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  • the.drunk
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    • Apr 2009
    • 712

    #1

    tv has been free and profitable for years

    if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

    in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

    if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker


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  • Deej
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    • Jun 2005
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    #2
    lame jon...

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    • Agent 488
      Registered User
      • Feb 2006
      • 22511

      #3
      i think you have just saved the industry.

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      • the.drunk
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        • Apr 2009
        • 712

        #4
        Originally posted by budsbabes
        i think you have just saved the industry.


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        • Tempest
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • May 2004
          • 10217

          #5
          Originally posted by the.drunk
          if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

          in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

          if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker
          And we should listen to someone that can't even afford to pay the people he owes money to..

          I'm assuming of course that your Jon C like everyone seems to think.

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          • the.drunk
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2009
            • 712

            #6
            Originally posted by Tempest
            And we should listen to someone that can't even afford to pay the people he owes money to..

            I'm assuming of course that your Jon C like everyone seems to think.
            nope, we should listen to you
            Originally posted by Tempest
            Bingo... Anyone that trusts them are morons.. Get your money up front in prepaid if you still decide to deal with them.
            serving free content is very profitable if you do what you said in what i just quoted by you


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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #7
              Originally posted by the.drunk
              if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

              in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

              if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker
              While vastly over simplified, I agree that today's business model is changing.

              This is now a pull, not push, economy and porn buyers are tired of being fed what BRO programs think they want instead of what they really are asking for. You just have to face the facts that the content buying game, the selling of porn (online or business in general) is moving to a more tailored solution.

              It is not all about niche. It is about listening to your member base, and getting them their requests, or tailoring your content to their demands. Not feeding them same ole same ole and expecting them to pay a premium for that.

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              • the.drunk
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2009
                • 712

                #8
                shortest video on my tube is 21 minutes, lol

                you guys with your illegal by US law with 2 minute videos not converting shit can suck my cock


                and yes your fagot ass tubes full of sponsor content imported by you is a illegal tube and you by law if you are a US citizen have to have 2257 docs for all that content



                you keep calling legal tubes illegal and you're clueless, lmao



                user uploaded content is legal as long as you yhave a solid dmca policy and stick to it




                some of you are lucky you do not get sued for slander by calling legal tubes illegal



                just like hulu, you guys think it is illegal, but fact is just like with most tube is content is uploaded by the actual owner of the shit



                you see with tubes these big programs get to faze you expensive ass affiliates out


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                • the.drunk
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                  • Apr 2009
                  • 712

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barefootsies
                  While vastly over simplified, I agree that today's business model is changing.

                  This is now a pull, not push, economy and porn buyers are tired of being fed what BRO programs think they want instead of what they really are asking for. You just have to face the facts that the content buying game, the selling of porn (online or business in general) is moving to a more tailored solution.

                  It is not all about niche. It is about listening to your member base, and getting them their requests, or tailoring your content to their demands. Not feeding them same ole same ole and expecting them to pay a premium for that.

                  smart man, one of todays players




                  these has been bitches trying to fight todays players have already lost




                  we own this industry now


                  why?


                  because we give to the guys that want to stroke there cock what they want and for a fair offer



                  understand?


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                  • the.drunk
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                    • Apr 2009
                    • 712

                    #10
                    noone want to talk about facts, i love it

                    quick to hate on some shit though, you ol bitch ass pussies


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                    • the.drunk
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                      • Apr 2009
                      • 712

                      #11
                      pussies of the industry

                      that is why affiliates are being fazed out, we found out we can save alot of money going around you


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                      • the.drunk
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                        • Apr 2009
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                        #12
                        tubes tubes tubes, thank jesus for them


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                        • Paul Markham
                          Too old to care
                          • Jun 2001
                          • 52942

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                          While vastly over simplified, I agree that today's business model is changing.

                          This is now a pull, not push, economy and porn buyers are tired of being fed what BRO programs think they want instead of what they really are asking for. You just have to face the facts that the content buying game, the selling of porn (online or business in general) is moving to a more tailored solution.

