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So Fucking Banned
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Originally Posted by Dead Eye
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If you ever wonder why snopes is so full of shit, it's because they rely on people not reading the whole article. They put up that "mostly false" icon and people think 'oh it's bullshit' and click off.
The article centers around this meme:
If you read that article they go though each point and basically admit it's mostly all true.
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A job
Adults who enter the United States illegally are not provided with a job. In fact, it’s illegal to knowingly hire any immigrant who isn’t authorized to work in the country (whether they entered the United States illegally or overstayed a visa after entering legally.)
Of course, that doesn’t stop the practice from happening, and according to a 2017 analysis by the Pew Research Institute, there were around 8 million unauthorized immigrants working or looking for work in the United States in 2014.
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So yeah, if you're an illegal you can work and get a job. So that's true.
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A driver’s license
This depends on where you live. As of January 2018, there are 12 states (and the District of Columbia) which allow immigrants without legal status to obtain a driver’s license. Some of the states where unauthorized immigrants can drive (California, New Jersey, Illinois) have relatively high undocumented populations.
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So yeah, if you're an illegal you can, in 12 states, get a driver's license. So that's true.
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Food Stamps
An immigrant who does not have a legal status in the United States is not eligible for food stamps (the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program), although their children might be. Indeed, undocumented immigrants do not receive most kinds of welfare benefits, even though they do pay taxes.
According to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, a non-partisan think tank, undocumented immigrants collectively contribute almost $12 billion per year in state and local sales, income and property taxes.
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So if you're an illegal and have kids, yes you can get them. So that one is a little wishywashy but if you have an anchor baby you can get them.
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“A place to live”
Generally speaking, undocumented immigrants are not eligible for federal housing benefits like public housing, rental assistance, and vouchers.
However, as a 2015 Congressional Research Service report outlines, some undocumented immigrants may live in a household with citizens or qualified immigrants, and thereby indirectly benefit from some public housing assistance (although the level of that assistance is reduced on a pro rata basis, due to the presence of that undocumented immigrant.)
Undocumented immigrants are eligible for emergency assistance such as homeless accomodation and domestic violence shelters.
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Illegals come here and pop out a kid and they get housing vouchers / section8. So that's true. Technically illegals don't, but they do via proxy though their anchor babies.
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Health care
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible to enroll in Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) Health Insurance Marketplace, significantly curtailing the affordable health insurance and health care available to them.
However, six states and the District of Columbia have rules that allow undocumented immigrant children to avail themselves of Medicaid benefits, and undocumented immigrants are also entitled to emergency medical care.
According to a 2017 Kaiser Family Foundation analysis, non-elderly undocumented immigrants are four times more likely than United States citizens to be uninsured, and fears about immigration enforcement and detection often cause undocumented immigrants to forgo preventive healthcare, leading to worse outcomes.
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They all get cared for. They walk in and don't pay. They get free health care. So this is true.
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Child benefits
It’s not entirely clear what the creator of this meme means by “child benefits,” but let’s take a look. Undocumented immigrant tax-payers (using an ITIN rather than a social security number) can avail themselves of a child tax credit.
Low-income undocumented immigrants are also eligible for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), which provides food and infant formula assistance, as well as nutritional and immunization assessments.
Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families), a federal program that provides financial help to low-income families and pregnant women.
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They admit right there "Low-income undocumented immigrants are also eligible for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC)" so that is true.
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Education
In 1982, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states are constitutionally barred from denying children a public school education on the basis of their immigration status. As a result, undocumented immigrant children can attend public schools for free, like any other children.
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100% true. Free education.
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A tax-free business for seven years
This is completely false. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, and there is no provision in law at the federal or state level which grants them any kind of “tax holiday.”
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Now this is total bullshit. I have no idea where they got that but out of all the statemetns this is the only one that is false.
So 7 out of the 8 statements you could say are mostly true. One being totally false. So how the fuck do they slap on a mostly false on this? Total bullshit. |