I smell a long thread here.
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for the record to those who might think the usa never gave indians land
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p.s. the pink stuff is indian landhatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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technically word for word this is what you said incase you forgot
so i pointed out they have given them lots , and if you meant they arent NOW , then i have news for you.
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/30/ny...and-claim.html
In New York, three major indian claims, in addition to the Oneida suit, are in various stages of resolution:
- In St. Lawrence and Franklin Counties, in the northern part of the state, a compromise has been tentatively reached, giving the St. Regis Mohawks 9,750 acres of state reforestation land and a $7.5 million Federal grant for a tribal trust fund. The proposal has yet to be approved by a tribal referendum and by Congressional action.
- In Cayuga and Seneca Counties, the Cayuga claim for 64,000 acres was apparently settled by an award of 3,700 acres of state land and 1,800 acres of Federal land and an $8 million trust fund, but it was defeated in the House of Representatives.
- One branch of the Oneida Indians has won a Federal Court decision establishing its title to county-owned land on 240,000 acres in Madison and Oneida Counties.
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so you can choose which one you were wrong about
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This was the question that was asked of me, son...
And that was how I answered it. I said the Native Americans assimilated for the most part, they were given land to live on, but they weren't give their land back. If you are trying to make the argument that what land they were given to live on is being given their land back, then I can't help you, because you aren't smart enough to comprehend what you read...
technically word for word this is what you said incase you forgot
so i pointed out they have given them lots , and if you meant they arent NOW , then i have news for you.
http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/30/ny...and-claim.html
In New York, three major indian claims, in addition to the Oneida suit, are in various stages of resolution:
- In St. Lawrence and Franklin Counties, in the northern part of the state, a compromise has been tentatively reached, giving the St. Regis Mohawks 9,750 acres of state reforestation land and a $7.5 million Federal grant for a tribal trust fund. The proposal has yet to be approved by a tribal referendum and by Congressional action.
- In Cayuga and Seneca Counties, the Cayuga claim for 64,000 acres was apparently settled by an award of 3,700 acres of state land and 1,800 acres of Federal land and an $8 million trust fund, but it was defeated in the House of Representatives.
- One branch of the Oneida Indians has won a Federal Court decision establishing its title to county-owned land on 240,000 acres in Madison and Oneida Counties.
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The source I used was the Israeli Defense Force's website (which can be found here). What was yours? Rrriggghhtt.
In times of peace, Israel strikes Palestinians first and breaks cease fires over 85% of the time, and when the cease fire lasts longer than a week breaks the cease fire over 90% of the time. So say what you want to say but facts don't lie, it's obvious that Palestinians are defending themselves against Israeli attacks whereas Israelis are the ones instigating the attacks. (Source)Comment
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thats a totally different person dude.. i quoted YOUR words.
this is what YOU said to ME
i just pointed out you were wrong , don't get all huffy about it
p.s. if i am your son you must be shittting your pants by now , go change them old man
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these threads always end in the same way..oh well , i'm going fishing.
wish me luck.hatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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It is quite sad that every time some Jihadist commits some new and horrific atrocity the same group of usual useful idiots have to come and chant in unison that "the Joooos deserved it" and that anyway "Christians did much worse in 1200 AD." Why is it so hard for certain people to condemn what is obviously a horrific act without offering up a bunch of equivocations? What is it about leftists that makes them admire mass murderers and genocidal fanatics with such fervor?
From Lenin to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot to Jihadist Islam the radical left seems never seems to have encountered a totalitarian genocidal ideology that they could not embrace.
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Nobody deserves to be tortured, regardless of their religion. That's the whole point of the argument, it's that these people aren't evil because their Muslims but rather evil because of their own beliefs. When you start taking the beliefs of a small group and saying that everyone from the same religion or race as that group is just as bad you're being racist. And that's what this argument is about - that Muslims in general aren't evil but there just happens to be some evil Muslims. Just the same as there is evil Christians, Jews, Catholics and Hindus.It is quite sad that every time some Jihadist commits some new and horrific atrocity the same group of usual useful idiots have to come and chant in unison that "the Joooos deserved it" and that anyway "Christians did much worse in 1200 AD." Why is it so hard for certain people to condemn what is obviously a horrific act without offering up a bunch of equivocations? What is it about leftists that makes them admire mass murderers and genocidal fanatics with such fervor?
From Lenin to Stalin to Mao to Pol Pot to Jihadist Islam the radical left seems never seems to have encountered a totalitarian genocidal ideology that they could not embrace.
So if you're against people fighting against racism and you think that's sad then whatever. I think racism is stupid and ignorant especially coming from people who have been educated against it virtually every day of their lives.
It's even sadder when an entire religious nation spits in the face of international laws, murders innocent women and children without cause, uses illegal chemical warfare, illegally produces nuclear weapons, refuses to sign an international nuclear non-proliferation treaty that only Pakistan, Israel and India have refused to sign then has people with the nerve to come around and defend it. Shame on you.Comment
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Islam is not a race, it is an ideology, but I agree that you cannot condemn individuals for the actions of others just because they share the same race, religion, culture etc.
