Sexsearch inisde drama!!!!

I will try and make this crystal clear again. Before we found out the address that was submitted was incorrect we naturally paid him. Not thinking there was anything suspicious about the account. When the circumstances changed the account was immediately flagged for review.

I don't see why this is difficult to comprehend for some. People can bash all they want but I stand by my decision to review the account and hold any payments until the account is cleared by me. I feel anyone with any sense about business would understand this.

First off, if you are a webmaster for Russia you would have to be approved first. Russia is on our banned country list for obvious reasons.

Second, if you think Sex Search doesn't pay affiliates based on this situation then I gave you more credit then I should have when reading other posts you have made throughout your time posting here.

I'll take the credit for the arrogance and rudeness. That was an astute observation because I tend to respond that way when I feel its appropriate. It helps me weed out some of the people that can't keep up.

everyone knew about zango & SS... and now they complain for not getting paid...
(damn... that was a long read)

Just because a sales rep contacts someone doesn't mean they turn out to be a legitimate webmaster. I'll give you a perfect example that I think even you could agree with.

Sometime back in 2007 one of our sales people contacted someone named Andrew McCoy to purchase some advertising space. We sent him a check for $3,250.00 and with an I/O, invoice and contract we expected to get the traffic and signups that we paid for.

Guess what? It's seems this Andrew McCoy wasn't a legitimate webmaster after all. But one would have thought this person was based on the circumstances. But it looks like the sales rep was incorrect. Just goes to show you that not everyone you contact is legit.

Now I'm not saying the webmaster that started this thread is not legit. As I posted earlier, the account is being reviewed. But I want your opinion on something since you seem to have a grasp on who is a dbag in this industry. Would you say this Andrew McCoy character is?

And just so you know who NYRangers is Chris I'll enlighten you. My name is Ed and you could say I'm the COO of Sex Search. I'm sorry you weren't aware of that. I always thought I was pretty open about who I was.

Thanks for chipping in.

What is there to review?

1) The man sent you some valid - as in paying - joins.

2) As a result, you were paid.

3) Now, it's your turn to pay the man his commission.


So.... why don't you tell us exactly what else you expect your "review" to reveal?

Did you really get that interpretation? Did you actually read all of the posts by myself and the thread starter about the situation being handled? Or did I make it sound like we were doing nothing about it?

Maybe i didn't choose my words wisely and should have just posted the following sentence, "The situation is being addressed between myself and the person that started the thread!" But where would the fun have been with that? (catch the sarcasm please)

Sorry that my comment stung. Even if your statement was true about the chargebacks that would pretty much help one observe that you sent garbage signups. There are very few webmasters that have ever been termed for excessive chargebacks. Let me know your webmaster account number and I will give you the exact number of chargebacks you had.

I'd be willing to back up your claim if it is true. I'm not afraid to post the numbers.

When someone expects to be paid by ePassporte or by wire they tend to put in anything to the address field because they think it is unnecessary. It happens quite frequently. Ask anyone who accepts ePassporte webmaster payments about it.

Believe me, I certainly didn't ignore your thread. I'm glad I get the chance to actually respond to you. I tried contacting you numerous times on ICQ back when you were blowing your horn about Zango. But you never seemed to want to respond. All the time your name remains in the "Waiting For Authorization" list. I just took you for some ignorant loud mouth that couldn't come up with his/her own original thought and just liked to hear his own voice. So let me respond to you now so you can feel important.

Where in this thread do you see me side stepping the issue? I'm guessing you didn't even read the thread or you would know that that question is pretty stupid. So I know I shouldn't assume but I have to this one time. Am I right to believe you just wanted to spout off again because you missed the sound of your own voice and wanted to impress some people?

If the account is reviewed and cleared he will be paid his money. If it is not cleared then he won't be. It is my call and I will make the decision. Ivan even acknowledged this.

Don't people like you ever get sick of saying the same garbage about bro's and having drinks at trade shows? It's a tired line and really is pretty ignorant. Come up with something more accurate. And as for me thinking anonymous posters deserve less attention, so be it. I think that is pretty much common sense business practice. If you don't have the courtesy to acknowledge who you are then I guess I don't find it necessary to particularly care what you have to say to me. That might come across as being arrogant but I don't mind. I know it doesn't mean much coming from me, but if anyone in this business is not arrogant it's me.

I already apologized for Marina's response and acknowledged it was not wise. Keep beating the issue.

This isn't a thread about Zango but I'll give you an answer just to hopefully shut you up. We don't accept Zango traffic. If you see any Zango traffic coming to us please let me know and I will get it stopped.

Is there something wrong with Orgasm.com? Does it bother you that it is a tube site?

Thanks for the clarification. You learn something new every day.

Let me ask you this, how many times do I have to explain about the payment before you get it? Do I need to use a poker analogy? How about this... When the last card is turned over we'll know where the money goes.

Did that help?

1) Do you know they are valid joins? Can you tell me the activity of these valid joins on the site?

2) Were we paid? Were any of the transactions credited or charged back? Were they all cleared? I wish if you knew all of this information from the start you could have saved all of us time and this could have been resolved instantly.

