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paul you are also lack in history.Was America very helpful in the war and afterwards? Yes.
The problem with Germans is they're blinded by blind faith that they should rule Europe. Twice Europe has been forced to go to war because Germans invaded other countries in an effort to rule Europe.
Now can we get back to the question the OP posed. American troops in the ME. Are they a permanent feature or do you some day see the ME not being at war with itself.
the first WW was not started by germany.
the second ww was a direct answer to the contracts of versaille - and this is why the germans fought it.
I don“t know if you ever got teached the truth but obviously not and this might be the reason why you are so blind.Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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if the japanese did not bomb pearl harbour hitler would not declare war to the USA.The problem is the United States usually gets dragged into it sooner or later.... We tried to stay out of WWII but eventually got dragged in. United States policy back then was to stay out if at all possible.
Imagine if the United States had stepped in way back in 1938 when went after Austria... Tens of millions of lives might have been saved.
in fact he liked the US with all it“s racism and 2 class people.
but however - I am glad that he did not win but feel sad that all his bullshit comes up now again in the world.
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This map is completely misleading.
First, it's about military intervention AND CIA operations. Being as the CIA has operated at some level in nearly every country..... Second.... This maps makes it look like we have been to war with nearly every country. Odd, I don't remember the US attacking Australia.
At the same time look at China.... Do you know how many countries China has attacked since China has been China?
Then again look at Russia.... Russia has been involved in Vietnam, Korea, all of the countries in Europe behind the Iron Curtain, Afghanistan.....
I am not trying to defend US policy, but instead trying to explain it. We had a policy of staying out, and eventually we get sucked in. When we get sucked in "later on" after trying to ignore the problem, the problem is much worse. Again, look at WWII. Imagine if the US had stood up to Germany in 1938 and attacked then - we could have saved tens of millions of lives.Herschel Savage
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Oh so the CIA stuff does not count?...look this whole argument of why the USA is doing the world a favor by bombing it can not be resolved without the bombed parties having the "off" switch to life on earth...then one can explain to invaders that we will never ever give a shit what makes you bomb us and that it is hilarious that you even try to explain...it will be amazing at how fast invaders will gain clarity on this once the ones they bombed nations nuke up...until then invaders will parrot silly propaganda...This map is completely misleading.
First, it's about military intervention AND CIA operations. Being as the CIA has operated at some level in nearly every country..... Second.... This maps makes it look like we have been to war with nearly every country. Odd, I don't remember the US attacking Australia.
At the same time look at China.... Do you know how many countries China has attacked since China has been China?
Then again look at Russia.... Russia has been involved in Vietnam, Korea, all of the countries in Europe behind the Iron Curtain, Afghanistan.....
I am not trying to defend US policy, but instead trying to explain it. We had a policy of staying out, and eventually we get sucked in. When we get sucked in "later on" after trying to ignore the problem, the problem is much worse. Again, look at WWII. Imagine if the US had stood up to Germany in 1938 and attacked then - we could have saved tens of millions of lives.
The USAinjects itself in every fucking conflict because war is your #1 employer and your #1 export...you can not afford peace and deep down you all know it...the USA will bomb as long as it can and you all know this...
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As I have always said....
There can be no peace in the ME until those that have a vested interest in peace also are the ones fully vested in the war.
I stand by that today. You have to want peace. How much do I want it if it's always being fought by proxy.Comment
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So has every other region of the world...especially white regions...
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The Dutch supported ISIS with Toyota Jeeps so they could kill more civilians.
It will take some years and than the (new) government will fall cause of it.
All the troops should never have entered Syria.
Assad is an asshole that killed some of his own people, but the solution was that foreign troops killed even much more people and ruined a country and a future.
And now the foreigners will bring peace? If they wanted something they had to kill Asad and the country would split in several parts. Just like now. If the foreign troops hadn't attacked Asad, he could have get rid of ISIS himself.
With the dumb leaders we have, every solution will end bad for Syria. I understand that the USA doesn't want to be the policeman. T#Why should they? But it is only a matter of time before the EU fools decide to sent troops. Too bad for the Syrian people. There is no plan.