So every set of people deserves to be judged as unique individuals except for the Jews who are uniquely and collectively guilty? The mental gymnastics that are required for someone like you to hold so many opposing viewpoints must give you a headache.
The truth is you support the Jihadists because they kill Jews. You will try and twist your logic into a pretzel to explain why this makes sense and why any opposition to Jihadism is "racism" but you are only fooling yourself and the others who feel the need to justify their hatreds using the language of multiculturalism. Embrace your racist ideology and stop obfuscating the issue. You will be much happier and your head will stop hurting.
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I don't support Jihadists and I don't support killing Jews. That's the truth, coming from me, ignore it if you'd like but that's it.Islam is not a race, it is an ideology, but I agree that you cannot condemn individuals for the actions of others just because they share the same race, religion, culture etc.
So every set of people deserves to be judged as unique individuals except for the Jews who are uniquely and collectively guilty? The mental gymnastics that are required for someone like you to hold so many opposing viewpoints must give you a headache.
The truth is you support the Jihadists because they kill Jews. You will try and twist your logic into a pretzel to explain why this makes sense and why any opposition to Jihadism is "racism" but you are only fooling yourself and the others who feel the need to justify their hatreds using the language of multiculturalism. Embrace your racist ideology and stop obfuscating the issue. You will be much happier and your head will stop hurting.
I never said any opposition to Jihadism is racism, YOU said that. In your struggle to pretend not to be racist, you confused me saying that Muslims aren't all evil with Jihadists aren't all evil. Therefore proving my point exactly and referring to all Muslims as Jihadists. Way to go.
Everyone is judged as a unique individual, unless it's not a unique individual but a nation that is admittedly a Jewish nation. When France attacks a country it's okay to say that the French are attacking. When a French man attacks a country you say that a French man is attacking. So when the nation of the Jewish people (in their own words) attacks then it's fair to say that the Jews are attacking. Is that clearer to you?Last edited by moeloubani; 04-30-2009, 05:26 PM.Comment
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And for the record I'm not a Muslim and I'm not a Jew, I'm an Athiest - no religion. I think it's silly that people choose to believe in fantasy tales about divine beings talking to them and instructing them on how to do things.Comment
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you are right they are ending up with you and your arab friends spouting out anti-semitic bullshit they disputing it with real facts will take a little time to respond to....
population of israel = around 7 million, out of that 7 million 1.5 are muslims....where do you think they live?they have no land? if you count percentage they have a lot more land then the native americans....Last edited by Oracle Porn; 04-30-2009, 07:33 PM.
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They do, it's just not generally newsworthy, the moderate majority hates this kind of thing because it makes them all look like retarded stone age monkeys. Much more drama quoting some insane fundamentalist's rant than the boring 90%. It's kinda like how we know more about Westboro's "God Hates Fags" statements, or Falwell/Robertsons "Hurricane Katrina is God's Punishment to New Orleans" than we do about the boring whitebread shit that goes on in most churches most of the time.Comment
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How can you stand up for Israel when it's a FACT that they break 85%+ of cease fires with Palestine, when it's a FACT that they are the instigator and start fights over 90% of the time when the peace lasts for a week or longer? As an Israeli spitting in the face of international law you're twice as likely to be killed by a terrorist attack than the average person in the world but as a Palestinian that elected their leaders democratically you're almost 3000 times more likely to die of an Israeli terrorist attack. You wanted some 'real facts'? There they are, now you tell me what gives Israel the right to do all of that? Isn't it obvious that Palestinians are protecting themselves from Israelis? Or are Israelis protecting themselves from Palestinians by killing them all (ie a second Holocaust).
Sure Palestinians live in Israel, but that doesn't mean Israel doesn't terrorize them on a daily basis and has been doing so for over 60 years. As soon as someone says something about that there is always someone like you who screams 'anti-semites'!
Is it not ok to fight for the rights of humans in the world? Or is that anti-semitic? Is it not right to insist that all countries operate according to international law? What about speaking out against governments that use chemical weapons illegally? People aren't speaking out against Jews, people are speaking out against Israel.
The only racism I see in this thread is people saying all Muslims are terrorists. Speaking out against Israel ISN'T anti-semitic when you're speaking out against the actions of Israel.Comment
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lol you got me i am an arab , we are all arabs. The fact is you make up anti-semetic bullshit because you WANT to find it in everything you dont agree with because it makes you feel better about being wrong.
in an unequal portion ?
who has no land ?
unless of course you were awake during math class, then its the complete oppositehatisblack at yahoo.comComment
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It's unfortunate to see that some people love violence so much.Send me an email: [email protected]Comment
no point in arguing with you its like talking to a brick wall.
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