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  • 2MuchMark
    Mark of 2Much.net
    • Aug 2004
    • 51069

    #51
    Originally posted by Dirty F
    I'm starting to like these guys less and less. Looks like a bunch of bitches to me.


    Hi Dirty-F

    Don't. TMM are good people. They make good products and are great to everyone they meet. The important thing here is that TMM actually "built something" and "does something". The person they are suing today is someone who never built anything and had no experience whatsoever in adult, but went way out of her way to trash them on MANY boards. I don't think she was even a customer of theirs who had even seen or used any of their products.

    Poor TMMCharlie had a hard time around Christmas 2007 when the exploit occured and he certainly didn't need this person making his life worse. He really deserves to win this case against her and I hope he does.

    Go TooMuchMedia!

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    • Pleasurepays
      BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
      • Aug 2002
      • 11913

      #52
      well... as if i recall correctly... John basically knew peoples systems were getting accessed with his own admin passwords, and did nothing about it. it didn't happen once or twice. it happened with a lot of people over a very long time period. i dont remember all the dirty details... but i remember enough to know that only a fucking moron would air this out in court and if her attorney has any brains, he will launch a full frontal attack with the facts, start deposing witnesses etc and it won't be pretty for NATS.

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      • Ozarkz
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 2377

        #53
        Is TMM hoping she can't afford a decent lawyer?

        TMM is lucky THEY haven't been sued over this.

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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #54
          Originally posted by Ozarkz

          TMM is lucky THEY haven't been sued over this.
          Exactly!

          They should be fucking lucky.

          And reading this shit i wish they were sued by a dozen people for millions. Fucking hypocrites.

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          • Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE

            #55
            John will you mother my children?

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            • Ozarkz
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 2377

              #56
              You can't sue TMM tho. They have a strangle hold on many businesses in this industry.

              They need to protect TMM so TMM stays online. So they can stay online.

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              • Dirty F
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Jul 2001
                • 59204

                #57
                Originally posted by MarkPrince
                Hi Dirty-F

                Don't. TMM are good people. They make good products and are great to everyone they meet. The important thing here is that TMM actually "built something" and "does something". The person they are suing today is someone who never built anything and had no experience whatsoever in adult, but went way out of her way to trash them on MANY boards. I don't think she was even a customer of theirs who had even seen or used any of their products.

                Poor TMMCharlie had a hard time around Christmas 2007 when the exploit occured and he certainly didn't need this person making his life worse. He really deserves to win this case against her and I hope he does.

                Go TooMuchMedia!
                Wasn't it you who last year or so also was defending some fucking asshole i was having an argument with who was clearly wrong? And i just saw the same posts in Verotel thread. I get this really creepy bro feeling every time i see you post this shit. Even more when you say there can go nothing wrong with Verotel because i met them and they were really nice.

                Let me put it this way...you saying company x are good peeps really doesn't mean shit. So you might as well not. It has no value whatsoever.

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                • 2MuchMark
                  Mark of 2Much.net
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 51069

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Dirty F
                  Wasn't it you who last year or so also was defending some fucking asshole i was having an argument with who was clearly wrong? And i just saw the same posts in Verotel thread. I get this really creepy bro feeling every time i see you post this shit. Even more when you say there can go nothing wrong with Verotel because i met them and they were really nice.

                  Let me put it this way...you saying company x are good peeps really doesn't mean shit. So you might as well not. It has no value whatsoever.
                  Hi DF,

                  All I am saying, is that I have a good opinion of them. The WarmFuzzy I get from them says they're nice people, that they work hard, and that they believe in their product. You are not necessarily wrong (if I said that I apologize) - all I am saying is that this my opinion of them.

                  Shit happens all the time. My opinion is, that the Verotel guys, based on the Warmfuzzies, will have their servers back up soon.

                  That's all I'm saying, Sir DirtyF.

                  Cheers!

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                  • Dirty F
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Jul 2001
                    • 59204

                    #59
                    Originally posted by MarkPrince

                    All I am saying, is that I have a good opinion of them.
                    All im saying is you seem to have a good opinion about all the bro's. Even when shit hits the fans they're still good people. So thats why im saying dont bother to convince me all the time that all these people are good people because your opinion on this subject is worthless.

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                    • Elli
                      Reach for those stars!
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17991

                      #60
                      It'll be very interesting to see if the journalism protection laws apply to online bloggers without official "journalist" designations.
                      email: [email protected]

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                      • TheDoc
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 13827

                        #61
                        Dirty F... Do you ever think before you type?

                        Other companies have sued her... So are they bad companies too? Come on, use your head here. This bitch is attacking people to get her name out in the public, more people should sue her.