3) I've talked about this in numerous posts. Look for some of them.

I would never tell you or anyone else what processes I use when reviewing an account for obvious reasons. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt of knowing why that is the case.

So, what you're saying is that you didn't check any of this before mailing him those checks that were subsequently returned?

I must say that your review processes are indeed quite unique and original.

I doubt I ever viewed adult with blinders, but some principles should apply before going out public.

For example last year I waited for money for 8 months, of course a drama thread or something like this would do serious, serious damage to the company that was even advertised here, if I'm not mistaken.

I got my money though, although it took a trip to Florida to get it, you should be able to handle your money without crying public.

To your question - I don't know, it's just another speculation, as 99 pct. of the thread, people shouting here are only used to accept / deny, they're not used to think.

I know who you are, just in general you are acting like a dipshit.

Ive seen more professional people from spyware installers

But that didn't stop you guys from stealing webmaster traffic 2 years ago when you was using zango. SS's lack of response to the situation spoke volumes. So you stance now is that you don't accept zango traffic but the fact still remains that you did at one time. SS was caught with their hand in the cookie jar and now you expect webmasters to forget about what SS did. I really don't think that's going to happen. I know I won't forget and many others here won't either.

Gary

So you have been "reviewing" his account for how long now? 2.5 months?

It takes a couple of days tops.

ROFL!

NYRangers is so caught up in his bullshit exuses, it's hilarious.

We pay webmasters by epassporte and I know it happens all the time - but not when webmaster is expecting to get paid by checks, which is the case here. Your guy asked to switch him to epassporte payments only after his 4 checks bounced back which is absolutely not typical for scammers - they're usually pretty accurate with their payment info because they need to get as many payments as possible before they got caught or under scrutiny.

Yoo first of all, I don't want to tongue her ass or something as you said. I am happily married and have no interest in Marina except as an affiliate manager who help me out. As far as her looks, yes she is good looking as I said but it's not to be taken as far as your perverted 15 year old head does.
Marina told the guy he will get his money but has to wait for his epass payment not sure what is the problem with him.
Second if he puts up a thread like this and doesn't want to deal with her or the company with issues directly after they told him he has to wait then yes he is a big fucken cry baby.

I see that you're resorting to personal insults and attacks, well done. I figured you'd hang yourself if given enough rope, I didn't expect anything less.

There are no pending authorizations on my ICQ, in fact I never gave you my contact info. I'd have to say that's one of those 'exxagerations' you're quite masterful at.

I read the whole thread. I just wanted a straight answer from you instead of red herring tactics, questioning people's integrity, ridiculing people and resorting to personal attacks. I guess it took 6 pages for you to give some some semblance of a straight answer, as absurd as the answer may be. I don't believe I was alone in not understanding your obfuscated posts.


Perhaps you owed the gentleman the obligation to tell him the criteria of your 'review process', he shouldn't have needed to expose you first on a public board and force a straight answer.


And now that you've exhausted every other option, you're finally trying to clear the air, as discourteous as you are in doing it.

It's perfectly accurate and exactly truthful. The nepotism that goes on in this industry is sickening as evidenced by the idiots that blindly have taken your side on this issue in spite of your reputation. It's not a 'tired line', it's a issue that should be addressed every time it rears it's ugly head.



Not taking away from your apology, you only did so after 2 dozen or so people posted about it.




I'm glad to see that you've finally publically stated your position on Zango after the numerous threads you dodged and avoided. Thank you.

And now that you've so eloquently voiced your opinion in your response, let me voice mine: you are an insolent, audacious little prick. The objective of engaging you in a civil debate is because you will infallibly show your true colors of how you conduct yourself and your business, then people can make an informed decision to work with you or not.

Nicely put, I tip my hat to you sir.

Gary

sexsearch sucks.

Well, you're certainly accepting traffic from Tube8. How about putting a halt to that?

I'm going to respond to his post but before I do I need to make sure I acknowledge you. Because that's what you need. Another mindless follower from everything I have ever read that you posted.

I am kind of curious to know who you are and what you do but it's probably a waste of time.

Personal insults and attacks? Just because I stated an opinion of what you are? So be it. Based on all your previous posts in numerous threads I would have thought my description was more of an observation than a personal attack. Call it what you wish, as long as it helps you sleep at night. Is this the point where I am supposed to make some kind of gurgling noise because I am hanging myself? I guess that rope is a little longer. Brace yourself, maybe it's coming in the rest of this post.

Sorry but I don't exaggerate. I tried contacting you numerous times based on the ICQ number that was either found through GFY or someone on GFY. I kind of figured it was accurate because when I did the search of the account number the name associated with it was RFremont. Grant it the contact was numerous times back when you were on the Zango bandwagon so maybe I figured you just ignored it. Which is why I made the assumption that you were another ignorant poster that just liked to hear your own voice and not have the courtesy of speaking to me one on one.

