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  • Shap
    Confirmed User
    • May 2001
    • 8313

    #1

    For those that use Verotel....

    WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.
  • Agent 488
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    verotel is top notch stand up whatever.

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    • Sly
      Let's do some business!
      • Sep 2004
      • 31379

      #3
      I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

      1) Nobody else will process for their content.

      2) Don't want to pay the Visa fee (assuming that is still in place.)
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      • MetaMan
        I AM WEB 2.0
        • Jan 2003
        • 28682

        #4
        Tubesssssssssssssssssssssss

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        • Barefootsies
          Choice is an Illusion
          • Feb 2005
          • 42635

          #5


          Shake Y'er Bon Bon Baby...
          Should You Email Your Members?

          Link1 | Link2 | Link3

          Enough Said.

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          • stickyfingerz
            Doin fine
            • Oct 2005
            • 24984

            #6
            I know there are many sites that can't process else where. A lot of the fetish stuff that isn't allowed by the other 2. I have a verotel account but its not being used. Waiting to see how things come out before I add it to our ccbill cascade (think I heard its available now, or will be soon haven't taken time to look yet).

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            • marketsmart
              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
              • Dec 2004
              • 20419

              #7
              Originally posted by Barefootsies


              Shake Y'er Bon Bon Baby...
              i will sell you a picture of his feet for $17.00........

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              • Ozarkz
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 2377

                #8

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                • fuzebox
                  making it rain
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 22363

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sly
                  I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

                  1) Nobody else will process for their content.


                  Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.

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                  • xxxdesign-net
                    My hips don't lie
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 10129

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fuzebox
                    Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.
                    what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?

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                    • CIVMatt
                      Amateur Pimpin
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 13075

                      #11
                      Because your cheap ass can take "tickets" and avoid paying the $750 fee I hear

                      stupid move...
                      Make easy money with Webcams

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                      • marketsmart
                        HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 20419

                        #12
                        Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                        what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?
                        only for the non-french canadians...

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                        • notime
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 8027

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sly
                          I can only think of two possible reasons; one is legitimate, one should not be.

                          1) Nobody else will process for their content.

                          2) Don't want to pay the Visa fee (assuming that is still in place.)
                          Originally posted by fuzebox


                          Another big one was that until recently, it was difficult for Canadians to get setup with CCBill and Epoch.
                          You guys might wanna check out www.dialxs.com from The Netherlands

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                          • polish_aristocrat
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 40377

                            #14
                            Nylz looked much more like Ricky Martin than Shap does...
                            I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                            • Roald
                              SecretFriends.com
                              • May 2001
                              • 27910

                              #15
                              Oh come on Shap, you taking shots at processors now?

                              You are way better than that man ;)))


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                              • fuzebox
                                making it rain
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 22363

                                #16
                                Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                what do you mean until recently? CCbill is processing for canadians now?
                                Yes, they announced it late last year.

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                                • xxxdesign-net
                                  My hips don't lie
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 10129

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fuzebox
                                  Yes, they announced it late last year.
                                  shit, i missed the big thread...

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                                  • Shoplifter
                                    Richest man in Babylon
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 5867

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                    WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.
                                    Verotel was much better with sales and rebills for us than the other guys. 35% or so. I get the feeling that some IPSP's are even scrubbing rebills nowadays. Verotel was really good with all this, and one of the things that angers me most about their recent meltdown is that we now have to consider processing options that may not be as advantageous.

                                    Verotel has had a couple of colossal problems right from the beginning though, the first is that their public relations are a nightmare, and the second is that their systems have not changed with the times in any way. This must be hurting them a lot...If their affiliate program options only involve MPA/NATS well why bother when I can put Zombaio in the cascade at 5%.

                                    I truly hope they can re-invent themselves, do away with some of the outrageous fees they have, hire some management that will inspire trust and modernize their setup.
                                    I Like Blondes

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                                    • Barefootsies
                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                      • Feb 2005
                                      • 42635

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Shoplifter
                                      Verotel was much better with sales and rebills for us than the other guys. 35% or so. I get the feeling that some IPSP's are even scrubbing rebills nowadays. Verotel was really good with all this

                                      I truly hope they can re-invent themselves, do away with some of the outrageous fees they have, hire some management that will inspire trust and modernize their setup.
                                      Should You Email Your Members?

                                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                      Enough Said.

                                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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                                      • FreeHugeMovies
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Dec 2001
                                        • 14141

                                        #20
                                        We need a Nylz pic here! Rossy?

