Has anyone gone up against Mueller, and won?

50 investigations

Let's say you're right... You very well may be... However:

What's the reason for all these people around trump proven and prosecuted for lying about dealing with Russia?

Why lie?

Simple question, sure to make Trumper-heads explode.

Because they are all doing shady business. Just like everyone around Washington D.C. does.

It's not gonna make my "head explode". I've been bitching about the career/lifetime bureaucrats and the money surrounding them for years.

If you recall...and the media uses their selective memory about this...Trump had his tight inner circle around him. It was THE MEDIA how pressured him to fire Cory Lendowski and hire Paul Manafort for instance.
And when he hired Manafort... same anchors and talking heads on CNN all PRAISED Manafort as being an "adult" and a guy who "knew his way around Washington".

They attacked Trump for having his loyal team and he caught the same bullshit from the Republican Party.

So he hired all these people he really didn't know. Flynn, Sessions, Manafort...those are Washington D.C. insiders who Trump didn't know personally until the campaign.
And there are more of these bureaucrats inside his administration to this day.

He should have stuck with his gut instincts and disregarded the advice of the media "experts". They wanted him to fail from day one.

So you know these guys are liars. Lied about dealing with Russia... But have the nerve to have the wtf face when they're investigated?

So now it was THE MEDIA that forced Trump to hire Manafort and the rest of them.

Goddamn now I've seen it all.

They could produce emails directly from Putin to Trump saying "we will gladly help you win the election" and Casper would argue that Trumps a great deal maker.

This is not true at all. I don't recall dozens of Obama campaign administration people getting indicted, arrested, and put in prison. Or Bush people.

The truth is Trump selects the worst possible people for the job, most of which are outright criminals.

You could not be more wrong here.

First, the media does not tell political candidates what to do or what not to do. They have advisers for that.

Second, Manafort is part of Trump's inner circle. Manafort has lived in Trump tower for over a decade now.

Third, don't tell us Trump was forced to go outside of his "inner circle". It's his inner circle that is dirty. Manafort, Cohen, and Roger Stone - all part of his inner circle and all dirty.

Fourth, of course Trump had to go outside of his inner circle. Trump's inner circle isn't large enough to pull off a political campaign, nor are they experience enough. Every campaign and every administration goes through this - they hire people they do not know because they do not know enough people to do the job. (Do you think Obama knew enough people in Kansas to run the political campaign there? Do you think Obama knew enough people at the EPA or Justice Department to hire from his "inner circle"? No, of course not.) Trump hires the WORST POSSIBLE people for the job. Need a Supreme Court Justice? LOL. Let's pick the LEAST POPULAR candidate EVER and ram him through.

Don't forget the last Republican POTUS before Trump was a Cheerleader and his daddy got him a safe spot in the Texas air national guard to avoid the draft, where he crashed 2 jets..

Yet Republicans love to lecture people about being patriots and how much they love the Military..

^^ The Bushes endorsed Hillary, dumbass. You guys don't seem to understand how the swamp works..


You guys don't seem to understand how the swamp works..

Whatever you say Bladelier.... I mean "Red Fred"

Yeah. OK Bladelier.

Any of y'all rightards going to answer my simple question? Or is that checkmate?

I'm so glad I have Rochard on "ignore". He is mindless with hate.

And you're right...As far as Obama people and Hillary people go...they were ALL given immunity even though they clearly broke the law.
AND...most of Pres. Obama's people in the DOJ and FBI have either been fired or left in disgrace.

And with the latest revelations from Andrew McCabe...it's about to get real for all of those shady bastards.

What Rochard doesn't understand is: NOBODY was getting indicted because they were all covering their own asses with immunity deals and/or simply IGNORING people lying under oath.

But with Trump? They have went after them balls to the wall over procedural crimes. Lying to the FBI??? Yeah...that's the same bullshit crime that Martha Stewart was thrown in jail for.

Great job FBI! And kudos to the FBI and DOJ in the 1960's for investigating and harrassing Martin Luther King Jr. (with a Democrat President of course) and in the 1970's with their "investigations" and harassment of John Lennon and The Rolling Stones too.

Keeping the country safe!

Notice how they make up a new lie as the story evolves? The new Manafort hired by the media lie only a complete moron would believe

"but mlk, but the 60s, etc"

Bro, the way y'all talk now, y'all woulda been down with all that shit back then.

Newsmax should be called Newsmin.