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  • aimike
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2017
    • 558
    #1

    walls coming

    The border wall. Trump apparently no longer expects funding from Congress for his proposed border wall, even though talks have two weeks left to run.

    He called the negotiations a "waste of time" and strongly hinted that he plans to build it without congressional support by declaring an emergency. "I've set the table," he said.

    "I've set the stage for doing what I'm going to do." He also said: "I’ll continue to build the wall and we’ll get the wall finished."



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    • Rochard
      Jägermeister Test Pilot
      • Dec 2001
      • 75733
      #2
      Great. Super. He can declare a national emergency and it will get tied up in court and suck up yet more time, more effort, more money, and in the long run will most likely be shot down. It's painfully obvious that there is no emergency and this will come out in court where the Trump administration will have to deal with facts and not the bullshit lies he spits out.

      Just today (yesterday?) it was announced they discoverer a tunnel over a section where there is no wall:
      60-foot tunnel found in Texas running under where border wall would go

      We have walls where walls are needed, fences where fences are needed, and vehicle barriers where vehicle barriers are required. Spending hundreds of billions of dollars to put up walls where walls are needed, where illegal drugs are not being carried over the border, and where illegals are not crossing the border is a massive waste of money.

      Trump can declare a national emergency and frankly, I hope he does. We now have troops at the border - we just sent three thousand more - and I would love to know what our troops are actually doing if this is a national emergency. Are they patrolling the border, arresting people crossing illegally, or are they cleaning up horse shit like last time? Why is this suddenly an emergency? Illegal immigration is on the decline, and has been for the past decade.

      And even if it is decided in court that there is a national emergency, spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a wall wouldn't be the proper response. The problem is at the ports of entry, not at areas where there is no wall, and if there is national emergency we would need to need to hire more Border Patrol agents or send in more troops... Not spend the next five years building a wall. If it is an emegency it needs to be handled NOW, not years of building walls.

      This entire administration is a joke.
      Herschel Savage
      Brooklyn, NY

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        • 2MuchMark
          Mark of 2Much.net
          • Aug 2004
          • 50991
          #3
          The wall is a diversion. Ignore it, and dig deeper.

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            • baddog
              So Fucking Banned
              • Apr 2001
              • 107089
              #4
              Originally posted by Rochard
              We have walls where walls are needed, fences where fences are needed, and vehicle barriers where vehicle barriers are required.
              You are a joke




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                • seeandsee
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                  • Mar 2006
                  • 50945
                  #5
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                    • blackmonsters
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 20985
                      #6
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                        • tony286
                          lurker
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 57021
                          #7
                          That's great then when another mass shootout happens and the dem president calls a state of emergency and starts collecting guns or the same for healthcare. You can thank Trump for creating a precedent.

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                            • Rochard
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                              • Dec 2001
                              • 75733
                              #8
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              You are a joke




                              Provide us details. Where exactly are those locations, and how many people cross there every year? Should we invest in forty million dollars to stop two people from entering the country there?
                              Herschel Savage
                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                • bronco67
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Dec 2006
                                  • 29032
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by aimike

                                  "I've set the stage for doing what I'm going to do." He also said: "I’ll continue to build the wall and we’ll get the wall finished."


                                  Before the 20 year project even gets started, Trump will be out of office and it will be scrapped. That's assuming he even gets to the starting stage. No one wants this medieval wall from a medieval mind. It will not happen. Get that through your stupid fucking head. There will be no Trump wall. Never.

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                                    • Acepimp
                                      All Facts Matter
                                      • Jan 2012
                                      • 20319
                                      #10
                                      You anti-border security people are delusional. It's like saying you're in favor of rampant drug cartels, gangs, and child sex traffickers. I am against people like that. How 'bout you guys??



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                                        • RedFred
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                                          • Feb 2016
                                          • 9782
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Acepimp
                                          You anti-border security people are delusional. It's like saying you're in favor of rampant drug cartels, gangs, and child sex traffickers. I am against people like that. How 'bout you guys??

                                          I'm against Russians pretending to be Americans.

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                                            • CaptainHowdy
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 94744
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                              The wall is a diversion. Ignore it, and dig deeper.
                                              Thank you . . .

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                                                • Acepimp
                                                  All Facts Matter
                                                  • Jan 2012
                                                  • 20319
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by RedFred
                                                  I'm against Russians pretending to be Americans.
                                                  You mean like these anti-Trump morons?



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                                                    • TheSquealer
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                                                      • Oct 2004
                                                      • 26181
                                                      #14
                                                      haha.

                                                      .
                                                      Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                                                      Rochard

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                                                        • 2MuchMark
                                                          Mark of 2Much.net
                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                          • 50991
                                                          #15
                                                          Fantasy:
                                                          Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                          Reality:

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                                                            • aimike
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Apr 2017
                                                              • 558
                                                              #16
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                                                                • Acepimp
                                                                  All Facts Matter
                                                                  • Jan 2012
                                                                  • 20319
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by 2MuchMark
                                                                  Reality:
                                                                  That's hilarious! But not accurate


                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                  haha.
                                                                  That graphic is funny, but it's a poor wall design. I'm hoping they go with something like this:

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                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                      • 20985
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by 2MuchMark
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                                                                        • Rochard
                                                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                          • 75733
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                                          You anti-border security people are delusional. It's like saying you're in favor of rampant drug cartels, gangs, and child sex traffickers. I am against people like that. How 'bout you guys??
                                                                          No one is against border security. However, that doesn't mean we need throw money away in the name of border security which is exactly what Republicans want us to do.