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                                        • MsCheyenne
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2005
                                          • 412

                                          #21
                                          Gee, I remember thinking how wonderful Ibill was. They were a leader in the industry for years. Now, CCbill and Epoch are great. I especially like CCbill a lot. All the same, no one should ever be completely comfortable in their credit card merchant. Always have a plan B.

                                          Cheyenne

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                                          • marketsmart
                                            HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                            • Dec 2004
                                            • 20419

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by MsCheyenne
                                            Gee, I remember thinking how wonderful Ibill was. They were a leader in the industry for years. Now, CCbill and Epoch are great. I especially like CCbill a lot. All the same, no one should ever be completely comfortable in their credit card merchant. Always have a plan B.

                                            Cheyenne
                                            your avatar hurts me...

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                                            • Jakez
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Jan 2004
                                              • 5656

                                              #23
                                              The answer is simple, Verotel was a lot easier to get a site going with.
                                              [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400

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                                              • dialxs
                                                Registered User
                                                • Apr 2009
                                                • 15

                                                #24
                                                You could take a look at dialxs.com , Payment Service Providers one of the leading in Europe and also covering the US ;-)
                                                Payment Service Provider

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                                                • darksoul
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Apr 2002
                                                  • 4997

                                                  #25
                                                  wow Shap, when did you turn is such an asshole ? You used to be cool.
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                                                  • Lady Masquerade
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2008
                                                    • 160

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Jakez
                                                    The answer is simple, Verotel was a lot easier to get a site going with.
                                                    i can only agree
                                                    hit me!

                                                    promote me!

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                                                    • rowan
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                      • 17393

                                                      #27
                                                      I use Ticketsclub on one site since it's not worth paying a yearly Visa fee. It's always been "small" (the busiest year probably netted about $15k) but that's dwindled off gradually to beer money level. Maybe $1000-$1500 a year.

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                                                      • RTVS
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Feb 2008
                                                        • 17

                                                        #28
                                                        Why Verotel: Well because of the following:

                                                        We offer totally FREE third party billing accounts as well as own merchant accounts.

                                                        o Competitive Processing Rates and Volume Discounts
                                                        o Higher conversion rates compared to our competitors
                                                        o We payout like clockwork and have never missed a payment!
                                                        o Weekly payouts in US Dollars, Euros or British Pounds
                                                        o We support MULTI-CURRENCY BILLING ? enabling you to increase your revenue!
                                                        o We are in Europe and European rules and regulations are different than in the US.
                                                        o We are certified with Visa and MasterCard as a Payment Service Provider (PSP).
                                                        o We are PCI and DSS certified with Visa and MasterCard.
                                                        o We hold your money securely in an independently managed Escrow account. This means your funds are safe and secure no matter what.
                                                        o We are in payment processing since 1998.

                                                        If you have any additional questions or you need more information, please feel free to contact us.

                                                        Have a good weekend.

                                                        Robbert van Schaick
                                                        Merchant Relationship Executive
                                                        Verotel Merchant Services BV
                                                        Tel: +31 20 320 88 33
                                                        Fax: +31 20 320 88 32

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                                                        • HorseShit
                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                          • 17513

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by darksoul
                                                          wow shap, when did you turn is such an asshole ? You used to be cool.
                                                          He's not an asshole

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                                                          • Ross
                                                            Ik ben een aap
                                                            • Sep 2002
                                                            • 18874

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
                                                            We need a Nylz pic here! Rossy?
                                                            Yes Sir?

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                                                            • Drake
                                                              Hello world!
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 12508

                                                              #31
                                                              It can't hurt to have another processor in your cascade. Just put it dead last in the cascade.

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                                                              • grumpy
                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                • 9870

                                                                #32
                                                                no problems here with Verotel.
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                                                                • FreeHugeMovies
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 14141

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by ross
                                                                  yes sir?

                                                                  tranny!
                                                                  !!

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                                                                  • sortie
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Mar 2007
                                                                    • 7771

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Shap
                                                                    WHY? You have Ccbill and Epoch that have amazing track records. For any site owner, that has decided to use 3rd party processing, using anyone besides Ccbill and Epoch is just a huge risk and mistake. Nobody feels sorry for you when shit goes wrong they just wonder WTF were you thinking.
                                                                    Maybe they all left IBill.

                                                                    Which, if this was 6 years ago, your post would have included Ibill along with Epoch and CCBill as having amazing track records.

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                                                                    • Barefootsies
                                                                      Choice is an Illusion
                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                      • 42635

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Ross
                                                                      Yes Sir?

                                                                      Looks more like Vanilla Ice
                                                                      Should You Email Your Members?

                                                                      Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                                      Enough Said.

                                                                      "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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