the sober world...everyone is labeled an alcoholic if they have some kind of substance abuse problem.

                                                              It's just traditional nomenclature in the recovery world

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                                                              • fris
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                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 55818

                                                                #81
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                                                                • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                  • Sep 2006
                                                                  • 4007

                                                                  #82
                                                                  so she is on celebrity rehab show with dr drew?

                                                                  if you are going to recover from any addiction you might as well get some exposure from it...

                                                                  but i can see porn girls falling into this trap where they develop an alter ego within themselves who is fun, strong and party happy etc..
                                                                  it is a double edged sword as sooner or later the person possible relates more to the alter ego than to their original personality..
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                                                                  • alias
                                                                    aliasx
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 19010

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                    odd that she leaves out her weed addiction.
                                                                    No offense but there is no fucking way in hell this is about weed buddy.

                                                                    This is Crack, Rox, Base, Hard.. Call it what you will. Disassociation is the only way for her to win this battle Jennie is waging with herself.
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                                                                    • _andy_
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                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                      • 487

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Read her blog she says it's about alcohol

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                                                                      • badmunchkin
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                                                                        • Feb 2003
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                                                                        #85
                                                                        good luck to her, seems like a smart girl. Personally I hate Dr Drew, he tells women that owning their sexuality is abnormal - he's stuck in the dark ages of psychology.

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                                                                        • alias
                                                                          aliasx
                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                          • 19010

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by _andy_
                                                                          Read her blog she says it's about alcohol
                                                                          I read between lines. No pun intended.
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                                                                          • _andy_
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                                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                                            • 487

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I don't think Dr. Drew "tells women that owning their sexuality is abnormal." I think he just drew the connection to Mary Cary's job and her drug addiction. I haven't seen the Penny Flame show yet though obviously.

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                                                                            • notime
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                                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                                              • 8027

                                                                              #88
                                                                              "My biggest fear is that in being myself and writing what I feel, I will not be loved. "
                                                                              (from Jennie's blog)

                                                                              Jennie (if you can read this),
                                                                              If you cannot be yourself, say how you feel or don't feel loved,
                                                                              maybe you need to look for people that give you the opposite feeling and DO make you feel at ease and respect you for who you are and love you anyway no matter what.

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                                                                              • Deej
                                                                                I make pixels work
                                                                                • Jun 2005
                                                                                • 24386

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by PridebucksSteve
                                                                                She's not happy with her life, so she's changing it. Not sure what has so many people upset about that. Maybe it makes us reflect on the parts of our own lives that we don't like, and that makes some people uncomfortable?
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                                                                                • badmunchkin
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                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by _andy_
                                                                                  I don't think Dr. Drew "tells women that owning their sexuality is abnormal." I think he just drew the connection to Mary Cary's job and her drug addiction. I haven't seen the Penny Flame show yet though obviously.
                                                                                  If you listen to his radio show, anytime a girl says she enjoys no-strings sex, it means she was abused as a child. It's funny as hell when he asks them if they were abused & half the time he's dead wrong. Could it be that some women actually like sex? Just like guys? Nooooooooo.

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                                                                                  • Porn Producer
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Dec 2008
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                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Jennie's got a gun!

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                                                                                    • JP-pornshooter
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                                                                                      • Sep 2006
                                                                                      • 4007

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by badmunchkin
                                                                                      If you listen to his radio show, anytime a girl says she enjoys no-strings sex, it means she was abused as a child. It's funny as hell when he asks them if they were abused & half the time he's dead wrong. Could it be that some women actually like sex? Just like guys? Nooooooooo.
                                                                                      apparently she is then a sex addict..
                                                                                      i guess all guys are sex addicts then?
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                                                                                      • pornguy
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                                                                                        • Mar 2003
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                                                                                        #93



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                                                                                        • Nikki_Licks
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                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          We wish her well with what ever she decides to do in the future. She was always a kick in the ass to be around.
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                                                                                          • badmunchkin
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                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by JP-pornshooter
                                                                                            apparently she is then a sex addict..
                                                                                            i guess all guys are sex addicts then?
                                                                                            yea, if we're talking about guys, anything goes. But Dr Drew always talks about how women need an emotional connection for sex. (I listen to his show sometimes just because he pisses me off so much, haha!)

                                                                                            Maybe some do it because it feels good? It's really fucking sexist, women should be pissed but most seem to eat it up like candy. The truth is our closest living relatives are the bonobos, look at their lifestyle sometime: the girls fuck girls, guys, young, old, it doesn't matter - everyone's fucking everyone. Monogamy is only a human social construct.

                                                                                            The only difference between men and women is men's sex drives are (usually) higher then womens due to testosterone. Women with higher testosterone levels have higher sex drives. Piss on all this emotional connection bullshit.
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                                                                                            • A.J. Angel
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                                                                                              • Nov 2007
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                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              I hope Penny... no... Jennie, all the best wishes for the future.

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                                                                                              • AaliyahLove
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                                                                                                • Apr 2008
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                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by stonehammer
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                                                                                                • dig420
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                                                                                                  • May 2001
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                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Good for her. I always thought she was a little too intelligent to base her whole life on smoking weed, getting fucked and being the wildest chick at the party. That shit just gets old.

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                                                                                                  • tony299
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                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 57021

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                    it would be nice if we had reached the point where young girls/women enter this industry because they are simply just comfortable with their bodies and sexuality, exhibitionists, and turn it into a money making career while they're young and desirable.

                                                                                                    ain't the case, 90% of porn girls, are Jennie Ketcham's - and worse, some much much worse.

                                                                                                    Porn in and of itself in my mind is healthy, normal and absolutely nothing to be ashamed of. Healthy porn is out there, it's on the true amateur sites, like Redclouds. It's girls in their own bedrooms doing striptease videos etc. LA and Prague, the centers of the world's hardcore porn industry - sorry, but they rely on the vulnerabilities and weaknesses of mostly very screwed up young girls or desperate girls.

                                                                                                    Softcore and solo girl site models - same thing, just to a lesser degree usually.

                                                                                                    Can't blame the porn industry for her problems - we are just the beneficiaries of them. We take them in, a nest for birds with damaged wings - some exploit them and add to the damage - others just make use of them, treat them well and with respect and forget about them after the shoots are done - just business.

                                                                                                    I'm no genius but I saw this one coming years ago. She talks about her alcholol dependence, odd that she leaves out her weed addiction.

                                                                                                    At this point she's not pointing any fingers at the industry in general or people from it in particular - she still has people from the industry she considers friends I'm sure. With time if she really does make the break with the industry that will change.
                                                                                                    I wish her the best of luck. Anything where you are given money you are exploited to some level.when my wife was receptionist at least once a week she would come home crying because her boss was such a bitch.

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                                                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                                                      • Jan 2002
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                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      best of luck Jennie

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