                          It is not all about niche. It is about listening to your member base, and getting them their requests, or tailoring your content to their demands. Not feeding them same ole same ole and expecting them to pay a premium for that.

                          The problem today is the sellers to a large extent do not understand the product or the buyer, they're convinced that if you get the design right and throw enough traffic it will convert. The problem is that after 8 years the consumer has learned all our tricks and is not playing the game.

                          THE CUSTOMER IS KING.
                          He always was and always will be, if you don't give him what he wants someone else will.

                          But many will continue to send traffic to the wrong sites and wonder why they're losing money.



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                          • Barefootsies
                            Choice is an Illusion
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 42635

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                            THE CUSTOMER IS KING.
                            He always was and always will be, if you don't give him what he wants someone else will.

                            But many will continue to send traffic to the wrong sites and wonder why they're losing money.
                            So now the customer is king?

                            I thought it was traffic.
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                            • PornMD
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                              • Jan 2007
                              • 9291

                              #15
                              Why'd you go and break his streak of 5 posts in a row in his own thread? Now he's gotta start it all over...
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                              • Paul Markham
                                Too old to care
                                • Jun 2001
                                • 52942

                                #16
                                Originally posted by the.drunk
                                pussies of the industry

                                that is why affiliates are being fazed out, we found out we can save alot of money going around you
                                Yes very true.

                                The problem is many affiliate will still demand % that simply are not worth it. Last one I spoke to has a big Tube site and he wants 75%, I'm to upload 5-6 minute clips, BG is to have the cum shot, clips to be encoded with his domain.

                                He promises 5+ sales a day. I told him on 150 sales a week at $30 he will be on 75%. No he wants all this on 1 or 150 joins and at $2.95 or $29.95 a join.

                                Now there are sites doing what he wants, but how much is left for the site, running and filling it?

                                Not enough to give the customer a good crack. And there is why surfers are moving away from buying porn. We don't meet their needs.



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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                  The problem is many affiliate will still demand % that simply are not worth it.
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                                  • the.drunk
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                                    • Apr 2009
                                    • 712

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by PornMD
                                    Why'd you go and break his streak of 5 posts in a row in his own thread? Now he's gotta start it all over...
                                    you should stfu and let the players of the industry talk while your fagot domaining ass that admits he is nothing but a domainer in this industry


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                                    • JD
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Sep 2003
                                      • 22651

                                      #19
                                      el em eh oh

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                                      • After Shock Media
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                                        • Mar 2001
                                        • 35299

                                        #20
                                        Jon clark why do you even keep trying?
                                        What is it now, trying to see if you still have the troll ability to make something last a couple pages? At least it was a wee bit more entertaining when you were using your girlfriends fake account - also kind of odd she/you stopped posting damn near daily when you got your new fake nick approved.

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                                        • V_RocKs
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                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 32451

                                          #21
                                          I haven't seen any change in my revenue since torrents, tubes or anything else.

                                          Believe it or not there are people that prefer to pay. They like the quality. The download shit from one place without searching all over the fucking place... etc... etc... etc...

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                                          • Paul Markham
                                            Too old to care
                                            • Jun 2001
                                            • 52942

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                            So now the customer is king?

                                            I thought it was traffic.
                                            I suppose different things are the most important part depending on your skills.

                                            Getting traffic is easy, yes easy, getting them to buy something is tough. If you have something that's hard to sell then you might convert 1-1000. Now to double your sales is it easier to to sell to 1 of the 999 people who clearly are not interested in buying or get another 1000 people?

                                            I find it easier to get more people to buy than get more people who don't buy.

                                            Others are convinced the customers will not buy and the only solution is to get another 1,000. Today there are not another 1,000 people to be had, unless you take them from someone else, who will in turn take them from you.

                                            So we all spend too much time and money trying to grab traffic from each other rather than spend more on selling to the traffic we already have.

