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  • jacklaidlaw
    Confirmed User
    • Sep 2006
    • 728

    #1

    Zango gone bust!!!

    Finally!!!!!!!!
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/21/zango/

    The following quote is from here this seems to be the most interesting part for the adult community
    http://blog.wouldbetheologian.com/
    Zango was unfairly charged with affiliate commission stealing. This is a complicated story, and I'll forgive anyone who doesn't want to read through the gory details. Back in 2004-2005, Commission Junction and LinkShare were two of Zango's largest advertisers, and we were one of their largest publishers. We displayed targeted ads promoting their advertisers' products, took a share of the proceeds when a user bought something, and pretty much everybody was happy. Initially, we sometimes used the advertiser's home page as a targeting mechanism, and I'll have to confess, this never struck me as particularly fair to the advertiser. (If the user is already sitting on eBay's site, why should we get a commission if the user happens to make their purchase through our ad rather than their original browser instance?) There are some instances when home page targeting is justified: if Alaska doesn't want Southwest's ad to show up when someone visits their website, they should pay for the privilege. (You'll note whose ad shows up when you google "Dell", and that doesn't happen for free.) But most of the time, I think the advertisers who complained about it had a reasonable point. However, as soon as LinkShare and CJ asked us to stop this practice, we did so. We even implemented a number of fairly complicated and expensive features to ensure that we wouldn't inadvertently display ads that would violate their terms of service. (In fact, Ben Edelman once badly misinterpreted a packet sniff to imply that we were being particularly nefarious, when what it actually showed was us trying desperately not to step on somebody's home page, and going through some admittedly strange gyrations to refrain from doing so.)

    But here's the frustrating part. Imagine the following scenario. A user with Zango's software visits a CJ publisher who is promoting some eBay products. That publisher sets a cookie on the user's machine that says, in effect, "If this user buys something from eBay, I get the commission." But then, before the user visits the eBay site, but after the first cookie was set, Zango happens to pop an ad that sets a different cookie, this one claiming the eBay commission for Zango. Given this scenario, I'm perfectly willing to grant that Zango should not get the commission, and the original publisher should.

    So the question is: how do you make sure that the first publisher gets it, and Zango doesn't? For a variety of reasons, this was a difficult scenario to prevent from Zango's side. (Among other things, how are we to know that the site in question belongs to a CJ affiliate?) This is a very simple problem to prevent, however, if you are Commission Junction or LinkShare. Your script should just place different cookies for each publisher, and you should give the commission to the owner of the cookie with the earliest timestamp rather than the latest. But for reasons that I don't understand, neither CJ nor LinkShare would agree to make this simple change: and eventually, under pressure from their other publishers, they stopped doing business with us altogether, to nobody's benefit.

    I should note that this is made a little more complicated by the fact that some of the folks who advertised through Zango did in fact engage in nefarious cookie stuffing and commission stealing. The way that Zango's advertising system worked, an advertiser could make the link they insert do pretty much anything allowed by the browser sandbox. And some of our advertisers did engage in commission stealing. It was never possible to catch every instance of this, but we did our darned best, and implemented a number of processes, systems and features to catch folks who were trying to do so. In the end, the extent of such third-party advertiser fraud was minimal.

    There's been a lot written about Zango "cookie stuffing", but I should say very clearly: Zango does not stuff cookies, has no interest in stealing somebody else's commission, and did everything it could to prevent this from happening. Yes, Zango did display targeted ads, and would have liked to display ads from affiliate networks: but those ads introduced an ambiguity into the process which the affiliate networks refused to resolve. The net result was that Zango was shut out from what once had been, and should have remained, a mutually beneficial and profitable advertising channel.

  • Intrinsic
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2008
    • 1589

    #2
    major news!

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    • Cyber Fucker
      Hmm
      • Sep 2005
      • 12642

      #3
      Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.

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      • Carmine Raguso
        So Fucking Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 2158

        #4
        SuckOnThis will blame it on the Bush administration. Who cares... they were a shady company, the owners made millions and will re-open shop tomorrow as pornobucksdude.com - play the bro-card and then be raking it in again.

        Get a grip.

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        • Manowar
          jellyfish  
          • Dec 2003
          • 71528

          #5
          cookie stuffing, legendary

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          • CyberHustler
            Masterbaiter
            • Feb 2006
            • 28791

            #6
            Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:

            2009-04-21
            ZangoCash Update

            On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc, including ZangoCash, were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

            What does this mean for ZangoCash? BUSINESS AS USUAL. You make installs, we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Same rates, same dates. Look for more tools and content in the future.

