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The universe is a HUGE place. A little too big just for humans on one small planet to be the only ones out there. Makes not much sense. So long term time will tell I guess.Comment
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Let all of us sane people come together and remind ourselves that there is absolutely no technology, and zero possibility of technology existing that we as mankind don't already know about. We as a planet are special, because there couldn't possibly be any other place as special as us, we're special you see. And last but not least, that we have a democractically elected government who loves us dearly. They wouldn't do anything like lie to us abotu something, ever.Comment
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BFT3K after the first time I went into your studio, I knew there were UFO's out there. Plus you have that wall to communicate with them...lol
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I heard there may be some life in Europa..
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perhaps life on earth came from somewhere else..
universe may not be as large as we imagine.. some scientists were measuring the speed of light and it seemed that light once out far enough in space "bends".
if you take this theory it could basically mean that light or any other matter travelling out far enough in the universe, re-enters universe in a different corner."Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author UnknownComment
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I am no expert on this, i am not religious, i have no idea if we are alone or not. i tend to think that the universe is so incredible huge that everything is possible. but we will probably never find out because of the speed of light we can always just look back in time while a whole civilization could exists just around the corner - more or less.
but - one of those things that make me wonder comes from the bible, old testament. i mean, that book already exists a very long time, it's not that someone smuggled that into the bible in 1969 when he took too much LSD.
In the book of Ezekiel it says:
more: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...r=1&version=314 I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north?an immense cloud with flashing lightning and surrounded by brilliant light. The center of the fire looked like glowing metal, 5 and in the fire was what looked like four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man, 6 but each of them had four faces and four wings. 7 Their legs were straight; their feet were like those of a calf and gleamed like burnished bronze. 8 Under their wings on their four sides they had the hands of a man. All four of them had faces and wings, 9 and their wings touched one another. Each one went straight ahead; they did not turn as they moved.
10 Their faces looked like this: Each of the four had the face of a man, and on the right side each had the face of a lion, and on the left the face of an ox; each also had the face of an eagle. 11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out upward; each had two wings, one touching the wing of another creature on either side, and two wings covering its body. 12 Each one went straight ahead. Wherever the spirit would go, they would go, without turning as they went. 13 The appearance of the living creatures was like burning coals of fire or like torches. Fire moved back and forth among the creatures; it was bright, and lightning flashed out of it. 14 The creatures sped back and forth like flashes of lightning.
the question is: how much fantasy can someone have a few thousand years ago to imagine something that to our understanding technically could not have existed at that time. Was he someone like Jules Verne? did he smoke the wrong stuff? or wtf is he talking about?Last edited by MaDalton; 04-21-2009, 03:52 PM.Comment
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I've looked at a few videos on youtube and watched the confernce on cnn yesterday.....It's making a believer out of me I must say.
This UFO organization has gotten so big over the years that they got on cnn about it ....They have Thousand's of witnesses from UFO encounters , not to mention the hundreds of government officials from USA , Britain , Ukraine , Russia , and other nations backing this up ....
EVEN EX-PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER ENCOUNTERED A UFO AND SPENT HIS PRESIDENCY TRYING GET ANSWERS ABOUT IT AND GET THE TRUTH OUT...
"Sarah, there?s a government inside the government, and I don?t control it."
-Bill Clinton , as quoted by senior White House reporter Sarah McClendon in reply to why he wasn?t doing anything about UFO disclosure.
But hey don't look at me like i'm crazy , look at some of these videos yourself...
BUSH LYING TO YOUR FACE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z93PrwYURkk
LAST 7 MINUTES OF CONFERENCE YESTERDAY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTr6PDtgytw&
MEXICAN ARMED FORCES CAPTURE VIDEO - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDOOZ_IPb6Y
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There is no doubt in my mind that there is just other life out there. The odds are for it. There are billions of planets out there; One of them has to have intelligent life on it.
Some day a rag tag fleet from another world will just show up at our doorstep. Just like in Battlestar Galatica.Herschel Savage
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Statistically, it would be IMPOSSIBLE if we were alone in this universe. Given the billions upon billions of stars out there and each have planets. Even factoring in the narrow band of factors life requires, you'd still be left with hundreds of thousands if not millions of planets that could be conducive to life.Comment
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I look at it this way. They've proven that microbes can live under antarctic ice. There are probably MILLIONS of viable planets in our universe... just because we haven't confirmed them yet doesn't mean they don't exist..... Having all of these planets available and having us the only one that has life is literally as unbelievable to me as a farmer planting 100 hectares of corn and only producing one ear. Makes far less sense logically than to assume there IS other life out there. Just not neccessarily what we expect.Comment
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at all the internet experts on physics and space in this thread
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The generation that gets eaten. I hope to god I'm not around when it happens. To (loosely) quote Stephen Hawking: If there is any life-form out there sophisticated enough to travel from their galaxy to ours, we'd be lucky if they consider us more evolved than we consider insects. They'll probably use us for food or fuel, in the best case scenario they'd just ignore us.Converting like a mofoComment
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Instead of landing in Idaho and abducting a potato farmer?
We are not alone, there has to be life out there somewhere. Not Star Wars or Star Trek type stuff, just some life somewhere.
So let's assume there is and look at how advanced we are, we struggle to get man on Mars, to get life onto another inhabited planet think of the civilization it would need to achieve it. And think of the massive investment.
We spent a fortune going to the Moon and what did it bring us? Maybe Mars will have something that's worth stretching technology to it's limits to bring it back. What could it be and how much would we need?Comment
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I think he's so wrong in that point of view..