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yup they are a bunch of drug dealing, arms supplying, assassination planning, war mongering terrorists...I see no difference between them and common criminals...
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So Pearl Harbour never happened.The problem is the United States usually gets dragged into it sooner or later.... We tried to stay out of WWII but eventually got dragged in. United States policy back then was to stay out if at all possible.
Imagine if the United States had stepped in way back in 1938 when went after Austria... Tens of millions of lives might have been saved.
I sometimes wonder about how History is taught in American schools.Comment
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So all those troops on the Eastern side of the trenches weren't German. Don't spin your bullshit here. The Treaty of Versailles was an attempt to get Germans to repay the costs of waging WW1. Or do you think that should of been ignored?paul you are also lack in history.
the first WW was not started by germany.
the second ww was a direct answer to the contracts of versaille - and this is why the germans fought it.
I don“t know if you ever got teached the truth but obviously not and this might be the reason why you are so blind.
WW2 was a direction of Hitler and his invasion of Poland. The world had allowed him Czechoslovakia and annexing Austria. But Poland was a step too far.
He built up huge debts, for the time, rebuilding and arming Germany that had to be paid. Hitler and Stalin sliced Poland down the middle. Would Hitler had stopped with Poland, would he not have murdered 6 million Jews and all the other ethnic groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims all done with the knowledge of the German people who just ignored it.
And what has the world done afterwards? Poured money into Germany so it could rebuild the damage it brought upon itself and said to Germans "It was the Nazis who did all this so don't feel guilty." As if Nazis weren't Germans.Comment
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You ass. I've visited Pearl Harbor. LOL.
I never said that at all. I am saying if the United States had stepped in and confronted Germany before Pearl Harbor it's entirely possible that Germany would have never attacked Poland, France, and then Russia and it's also entirely possible Japan would never have attacked Pearl Harbor. (On the other hand, if the US had confronted Germany in 1938 it's entirely possible Japan would have been even more encouraged to attack the United States.)
What I am saying is this.... The United States, as one of the world's most powerful military forces in the world, can either do nothing and watch events unfold and hope they don't get dragged in OR they can try to prevent from smaller regional issues become much larger. US policy prior to WWII was do nothing and hope we didn't get pulled in. Sometime after WWII / Korea, US policy became to take action to prevent larger conflict.
I am not saying US policy is always right. Sometimes it drags us into things we do not need to be in. Some times it becomes all out war. However, an all out proxy war is much better than a world war.Herschel Savage
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if you see this conflict on a what would be when-view you could also say that if there would have been someone that would see that is is not a good idea to let germany pay for the first ww (what they did NOT start), take them the land away and let the coal workers freeze in winter because the german coal flows to the repair countries - then there probably wouldn't have even been a hitler.You ass. I've visited Pearl Harbor. LOL.
I never said that at all. I am saying if the United States had stepped in and confronted Germany before Pearl Harbor it's entirely possible that Germany would have never attacked Poland, France, and then Russia and it's also entirely possible Japan would never have attacked Pearl Harbor. (On the other hand, if the US had confronted Germany in 1938 it's entirely possible Japan would have been even more encouraged to attack the United States.)
What I am saying is this.... The United States, as one of the world's most powerful military forces in the world, can either do nothing and watch events unfold and hope they don't get dragged in OR they can try to prevent from smaller regional issues become much larger. US policy prior to WWII was do nothing and hope we didn't get pulled in. Sometime after WWII / Korea, US policy became to take action to prevent larger conflict.
I am not saying US policy is always right. Sometimes it drags us into things we do not need to be in. Some times it becomes all out war. However, an all out proxy war is much better than a world war.Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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Who the fuck cares who started it. Germany was the main opposition in WW1.if you see this conflict on a what would be when-view you could also say that if there would have been someone that would see that is is not a good idea to let germany pay for the first ww (what they did NOT start), take them the land away and let the coal workers freeze in winter because the german coal flows to the repair countries - then there probably wouldn't have even been a hitler.