                                            Does it work? Look around you and tell me it's working.

                                            But there will always be one sponsor who tells us his sites are doing better than even.



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                                              #23
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                                              • Jdoughs
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                                                • Mar 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                you should stfu and let the players of the industry talk while your fagot domaining ass that admits he is nothing but a domainer in this industry
                                                You should learn how to type, talk, speak, and spell english.

                                                You type like a drunk 12 yr old who hasn't eaten anything but Mushrooms for the day.

                                                Seriously, don't pretend to know shit when you can't even form a simple sentence.

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                                                • candyflip
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                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                  • 43073

                                                  #25
                                                  Jon Clark. Biggest. Adult Industry. Failure. Ever.

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                                                  • HorseShit
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                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 17513

                                                    #26
                                                    His board is a huge success

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                                                    • BFT3K
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                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                      • 10764

                                                      #27
                                                      You can compare free porn to commercial TV once Pizza Hut and Coca Cola begin advertising on PornHub and RedTube, etc.

                                                      Until then, the comparison is not valid at all.

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                                                      • MaDalton
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                                                        • Feb 2004
                                                        • 39861

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by BFT3K
                                                        You can compare free porn to commercial TV once Pizza Hut and Coca Cola begin advertising on PornHub and RedTube, etc.

                                                        Until then, the comparison is not valid at all.
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                                                        • Raf1
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                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                          • 12117

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                          I haven't seen any change in my revenue since torrents, tubes or anything else.

                                                          Believe it or not there are people that prefer to pay. They like the quality. The download shit from one place without searching all over the fucking place... etc... etc... etc...
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                                                          • Rochard
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                                                            • Dec 2001
                                                            • 75761

                                                            #30
                                                            TV isn't free. I pay $50 a month for it.
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                                                            • Deej
                                                              I make pixels work
                                                              • Jun 2005
                                                              • 24386

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Jdoughs
                                                              You should learn how to type, talk, speak, and spell english.

                                                              You type like a drunk 12 yr old who hasn't eaten anything but Mushrooms for the day.

                                                              Seriously, don't pretend to know shit when you can't even form a simple sentence.

                                                              Meathead.
                                                              This is normal because jon clark (the OP) is a completely ignorant and bastardized fool.

                                                              Thinks he knows everything about us and our industry, yet cant seem to get anywhere or make an intelligent statement to date.

                                                              Mother fucker has ideas sure... but its how the stupid fuck goes about trying to form these ideas into reality... no integrity and no true business sense.

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                                                              • Manowar
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                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                • 71528

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                I haven't seen any change in my revenue since torrents, tubes or anything else.

                                                                Believe it or not there are people that prefer to pay. They like the quality. The download shit from one place without searching all over the fucking place... etc... etc... etc...
                                                                I love those people.

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                                                                • Ozarkz
                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                  • Jan 2009
                                                                  • 2377

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                  if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

                                                                  in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

                                                                  if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker
                                                                  You stupid mother fucker. You need to just shut the fuck up.

                                                                  Do you know what a TV Commercial is?

                                                                  You can't afford a server. Your tubesites have sponsor hosts FLVs. Nobody gives a fuck about you nobody will ever give a fuck about you stop trying to bullshit and pretend you pathetic fucking loser.
                                                                  Last edited by Ozarkz; 04-24-2009, 08:51 AM.

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                                                                  • PornMD
                                                                    Mainstream Businessman
                                                                    • Jan 2007
                                                                    • 9291

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                    you should stfu and let the players of the industry talk while your fagot domaining ass that admits he is nothing but a domainer in this industry
                                                                    Sure thing, champ...sorry to interrupt your players-only discussion with my playa-hatin' ways. So where were you again on the commercial-less illegal adult tube site online being exactly like the commercialized legal mainstream TV sector offline?
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                                                                    • CyberHustler
                                                                      Masterbaiter
                                                                      • Feb 2006
                                                                      • 28781

                                                                      #35
                                                                      How you start a thread on MP called "newbie here" then come here acting like a expert?
                                                                      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                        • 60840

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                        if someone wants premium tv they pay for it, that has also been profitable for years

                                                                        in the current state of the adult industry you either offer free or premium entertainment, both are profitable to offer if you know what you are doping

                                                                        if you do not know what you are doing you will be broke no matter what so shut the fuck up and learn to do something and stop bitching you fagot ass pansy mother fucker
                                                                        you realize telvision is mostly ads, and magazines and newspapers, both of which cost, are 65% or more ads right?