                        And I'm not sure what you think went down with TMM back then, but I can already tell from this thread the clueless factor is at 100%. Neglect is a two way door, and not all clients got breached.. if you want to point fingers you may want to use two hands.
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                        • baddog
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Apr 2001
                          • 107089

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Elli
                          It'll be very interesting to see if the journalism protection laws apply to online bloggers without official "journalist" designations.
                          I seem to recall it has in the past.

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                          • Dirty F
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 59204

                            #63
                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                            Dirty F... Do you ever think before you type?
                            No, that's why i'm posting on this board called go fuck yourself.

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                            • lazycash
                              Troll Patrol
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 15214

                              #64
                              Originally posted by RadicalSights
                              Why would anyone even show up to court for something like this. It's not like they can actually do anything to her.

                              The only cases that matter are criminal. Not civil.

                              This is no criminal case. They're just wasting their money and time.
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                              • crockett
                                in a van by the river
                                • May 2003
                                • 76818

                                #65
                                Originally posted by »Rob Content«
                                Is TMM also suing the person who hacked them?
                                Oh come now why on earth would they do that, it's much easier to kill the messenger..
                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                • crockett
                                  in a van by the river
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 76818

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                  Hi Dirty-F

                                  Don't. TMM are good people. They make good products and are great to everyone they meet. The important thing here is that TMM actually "built something" and "does something". The person they are suing today is someone who never built anything and had no experience whatsoever in adult, but went way out of her way to trash them on MANY boards. I don't think she was even a customer of theirs who had even seen or used any of their products.

                                  Poor TMMCharlie had a hard time around Christmas 2007 when the exploit occured and he certainly didn't need this person making his life worse. He really deserves to win this case against her and I hope he does.

                                  Go TooMuchMedia!
                                  Is this the same good people whom didn't bother to tell any of their customers about a security breech, for what a year until someone else made it public? A security breech that allowed their customers personal info to be stolen in for that same year.

                                  Not to mention the whole pornograph thing.. I'm still a little pissy over getting fucked on that one.. With friends like that through, I guess who needs enemies.
                                  In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                  • 2MuchMark
                                    Mark of 2Much.net
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 51069

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by Dirty F
                                    All im saying is you seem to have a good opinion about all the bro's. Even when shit hits the fans they're still good people. So thats why im saying dont bother to convince me all the time that all these people are good people because your opinion on this subject is worthless.
                                    Dirty F,

                                    By posting an opinion on a public forum you invite others to comment or post theirs. If you don't like my opinion, please ignore me.

                                    My opinion may be of value to some people because (a) I know them, (b) I've met them, and (c) I've worked with them, and (d) I trust them.

                                    If you do not Verotel, or have ever met them etc, then your opinion may not hold the same value.

                                    Could I be wrong? Maybe. Could you? Probably.

                                    And that's MY opinion.

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                                    • Ozarkz
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 2377

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                      By posting an opinion on a public forum you invite others to comment or post theirs. If you don't like my opinion, please ignore me.
                                      He's just posting his opinion. You don't like that than ignore him.

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                                      • 2MuchMark
                                        Mark of 2Much.net
                                        • Aug 2004
                                        • 51069

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by RadicalSights
                                        Why would anyone even show up to court for something like this. It's not like they can actually do anything to her.

                                        The only cases that matter are criminal. Not civil.

                                        This is no criminal case. They're just wasting their money and time.

                                        Hi RS,

                                        Of course they need to show up. If you do not appear in court, you are automatically found Guilty and a judgement is rendered against you.

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                                        • Kiwigirl
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                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 2556

                                          #70
                                          Interesting

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                                          • pocketkangaroo
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Jan 2005
                                            • 8452

                                            #71
                                            Wouldn't her best defense be that no one seems to know who the fuck she is and those that do seem to think she was a whackjob?

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                                            • 2MuchMark
                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 51069

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                              He's just posting his opinion. You don't like that than ignore him.
                                              ARGH!!! You're right...

                                              Cheers everyone!

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                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                • Aug 2004
                                                • 51069

                                                #73
                                                Any update on this?

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                                                • Due
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                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                  • 3620

                                                  #74
                                                  Crap, I predict half of GFY going to jail
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                                                  • JenniDahling
                                                    Market Penetration Specialist
                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                    • 5285

                                                    #75
                                                    I met Shellee 2 years ago at our Cybernet party at a swinger house in Tampa. The first thing she did was insult my bartending skills and told me that I had shitty tequila. She then had me fill up her jumbo plastic cup 3/4 of the way with my shitty tequila. She also came back later and took an unopened bottle of shitty tequila with her outside.

                                                    About half an hour later I was walking around giving everyone Jaeger shots and she was in the yard trying to unsuccessfully to makeout with Dirty D. She was staggering, slurring and barefoot.