As for saying the freezing coal miners were the reason. Bullshit. The reason was Hitler and Germany built a huge military force, built roads to move troops on, persecuted anyone it didn't consider Aryan. And a lot more things that any civilised nation wouldn't have done.
So you want Germany to be allowed to create world wars and then get lots of money afterwards.
Do you want paying for killing millions in concentration camps as well?Comment
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educate yourself before you write BS.
i really wait for something where you have education and knowledge.
if you would ever been to school or researched a bit about the complexity of such issues you would admit already that it is too complicated for you and shut up.
every 10 years old boy have more education and history knowledge as you old fart.Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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do you want germany pays the brits roayalties for the concentration camps?
you had them LONG before us and the USA too.
don“t put a finger on me - i never killed a jew and if you want to count how many million people all over the world where killed by the so called british empire - let“s make a balance you idiot !!!
no country have more blood on it“s history than the brits. so shut up you clown !Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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If the GB and the rest of the world had got it's act together and told Germany to not spend millions re-arming to the level it had. If Hitler had been condemned instead of praised by Germans for oppressing Germans who didn't fit his Aryan model. If France, GB, US hadn't done all it could to avoid war and settled for policies of peace. Hitler wouldn't have started WW2.You ass. I've visited Pearl Harbor. LOL.
I never said that at all. I am saying if the United States had stepped in and confronted Germany before Pearl Harbor it's entirely possible that Germany would have never attacked Poland, France, and then Russia and it's also entirely possible Japan would never have attacked Pearl Harbor. (On the other hand, if the US had confronted Germany in 1938 it's entirely possible Japan would have been even more encouraged to attack the United States.)
What I am saying is this.... The United States, as one of the world's most powerful military forces in the world, can either do nothing and watch events unfold and hope they don't get dragged in OR they can try to prevent from smaller regional issues become much larger. US policy prior to WWII was do nothing and hope we didn't get pulled in. Sometime after WWII / Korea, US policy became to take action to prevent larger conflict.
I am not saying US policy is always right. Sometimes it drags us into things we do not need to be in. Some times it becomes all out war. However, an all out proxy war is much better than a world war.
Hindsight now tell us that appeasement was a mistake and all it does is allow the enemy to grow stronger.
Troops out of Syria isn't so bad. The Russians are there and they and Assad will be able to use methods the West doesn't like. The troops are staying in Iraq, instead of being pulled out which was Obama's mistake.Comment
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if dumbness would be a crime you would spend your life in jail !If the GB and the rest of the world had got it's act together and told Germany to not spend millions re-arming to the level it had. If Hitler had been condemned instead of praised by Germans for oppressing Germans who didn't fit his Aryan model. If France, GB, US hadn't done all it could to avoid war and settled for policies of peace. Hitler wouldn't have started WW2.
Hindsight now tell us that appeasement was a mistake and all it does is allow the enemy to grow stronger.
Troops out of Syria isn't so bad. The Russians are there and they and Assad will be able to use methods the West doesn't like. The troops are staying in Iraq, instead of being pulled out which was Obama's mistake.
tell me in wich war germany declared a war against britain?
in BOTH worldwars it was britain that declared the war to germany you dumb honk !!!!
and after that you was begging the USA to help you.
the first WW was a problem of the time when inbred kings and queens came to help each other without knowing why.
that france and england have interfered at all was due to the fact that you have always been dominated by this inbreeding.
when the german soldiers came home they didn't know that germany capitulated.
and IF they would know what burden they had to carry with the contract of versailles they would all die for not let it happen
and if they hadn't had any more ammunition, they'd have bit your throat.
you would know about terrorists BEFORE the word was created.
the contract of versailles made hitler possible and NOTHING else !!!
