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01-31-2019, 02:12 AM

Who runs DMCA Defender?

Do they bother sending a DMCA to a site before bombarding Google with takedown requests?

It appears to me they are targeting some cam affiliate sites without a full understanding of what affiliate content is.

If I am wrong I'd like to be corrected.
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01-31-2019, 06:08 AM

From what I've seen, DMCA companies tend to carpet bomb everything and its up to you (the site operator) to defend yourself.

I think some of them work on a volume basis, so its in their interest to take down as much as they can even if its licensed affiliate material.

My experience has been to contact the site owner and let them know their DMCA agency is taking down my promo stuff. Its then up to them to have it corrected. It usually works out ok doing it this way.

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01-31-2019, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by NoWhErE

My experience has been to contact the site owner and let them know their DMCA agency is taking down my promo stuff. Its then up to them to have it corrected. It usually works out ok doing it this way.

I have had an anti piracy stance that has been well documented. However I am becoming tired of this carpet bombing approach. It places a ridiculous amount of workload on the recipient of a poorly thought out anti-piracy methodology.

Cam companies should forbid their models from taking DMCA into their own hands. Program owners should not use companies that carpet bomb everything. It's worth pointing out that one of the worst offenders for doing this shit (although not in this case) is MindGeek.
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01-31-2019, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by AdultKing

I have had an anti piracy stance that has been well documented. However I am becoming tired of this carpet bombing approach. It places a ridiculous amount of workload on the recipient of a poorly thought out anti-piracy methodology.

Cam companies should forbid their models from taking DMCA into their own hands. Program owners should not use companies that carpet bomb everything. It's worth pointing out that one of the worst offenders for doing this shit (although not in this case) is MindGeek.

MindGeek? Any trouble with them? I am promoting Brazzers, RK etc...
but so far, I never got any issue with their DMCA agency

About cams, sometimes a model request to take down their profile...
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01-31-2019, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Holy Damage

MindGeek? Any trouble with them? I am promoting Brazzers, RK etc...
but so far, I never got any issue with their DMCA agency

About cams, sometimes a model request to take down their profile...

I've never had an issue with MindGeek but I do know a couple of people who have.

If you look on the Google transparency report you'll see they issue a lot of DMCA notices and not all of them look well targeted.
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01-31-2019, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Cam companies should forbid their models from taking DMCA into their own hands.

Yeah, after they offer each model a contract with a guaranteed salary.

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01-31-2019, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by AdultKing

It places a ridiculous amount of workload on the recipient of a poorly thought out anti-piracy methodology.

I agree. It does. Thats the result of an easily abused DMCA system. On the other hand, if it wasn't that easy, piracy would be much more prelavent. Surely a balance can be found, but right now, the odds are in favor of those submitting DMCAs.

Originally posted by AdultKing

It's worth pointing out that one of the worst offenders for doing this shit (although not in this case) is MindGeek.

Ironic isn't it?

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01-31-2019, 10:02 AM

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01-31-2019, 11:47 AM

A model once contacted me to take down a picture of her that I was fetching from the cb api...They need to tell the cam companies to exclude them from their aff program if they don't want their pics on other sites.

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02-01-2019, 08:02 AM

Worked in the last war, should work here !! If you are not a pirate you will not be touched..

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02-02-2019, 04:18 AM

We recently had an affiliate program decide the easiest way to tell affiliates not to use their rss feeds which they had live in NATS was to dmca the site, the host, Google. Total fucking idiots.
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02-02-2019, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by JuicyBunny

We recently had an affiliate program decide the easiest way to tell affiliates not to use their rss feeds which they had live in NATS was to dmca the site, the host, Google. Total fucking idiots.

Do you still promote them?

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02-02-2019, 05:50 AM

Originally posted by JuicyBunny

We recently had an affiliate program decide the easiest way to tell affiliates not to use their rss feeds which they had live in NATS was to dmca the site, the host, Google. Total fucking idiots.

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02-02-2019, 08:27 AM

We're not sure what to do. I know what I want to do but we have links up on lots of sites they just paid us but they still owe us...
A Japanese porn program. The sell old JAV and you can make bucks with them.

Real bullshit move on their part. When I spoke to affiliate rep it took me 10 minutes to make it clear to her we had only links to their site and we had none of their videos on our server. Just links.

They've hurt a few sites for sure. Though we dumped all their links except banners and replaced with another program who is getting the benefit of their fuck up.
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02-02-2019, 02:30 PM

Originally posted by JuicyBunny

We recently had an affiliate program decide the easiest way to tell affiliates not to use their rss feeds which they had live in NATS was to dmca the site, the host, Google. Total fucking idiots.

Who? Need add these mf in my blacklist
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02-03-2019, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by AdultKing

Who runs DMCA Defender?

Do they bother sending a DMCA to a site before bombarding Google with takedown requests?

It appears to me they are targeting some cam affiliate sites without a full understanding of what affiliate content is.

If I am wrong I'd like to be corrected.

Probably fake... the pirate sites send fake notices all the time.
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02-04-2019, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by RycEric

Probably fake... the pirate sites send fake notices all the time.

What is the motivation for pirate sites to send fake DMCA notices?

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02-04-2019, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by AmeliaG

What is the motivation for pirate sites to send fake DMCA notices?

Kick legit out so your illegal site has better rank/reach. I'd mention it's illegal but I don't think they care.
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02-04-2019, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by RycEric

Kick legit out so your illegal site has better rank/reach. I'd mention it's illegal but I don't think they care.

You're absolutely right, they're pirates, pirates don't care.
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02-04-2019, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by RycEric

Kick legit out so your illegal site has better rank/reach. I'd mention it's illegal but I don't think they care.

Yup, rogue dirty competition at work. This happened to me some years ago.
Someone reported my site to bunch of blacklist sites for various reasons, illegal content, viruses and what not. It affected my serps with google... (site was doing ok for years, and then it all went down to 0 in 2-3months) they were killed basically. This made me to strongly rethink the online business model in general. If your traffic depends over 50% on Google, you can get fucked easily. No matter if you are 100% legit, your niche is whatever... even pictures of cute puppies.... you can get fucked badly by your dirty douchebag competitors.
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