                                                                          If we need to build a wall some place, then by all means build a wall. But if we can accomplish the same goal by building a fence for a fraction of the price, then we should build a fence. But by no means are we going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a wall from sea to sea when it's clearly not needed.
                                                                          Herschel Savage
                                                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                            • EddyTheDog
                                                                              Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                                              • Jan 2011
                                                                              • 25433
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Acepimp
                                                                              That's hilarious! But not accurate




                                                                              That graphic is funny, but it's a poor wall design. I'm hoping they go with something like this:

                                                                              You only want skinny immigrants?..

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                                                                                • Acepimp
                                                                                  All Facts Matter
                                                                                  • Jan 2012
                                                                                  • 20319
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                  No one is against border security. However, that doesn't mean we need throw money away in the name of border security which is exactly what Republicans want us to do.

                                                                                  If we need to build a wall some place, then by all means build a wall. But if we can accomplish the same goal by building a fence for a fraction of the price, then we should build a fence. But by no means are we going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a wall from sea to sea when it's clearly not needed.


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                                                                                    • baddog
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                      • 107089
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                      Provide us details. Where exactly are those locations, and how many people cross there every year? Should we invest in forty million dollars to stop two people from entering the country there?
                                                                                      https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall...ve-border-map/

                                                                                      You honestly think these are the only two places along the border like this?

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                                                                                        • baddog
                                                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                                                          • 107089
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                          No one is against border security. However, that doesn't mean we need throw money away in the name of border security which is exactly what Republicans want us to do.

                                                                                          If we need to build a wall some place, then by all means build a wall. But if we can accomplish the same goal by building a fence for a fraction of the price, then we should build a fence. But by no means are we going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on a wall from sea to sea when it's clearly not needed.
                                                                                          $6 billion, not sea to sea

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                                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                              https://www.usatoday.com/border-wall...ve-border-map/

                                                                                              You honestly think these are the only two places along the border like this?
                                                                                              There is no doubt in my mind that there is some areas with no wall, fence, or barrier. However, these are areas were it is not cost effective to put up such barriers. If no one crosses in a certain area, there is no reason to spend tens of millions of dollars or whatever to put up a wall.
                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                • Rochard
                                                                                                  Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                                  • 75733
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                  $6 billion, not sea to sea
                                                                                                  Trump is saying we are going to build a wall. He tells us it's going to be a great wall. He didn't say he was going to build a wall in "some areas". The impression he is giving everyone is that he is going to build a great wall. It's going to be from West side of California to the East side of Texas. So.... From the Pacific Ocean to the Gulf Of Mexico. Sea to sea.

                                                                                                  Here is an article by Fox News that pegs the cost at $25 billion. It could cost anywhere from $150 million to $750 million a year for maintenance.

                                                                                                  All of this would do nothing to address the problem. The problem is the ports of entry. Illegal immigrants come into the country legally, then don't go home. The drugs are being smuggled in through the ports of entry, such as the huge bust just the other day.

                                                                                                  There is so many better places we can spend billions of dollars.
                                                                                                  Herschel Savage
                                                                                                  Brooklyn, NY

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                                                                                                    • Paul Markham
                                                                                                      Too old to care
                                                                                                      • Jun 2001
                                                                                                      • 52942
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      The present border is not doing it's job. Otherwise you wouldn't need more border guards.







                                                                                                      When more people can't be recruited, it makes sense to assist the remaining people with better physical and electronic surveillance.



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                                                                                                        • TampaToker
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • May 2006
                                                                                                          • 5828
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Please build a wall between Nevada and California. The criminals and 2 time strike offenders from California have turned northeast vegas into a a war zone
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                                                                                                            • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                              • 22083
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                              Great. Super. He can declare a national emergency and it will get tied up in court and suck up yet more time, more effort, more money, and in the long run will most likely be shot down.
                                                                                                              Name a single time that a declared emergency was challenged in court.

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                                                                                                                • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                  • 22083
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                  Please build a wall between Nevada and California. The criminals and 2 time strike offenders from California have turned northeast vegas into a a war zone
                                                                                                                  Well that's what you get. Eastside!

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                                                                                                                    • blackmonsters
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                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                      • 20985
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TampaToker
                                                                                                                      Please build a wall between Nevada and California. The criminals and 2 time strike offenders from California have turned northeast vegas into a a war zone
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                                                                                                                        • femdomdestiny
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                                                                                                                          • Apr 2007
                                                                                                                          • 5185
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          What's wrong with mine fields? Why do you need walls?
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                                                                                                                            • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 22083
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                                                                                                                              What's wrong with mine fields? Why do you need walls?
                                                                                                                              The wonderful thing about land mines is that you don't even actually need them. You just need a sign saying that there are land mines.

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