So YOUR ancestors created him, you stupid old fart !!!
here read that
and in case this small reflection is already too much for your little brain read the last paragraph, you uneducated dumbfuck:
World War I was a significant turning point in the political, cultural, economic, and social climate of the world. As a result of the war, the Russian Empire, the German Empire, Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire ceased to exist. Revolutions and uprisings in the aftermath of the war became widespread, being mainly socialist or anti-colonial in nature. The Big Four (Britain, France, the United States and Italy) imposed their terms in a series of treaties agreed at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference. The formation of the League of Nations was intended to prevent another world war, but for various reasons failed to do so. The rise of the Nazi Party and their central role in World War II led to a focus on how the Treaty of Versailles affected Germany, but the peace treaties in addition to various secret agreements during the war also transformed borders throughout Europe, Asia and the Middle East, with repercussions that still echo to this day.Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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to be fair - he once wrote he dropped out of school at 13...educate yourself before you write BS.
i really wait for something where you have education and knowledge.
if you would ever been to school or researched a bit about the complexity of such issues you would admit already that it is too complicated for you and shut up.
every 10 years old boy have more education and history knowledge as you old fart.Comment
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So two Germans are now telling us Germany was the victims in both World Wars.Comment
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and what tells the dumb us ?
research who have said that. Hint is was a british prime minister"One may deprive Germany of its colonies, press its armor down on a mere police force and its fleet down on the strength of a power of the fifth rank. Yet Germany will last, if it feels that it was unfairly treated in the peace of 1919, to find means to force its conquerors to restitution. ...] In order to obtain remuneration, our conditions may be strict, harsh and even ruthless, but at the same time they may be so just that the country to which we impose them feels within itself that it has no right to complain. But injustice and arrogance, displayed in the hour of triumph, will never be forgotten nor forgiven. [...] I can think of no stronger reason for a future war than that the German people, who have certainly proved themselves to be one of the most powerful and powerful tribes in the world, would be surrounded by a number of smaller states, some of which were never able to establish a stable government for themselves beforehand, but each of which would contain large numbers of Germans who desired reunification with their homeland.
and research why your ally USA refused to sign the versaille contract
because it was inhuman and violated international human rights.
i know it hurts when you are so old and have to admit that you learned NOTHING in your life and wasted it. you do not even understand the basics from things that you want to discuss. and you will never change your mind because you are already too old to start from zero. and zero is exactly the sum of your skills and knowledge.
it is not a problem if someone is dumb. the problem is when the dumb thinks he knows how to rule the world. and all what this rules from all dumbs on this planet have in common is that they are too easy and too often proved wrong.Open for handpicked publishers and advertisers:
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All the people adulating Hitler in this video. Who are they?
The Treaty of Versailles was too tough, but to blame it for the beginning of Hitler and the fanatical things he stood for is stupid. How many people were persecuted before WW2 by Germans? The night of the long knives.
The night of the broken glass.
Life Before the Holocaust.
There was even a plan to go to ready for war. The Four Year plan from 1936ā1940 was all about building the army, navy and air force to a level that made it the best in Europe. No one does that if the intentions are peaceful.Schacht, among others, wanted to respond to those shortages by privatizing the rest of German industry and massively cut back on military spending. However, Hitler disagreed, and ordered Goering to have the German economy ready for war within four years - the so-called "Four Year Plan." The German economic model at this point wasn't at all sustainable, but rather than reverse course, Hitler chose to double down. He planned to deal with the shortages by eventually engaging in Raubwirtschaft - plundering nations he planned on conquering for anything of value.
Then German involvement in the Spanish Civil War. When the effectiveness of those Armed Forces were tested.
The guilt is for the British, American, French leaders who knew what Germany was doing prior to WW2 and ignored it.Comment
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and you cat name!
Modern green energy activists will be happy))if you see this conflict on a what would be when-view you could also say that if there would have been someone that would see that is is not a good idea to let germany pay for the first ww (what they did NOT start), take them the land away and let the coal workers freeze in winter because the german coal flows to the repair countries - then there probably wouldn't have even been a hitler.
What kind methods? Supply weapon to isis?))
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While I applaud everyone's taste for history,
Please put it perspective to today.
Got scores to settle ? You can not control the past.
You can control the present by projecting the future from your actions today.
I see much of this and more conflict coming our way from two factors...
The artificial uneven distribution of wealth and
over population as it relates to jobs availability and you know those with the wealth are going to want to safeguard that position.Comment
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We can learn from our past.While I applaud everyone's taste for history,
Please put it perspective to today.