When intelligence reached a lever, the beings, in this case humans, becomes conscious .. self aware.. that's the whole difference between us and animals.. we know we exist, we know we're humans... we can communicate.. also with beings alot smarter than us..
I do hope any visitors do nuke the whole middle east thoughComment
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And you're an expert, classically trained in the laws of physics? Fly's in the face of expansion? You need a little more base than some internet searches and some TV programs to get a clue of what you are talking about. No offense.
It has been MANY years since we have known that light can be bent, especially under the force of massive and even not so massive gravitational forces. As a matter of fact it was the very discovery of light bending under these circumstances that helped prove and solidify Einstein's theory of relativity which to that date was widely disregarded by mainstream science.
I imagine I could produce many theories you have never even heard of.
That being said, he too, is wrong. Our universe, through the discovery of CMBR (cosmic microwave background radiation), is basically a flattened oval. And yes it is expanding, as other galaxies seem to be racing away from us at ever increasing speeds. If you were able to follow a beam of light to the edge of the universe it would not just disappear and reappear somewhere else. It would begin to bend long before it reached the edge and in affect begin to loop back around the curve.
Hope that helps.
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Maybe they already visited and decided we are not worthy of saving?Comment
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nobody knows whats if anything out thereComment
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It's an interesting convo nonetheless.
If there is life out there, Bill Bryson said it best in "A Short History of Nearly Everything"
"Of course, it is possible that alien beings travel billions of miles to amuse themselves by planting crop circles in Wiltshire of frighting the daylights out of some poor guy in a pickup truck on a lonely road in Arizona (they must have teenagers, after all), but it does seem unlikely.
Still, statistically the probability that there are other thinking beings out there is good. Nobody knows how many stars there are in the Milky Way- estimates range from 100 billion or some to perhaps 400 billion -and the Milky Way is just one of 140 billion or so other galaxies, many of them even larger than ours. In the 1960's, a professor at Cornell named Frank Drake, excited by such whopping numbers, worked out a famous equation designed to calculate the chances of advanced life in the cosmos based on a series ob diminishing probabilities.
Under Drakes equation you divide the number of stars in a selected portion of the universe by the number of stars that are likely to have planetary systems; divide that by the number of planetary systems that could theoretically support life; divide that by the number on which life, having arisen, advances to a state of intelligence; and so on. At each such division, the number shrinks colossally- yet even with the most conservative inputs the number of advanced civilizations just in the Milky Way always works out to be somewhere in the millions.
What an interesting and exciting thought. We may be only one of millions of advanced civilizations. Unfortunately, space being spacious, the average distance between any two of these civilizations is reckoned to be at lease two hundred light-years, which is a great deal more than merely saying it makes it sound. It means for a start that even if these being know we are here and are somehow able to see us in their telescopes, they're watching light that left Earth two hundred years ago. So they're not seeing you and me. They're watching the French Revolution and Thomas Jefferson and people in silk stockings and powdered wigs- people who don't know what an atom is, or a gene, and who make their electricity by rubbing a rod of amber with a piece of fur and think that's quite a trick. Any message we receive from them is likely to begin "dear sire," and congratulate us on the handsomeness of our horses and our master of whale oil. Two hundred light-years is a distance so far beyond us as to be, well, just beyond us..."Comment
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They might find fossils of single cell life on Mars. The red planet, after all, once had oceans and an oxygen rich atmosphere but not for all that long (cosmically speaking, anyway).
Beyond our solar system I'd bet the house that there's life and plenty of it. Thing is, unless faster-than-light travel is possible (by no means a certainty), no one from this planet will ever see it and visa versa
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Even humans have showed they are very cruel to other humans they find inferior.
Not sure what your issues really are. No I am not classically trained in the laws of physics - whatever classically trained happens to mean anyways as you would be schooled in it or not. Have I taken physics classes, yes. Is one of my primary fascinations physics and quantum physics with primary interest in following the creation of the universe from its start to its eventual death - then extra interest in the potential of space travel. Yet your making assumptions about me without knowing nothing. I am not the type to just post random shit from god knows whoever made it on youtube etc.
Now yes the internet has several great areas if one is interested in these matters. Most are just long as papers posted at assorted .edu sites.
I have no problems with light bending, it does and will. Just like space bends or shall I say sinks around items of tremendous mass. Light will also bend when around black holes. I just had curiosity about what I first quoted as to what theory that was - obviously so that I could look it up and read it. (again thanks for not posting it and going on attack instead).
Here is the line I had issue with "if you take this theory it could basically mean that light or any other matter travelling out far enough in the universe, re-enters universe in a different corner." No issue with light bending. Just issue and interest in what theory has light or any other matter leaving the universe (guessing our known edge) - would re-enter the universe in another location (guessing he meant that since I am fairly certain he did not mean a literal "corner").Comment
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I said no offense and it was not meant to be derogatory. Classically trained means physical studies, in the lab, etc.
As for your issue about his statement I explained how he is wrong and what would happen to light when it begins reaching the edges of the universe. That is why I said I hope that helps. I don't have any links to give you just the information that I have. That stuff is pretty 101 stuff and I figured you could take what I gave you and find more if you wanted.
Not sure what your level of study is at but if you are interested I could recommend some good books to read.
In regards to your interest in the creation of the universe, check out a book called "Big Bang: The Origin of the Universe" by Simon Singh. It is a pretty comprehensive book on the history of astronomy and physics.Last edited by Darkland; 04-23-2009, 09:24 PM.
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