                                                                        television is not free, nor will it ever be, especially with digital cable being forced on everyone, it is definitely not free.

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                                                                        • CyberHustler
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                                                                          • Feb 2006
                                                                          • 28781

                                                                          #37
                                                                          “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                          • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 16502

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                            you should stfu and let the players of the industry talk
                                                                            why dont you take your own advice? youre not a player jon, youre a loser, get fucked.

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                                                                            • ProG
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Apr 2009
                                                                              • 1319

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                              Do you know what a TV Commercial is?
                                                                              DVR? I can't remember the last time I watched a commercial. Although, my cable certainly isn't free.
                                                                              History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.

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                                                                              • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                • 60840

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by ProG
                                                                                DVR? I can't remember the last time I watched a commercial. Although, my cable certainly isn't free.
                                                                                Ahoy! better be careful thar, the copyright and content protectors will come in here and will condemn you for using that EVIL technology known as time shifting ;)

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                                                                                • the.drunk
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                                                                                  • Apr 2009
                                                                                  • 712

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PornMD
                                                                                  So where were you again on the commercial-less illegal adult tube site online being exactly like the commercialized legal mainstream TV sector offline?
                                                                                  tube sites have ads, they make alot of money from them ads, that is no different from free tv full of ads, and the system has been profitable forever



                                                                                  btw, most tubes you think are illegal are really legal and the tubes full of sponsor hosted content you think are legal are in fact illegal


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                                                                                  • Ozarkz
                                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                                    • Jan 2009
                                                                                    • 2377

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by ProG
                                                                                    DVR? I can't remember the last time I watched a commercial. Although, my cable certainly isn't free.
                                                                                    What are you Jon's brother? You can't be this stupid.

                                                                                    It doesn't matter if people DVR and skip the ads the ads have already paid to be played on the network.

                                                                                    The brands have already paid for their products to be placed in the shows.

                                                                                    This is why advertisers have a problem with Tivo, etc.

                                                                                    Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                                    tube sites have ads, they make alot of money from them ads, that is no different from free tv full of ads, and the system has been profitable forever

                                                                                    btw, most tubes you think are illegal are really legal and the tubes full of sponsor hosted content you think are legal are in fact illegal
                                                                                    You're an idiot.

                                                                                    This is soo simple to comprehend I don't even feel like trying to explain it to you because it will just be a waste. No matter what anyone says you will talk out of your ass to try and look right.

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                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                      • 17189

                                                                                      #43


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                                                                                      • PornMD
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                                                                                        • Jan 2007
                                                                                        • 9291

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by the.drunk
                                                                                        btw, most tubes you think are illegal are really legal and the tubes full of sponsor hosted content you think are legal are in fact illegal
                                                                                        I'm sorry, I meant "legal" tubes posting other sites' copyrighted material that they charge money for without their permission through "uploaders" who supposedly aren't them...my bad.
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                                                                                        • MrCodey

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          mmm what if China Gogetski takes your premium content and puts it on his free tube?

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                                                                                          • Dennis69
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 1685

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                            TV isn't free. I pay $50 a month for it.
                                                                                            We get 2 channels for free... and they are total crap, you want better you have to pay!
                                                                                            HaHaHa

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                                                                                            • the.drunk
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                                                                                              • Apr 2009
                                                                                              • 712

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Dennis69
                                                                                              We get 2 channels for free... and they are total crap, you want better you have to pay!


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