                                                    The following day I met her at the hotel and she didn't remember me. She was actually pleasant and said she came from Microsoft. During my panel on Marketing, when we opened the floor for questions, she stood up and plugged her service for helping people trademark their company names.

                                                    I ran into her again at Internext Miami. This time she remembered me and told me she left her shoes at Dirty D's house. I explained to her that the house the party was at was not his. After that each time I ran into her, she was drunk and kept telling me she wants her shoes back.
                                                    She also came on to a bunch my male friends at separate times during the show, offering them to be their sugar momma because she had all this Microsoft stock.

                                                    At Webmaster Access LA a few months later, Gonzo introduced us again, and this time I got to spend a little more time with her, her husband, and a friend of hers. We all went to brunch and I thought she was really fun, and pretty witty. I also had an idea that she and her husband can really throw down hard alcohol. She told me she used to consult for Warner Brothers, her husband consults for Microsoft, and they had a lot of money.

                                                    She was also nice enough to give me a pass to the Playboy mansion since they were one of the $10k sponsors for Pornafia and even had painted models.


                                                    The last time I saw her was at Internext Vegas. This time she remembered me. We chatted only for a minute, she was only drinking white wine and said she was waiting for her (adult) daughter to arrive. She asked if we ever got her shoes back. Lol.

                                                    I don't really have an opinion on the lawsuit, other than if my company was being publicly slandered in various places outside of our industry, I would probably take legal recourse.

                                                    I do however wonder if part of her actions were the direct result of drunk writing. I don't have any ill feelings for Shellee, but I do think she has a problem with alcohol. I also get the feeling that she's probably very lonely, even though she and her husband got along, I didn't see a real connection, and as they got more drinks in them an invisible rift seemed to form. I am grateful to her for the opportunity to go to the Mansion for the first time, and I hope she weathers this lawsuit and gets help for her alcoholism.

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                                                    • HorseShit
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 17513

                                                      #76
                                                      Originally posted by JenniDahling
                                                      I met Shellee 2 years ago at our Cybernet party at a swinger house in Tampa. The first thing she did was insult my bartending skills and told me that I had shitty tequila. She then had me fill up her jumbo plastic cup 3/4 of the way with my shitty tequila. She also came back later and took an unopened bottle of shitty tequila with her outside.

                                                      About half an hour later I was walking around giving everyone Jaeger shots and she was in the yard trying to unsuccessfully to makeout with Dirty D. She was staggering, slurring and barefoot.

                                                      The following day I met her at the hotel and she didn't remember me. She was actually pleasant and said she came from Microsoft. During my panel on Marketing, when we opened the floor for questions, she stood up and plugged her service for helping people trademark their company names.

                                                      I ran into her again at Internext Miami. This time she remembered me and told me she left her shoes at Dirty D's house. I explained to her that the house the party was at was not his. After that each time I ran into her, she was drunk and kept telling me she wants her shoes back.
                                                      She also came on to a bunch my male friends at separate times during the show, offering them to be their sugar momma because she had all this Microsoft stock.

                                                      At Webmaster Access LA a few months later, Gonzo introduced us again, and this time I got to spend a little more time with her, her husband, and a friend of hers. We all went to brunch and I thought she was really fun, and pretty witty. I also had an idea that she and her husband can really throw down hard alcohol. She told me she used to consult for Warner Brothers, her husband consults for Microsoft, and they had a lot of money.

                                                      She was also nice enough to give me a pass to the Playboy mansion since they were one of the $10k sponsors for Pornafia and even had painted models.


                                                      The last time I saw her was at Internext Vegas. This time she remembered me. We chatted only for a minute, she was only drinking white wine and said she was waiting for her (adult) daughter to arrive. She asked if we ever got her shoes back. Lol.

                                                      I don't really have an opinion on the lawsuit, other than if my company was being publicly slandered in various places outside of our industry, I would probably take legal recourse.

                                                      I do however wonder if part of her actions were the direct result of drunk writing. I don't have any ill feelings for Shellee, but I do think she has a problem with alcohol. I also get the feeling that she's probably very lonely, even though she and her husband got along, I didn't see a real connection, and as they got more drinks in them an invisible rift seemed to form. I am grateful to her for the opportunity to go to the Mansion for the first time, and I hope she weathers this lawsuit and gets help for her alcoholism.
                                                      so you only saw her at industry related events (where she was drinking) so she must have an alcohol problem?