Got scores to settle ? You can not control the past.
You can control the present by projecting the future from your actions today.
I see much of this and more conflict coming our way from two factors...
The artificial uneven distribution of wealth and
over population as it relates to jobs availability and you know those with the wealth are going to want to safeguard that position.
Being nice to people who are on the path to war is never going to work.Comment
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Any comment now ?https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/19/u...ithdrawal.html
Less waging war is what he promised and it looks like he delivers. Unlike every other president before him. This is a milestone in the history of United States' usual policy of perpetual invasions, wars and coups. This is great news, even people on the left are probably applauding this anti war stance
How are you gonna spin Bolton's and Trump new declarations ?
Fake News wont do it ...


I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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It was not a good idea for the victors to go back to Germany and demand reparations.if you see this conflict on a what would be when-view you could also say that if there would have been someone that would see that is is not a good idea to let germany pay for the first ww (what they did NOT start), take them the land away and let the coal workers freeze in winter because the german coal flows to the repair countries - then there probably wouldn't have even been a hitler.
The second time around the Allies didn't do this. They did just the opposite. They invested money in rebuilding. The end result is stunning.Herschel Savage
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LOL. Who is pulling troops out of Syria?
It seems now the United States isn't pulling out of Syria "until certain conditions are met".
Here is what happened... Mr. trump there talked to someone on the phone and right on the spot decided we needed to pull out of Syria. Mr. trump then quickly made an announcement without discussing it with his Chief of Staff, the State Department, or anyone in the military. Once his Chief of Staff, the State Department, the military, and everyone else explained why we cannot just pull out of Syria.... They started pulling back from this.
This is exactly what happens when you give a failed businessman and reality game show host the most important job in the country.Herschel Savage
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wonder what this guy is thinking :




The Art of the Flip .....I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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Fixed that 4ULOL. Who is pulling troops out of Syria?
It seems now the United States isn't pulling out of Syria "until certain conditions are met".
Here is what happened... Mr. trump there talked to someone on the phone and right on the spot decided we needed to pull out of Syria. Mr. trump then quickly made an announcement without discussing it with his Chief of Staff, the State Department, or anyone in the military. Once his Chief of Staff, the State Department, the military, and everyone else explained why we cannot just pull out of Syria.... They started pulling back from this.
This is exactly what happens when you give a failed businessman and FIRED reality game show host the most important job in the country.
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... and hidding under a rock .....
Now, Bonespur is highjacking primetime TV to srell his wall ...
I hope we will sdee the chant again :
Trump: Wo will pay for the wall???
Trumpers: Mexicooooo !!!!
Trump: Who ????????
Trumpers : Mexicoooo !!!!!


amazing how stupid these people were and are ....
I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !
But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....Comment
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So after all the bullshit pandering did anyone figure out if there should be more war or less war?Telegram PhoenixBrad
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He lies about getting out of the Syria war, backtracks, then takes Americans hostage to pay for a wall that for 3 years he promised Mexico would pay for
He's such an eratic morbidly obese geriatric NapoleonComment
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But Red Hats and Paul have a 5 minute attention span.. It's now fact to them that troops are pulled out of Syria because Trump said so...LOL. Who is pulling troops out of Syria?
It seems now the United States isn't pulling out of Syria "until certain conditions are met".
Here is what happened... Mr. trump there talked to someone on the phone and right on the spot decided we needed to pull out of Syria. Mr. trump then quickly made an announcement without discussing it with his Chief of Staff, the State Department, or anyone in the military. Once his Chief of Staff, the State Department, the military, and everyone else explained why we cannot just pull out of Syria.... They started pulling back from this.
This is exactly what happens when you give a failed businessman and reality game show host the most important job in the country.
Never mind reality, they have a reality TV star that said so....In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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The only war Trump got out of was Vietnam. Just think about this...he could have been gutted by Charlie in some wet ditch along the Mekong Delta and we would be living in a totally different reality devoid of an idiot president and his pirate crew of grifters.
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