If you wanted a straight answer from me because you couldn't interpret my English then you should have contacted me. Many other people seemed to understand my replies. I'd like to think that you have a grasp on the English language because of the big words you included in your reply. Very impressive but you probably confused some of the mindless. The original poster seemed to understand what I said. I'm sorry that you think it took 6 pages. Can I do something to reimburse the time you spent having to read through a post that had nothing to do with you? In an attempt to do my part to mend our broken fence I will let people know that obfuscate is an intellectual way of saying confusing. Just to take it a step further, intellectual is a way of saying smart.

Ivan got his explanation. He was the only one that needed it and he got it. If you agree with what you posted, why would I need to explain it to you as well?

I won't disagree that I am being discourteous. It's my way of lowering myself to the level of some posters. But as I have stated in an earlier post, I don't find it necessary to treat someone with respect that doesn't have the courtesy to even acknowledge who they are. If someone finds it necessary to conceal their identity the I believe there is no reason to treat them as an equal. Call it courtesy or call it common business sense.

What you call nepotism is pretty much using someone that you disagree with as a scapegoat. Thinking that everyone that is "against" you must be in cohorts with everyone else that is "against" you. You seem to think that anyone that doesn't agree with your stance has something to gain by agreeing with me. Plain and simple that is called being hypocritical. Your own personal bro club. Grow up, this isn't about high school clicks. It's about business and life.

I'm sorry my apology didn't come within seconds. I do not monitor this board or any board on a non stop basis. As a matter of fact I knew nothing about the post until someone messaged me and gave me the heads up. Then I surveyed the circumstances and did what I thought I should to address the situation.

Did I show my true colors in this "debate?" I actually take being called insolent and audacious as being a compliment when dealing with most of the mindless posters. I am pretty confident in what I have to say and feel strongly that how the situation is being handled is the right way.

Just for the record, in case I didn't show my true colors I'll be arrogant and spiteful one last time in this post. Problem is most of the idiots won't get it. But here goes...

Nepotism is a university way of saying playing favorites.

Did you even read my posts or did you pick and choose what you wanted to read and to interpret it how you want?

The review processes are pretty good. But I'm guessing you can not comprehend why. What do you do so I can try and describe it in terms that you understand.

Sad that you felt it was necessary to acknowledge me but the person you should give acknowledgment to is the guy who started this thread regarding his payment. It won't surprise me tho if he doesn't get paid given SS's past discretion's. As far as being a mindless follower if that what you think that's fine with me, think what you want. I can read and comprehend and know when I'm being feed a line of bullshit.

As far as who I am and what I do. I am a father and a husband(20 years this October). I work hard to make a buck always have. Not so much in adult anymore but still have domains with this and that on them it's more of a hobby for me now. Do mainstream now plus other business ventures. I don't keep all my eggs in one basket.

Gary

You know what, this just goes to show that you didn't read the thread. If you did you would know that I have acknowledged Ivan and have spoken to him about the situation. He is the only person that needs to be appeased and he has been. That is pretty much why you don't see him coming in the thread and talking to me about the situation. We have discussed it. If the decision that I make does not turn out in his favor then he will post what he feels is necessary. If the decision turns out in his favor then who knows what will happen. It is my responsibility to deal with him, not you or anyone else.

It's nice to know that you think SS doesn't pay people. You might be able to convince more people if you posted in every thread. That way you'd be guaranteed to make sure everyone sees.

Congrats on the 20 years. Pretty impressive in this day and age for sure.

How long until facebook sues sexsearch?

Someone should really email their legal dept with the infringing details sex search is using to profit from the facebook copyright

lots of words here...

To hard to comprehend... I only like short words... Like 'Poo'...

I like poo...

Wow the harshness and condemnation out of a lot of the big players lately..

The guilt of tubes, shaving, and the zango days are really doing a number on a few 'bro' personalities..

So did this fucking guy get paid? I DOUBT IT

Nice big bump!

bump for sunday!

did you get money?
did someone from sex search respond?

As they said: They will know on monday if they will pay me or not..

Big BUMP for paying!!!

you should really speeded this up couse you're losing the business(affiliates). i thought like you're trying to stay cool by any price few pages ago, now its looks like you enjoy the pain of getting your reputation wasted

how that goes?

"I could have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute, baby

I can have another you by tomorrow
So don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable"

...something like that

so monday is payday for you, empty1987?
after reading almost this entire thread, I am sure you will get paid.
well you should get paid, but heh the NYRANGERS person is not the brightest bulb in the company it looks like, glad I am NOT promoting them and after you get paid, get off your lazy butt and find a better sponsor, like everybody else.

This thread probably cost them more than the missing payments.

it was a rogue employee named manuel lopez

I'm going to have to second the 2 and a half months for reviewing this being on the lengthy side. $1k may not be a lot to SS but can be quite a lot to webmasters, and they were happy to send him checks with no review. There's not a whole lot of referrals to investigate, if that's even necessary to begin with - less than 20 of them and that takes over 2 and a half months?

I dunno - good luck empty and hope this goes smoothly from here on out.

to be fair i think the wait time is for the chargeback report not for them to actually look at it .


The way i see it the wait-time and reviews are pretty fair/standard ( for the situation ) its just the responses from the reps that standout and the fact this should all have been explained/understood before it got to gfy

pay the fucking guy already ...?

Here's a early Monday BUMP!!!!

bump for justice