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                                                      • DWB
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                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 31779

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by Pleasurepays
                                                        i dont remember all the dirty details... but i remember enough to know that only a fucking moron would air this out in court and if her attorney has any brains, he will launch a full frontal attack with the facts, start deposing witnesses etc and it won't be pretty for NATS.
                                                        +1

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                                                        • Ozarkz
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Jan 2009
                                                          • 2377

                                                          #78
                                                          Originally posted by Justin
                                                          so you only saw her at industry related events (where she was drinking) so she must have an alcohol problem?
                                                          On that generalization i'd say the entire Adult industry has a drinking problem.

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                                                          • JenniDahling
                                                            Market Penetration Specialist
                                                            • Jul 2005
                                                            • 5285

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by Justin
                                                            so you only saw her at industry related events (where she was drinking) so she must have an alcohol problem?
                                                            When this someone is dying for a drink at 10am, I see a red flag. When someone trying to pass herself off as a legitimate business woman comes to industry events and gets so shitfaced she makes a scene, (so I left out a few details of the Cybernet party) holds up the bus from leaving coming AND going because of nonsensical rantings, and drinks as much she does before noon I'd say yes. When this woman tells me she needs a drink because she can't deal with bullshit, I have to wonder.

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                                                            • sarettah
                                                              see you later, I'm gone
                                                              • Oct 2002
                                                              • 14359

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by Dirty F
                                                              I get this really creepy bro feeling every time i see you post this shit.

                                                              Trust the force.
                                                              All cookies cleared!

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                                                              • MediaGuy
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Sep 2004
                                                                • 5500

                                                                #81
                                                                Originally posted by JenniDahling

                                                                I do however wonder if part of her actions were the direct result of drunk writing. I don't have any ill feelings for Shellee, but I do think she has a problem with alcohol. I also get the feeling that she's probably very lonely, even though she and her husband got along, I didn't see a real connection, and as they got more drinks in them an invisible rift seemed to form. I am grateful to her for the opportunity to go to the Mansion for the first time, and I hope she weathers this lawsuit and gets help for her alcoholism.
                                                                I think you're maybe half-correct; her posts were usually copy-pastes of old stories that weren't current which she drew some correlation from. Drunk copy-pasting?

                                                                I can't say anything about your comments concerning her potential problems with alcohol, though from your descriptions and my own problems in the past I can certainly sympathize.

                                                                But drunk or sober I agree with that feeling you got about her loneliness... and I think this whole i-have-money and i-am-a-microsoftie (her term) thing she has with meeting people points to a general, desperate need for acceptance or self-assurance she doesn't have within herself.

                                                                I think you're brave to post such impressionistic opinions about someone, and I wouldn't have without your doing so first, but in this case she just really seems like someone who could use some help on many levels. She has put herself out as such an expert on so many things it's kinda creepy, and her main tactic in any field seems to be to call alarm to the bad things and people out to do you harm and offer her "help" or "expertise" or whatever in defense.

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                                                                • baddog
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                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                  • 107089

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Two things I remember about her . . . cute daughter and a hot lawyer (or at least introduced to me as her atty).

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                                                                  • pocketkangaroo
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                                                                    • Jan 2005
                                                                    • 8452

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                    Two things I remember about her . . . cute daughter and a hot lawyer (or at least introduced to me as her atty).
                                                                    Pics?

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                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                      • 51069

                                                                      #84
                                                                      I remember her daughter. Pretty cute actually. She told me she was a rocket scientist.
                                                                      Last edited by 2MuchMark; 05-03-2009, 07:57 PM.

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                                                                      • baddog
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                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 107089

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                                                                        Pics?
                                                                        I am trying to remember which mansion party it was, because I am relatively confident that I did get pics of them. I will see if I can figure it out. I know I was wearing a red suit.

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                                                                        • MediaGuy
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                                                                          • Sep 2004
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                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                                          Two things I remember about her . . . cute daughter and a hot lawyer (or at least introduced to me as her atty).
                                                                          Wasn't there something else? I remember you actually shuddering when we were talking about her...

                                                                          :D

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                                                                          • baddog
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                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 107089

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by MediaGuy
                                                                            Wasn't there something else? I remember you actually shuddering when we were talking about her...

                                                                            :D
                                                                            You sure it was me? I remember walking away from the experience with the attitude that this was going to be a good connection. I know I told goodgirl about it the next day.

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                                                                            • Iron Fist
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                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                              • 23400

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Something tells me this thread is the one that did Dirty F in.... am I close?
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                                                                              • baddog
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2001
                                                                                • 107089

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by sharphead
                                                                                Something tells me this thread is the one that did Dirty F in.... am I close?
                                                                                Like any of us would know.

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                                                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                  • 51069

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                  I remember walking away from the experience with the attitude that this was going to be a good connection.
                                                                                  Same here. When I first met her, it was like "Wow. such a well connected person!". In the end she turned out to be quite a disapointment.

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