            Thank you for your patience during this transition, we look forward to a continued prosperous partnership with you.

            The ZangoCash Team
            “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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            • Barefootsies
              Choice is an Illusion
              • Feb 2005
              • 42635

              #7
              Interesting news. Good read.
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              • StuartD
                Sofa King Band
                • Jul 2002
                • 29903

                #8
                zan-gone!
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                • halfpint
                  GFY's Halfpint
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 15223

                  #9
                  Hi dude how you doing havent heard from you in ages, Hit me up on ICQ sometime
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                  • cybermike
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 4123

                    #10
                    so are my sales suppose to go back up now? :O
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                    • Furious_Male
                      Doing the grind since 99
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 16884

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CyberHustler
                      Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:
                      Yes I saw one of the Zango reps post the same info on another board.

                      On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

                      As far as ZangoCash is concerned: BUSINESS AS USUAL, you make installs we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Look for more tools and content in the future.

                      Payouts: same rates, same dates, never late. Thank you for your patience during this transition.
                      It looks like they are shifting some things around.
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                      • AtlantisCash
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 3179

                        #12
                        promote pinball, be rich...
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                        • Denny
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 17422

                          #13
                          good news

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                          • CyberHustler
                            Masterbaiter
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 28791

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Denny
                            good news
                            I'd fuck that girl in your avatar.
                            “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                            • Manowar
                              jellyfish  
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 71528

                              #15
                              pinballlll

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                              • USUALENT
                                Confirmed User
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1888

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Furious_Male

                                It looks like they are shifting some things around.
                                yep that what I get from reading it



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                                • Jakez
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 5656

                                  #17
                                  So now it can be ironic when your balls feel like they've been wacked with sticks.
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                                  • Elixir
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                                    • May 2006
                                    • 12870

                                    #18
                                    AMAZING news !!!!
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                                    • Diomed
                                      Converting like it's 1999
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 6167

                                      #19
                                      I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread
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                                      • PornMD
                                        Mainstream Businessman
                                        • Jan 2007
                                        • 9291

                                        #20
                                        So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board?

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                                        • grumpy
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 9870

                                          #21
                                          why dont we write a zango hicker? enough good programmers here. I will volunteer.
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                                          • the.drunk
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Apr 2009
                                            • 712

                                            #22
                                            goodbye zango


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                                            • PornMD
                                              Mainstream Businessman
                                              • Jan 2007
                                              • 9291

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Diomed
                                              I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread
                                              LOL beat me by a minute!
                                              Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

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                                              • Ozarkz
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jan 2009
                                                • 2377

                                                #24
                                                That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango.

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                                                • just a punk
                                                  So fuckin' bored
                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                  • 32385

                                                  #25
                                                  Good news and fuck zango!
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                                                  • stickyfingerz
                                                    Doin fine
                                                    • Oct 2005
                                                    • 24984

                                                    #26
                                                    That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol

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                                                    • crockett
                                                      in a van by the river
                                                      • May 2003
                                                      • 76818

                                                      #27
                                                      lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..
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                                                      • FreeHugeMovies
                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                        • Dec 2001
                                                        • 14142

                                                        #28
                                                        Zango 4 Life

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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #29
                                                          btw.. I hope to hell that some of the GFY users here whom promoted them got shafted and don't get paid. Anyone whom promoted that shit deserves to get ripped..
                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                          • notime
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 8027

                                                            #30
                                                            oh well, I'll drink to that. Cheers!

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                                                            • Robocrop
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Aug 2008
                                                              • 2785

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..
                                                              Yea and the verdict really affected TPB ;)

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                                                              • cykoe6
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2005
                                                                • 4499

                                                                #32
                                                                Fuck Zango. Good riddance.
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                                                                • polish_aristocrat
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                  • 40377

                                                                  #33
                                                                  The impact of Zango has been exaggerated IMO.
                                                                  I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                  • kowalsky
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Oct 2003
                                                                    • 2494

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hasta la vista Zango!
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                                                                    • brassmonkey
                                                                      Pay It Forward
                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                      • 77390

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by cykoe6
                                                                      Fuck Zango. Good riddance.
                                                                      what he said
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                                                                      • Nookster
                                                                        Confirmed IT Professional
                                                                        • Nov 2005
                                                                        • 3744

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Accessory is just as bad as primary. Good riddens.
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                                                                        • EuroRevenueUSA
                                                                          Registered User
                                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                                          • 91

                                                                          #37
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                                                                          • mineistaken
                                                                            See signature :)
                                                                            • Apr 2007
                                                                            • 29656

                                                                            #38
                                                                            why you salute it if those fucktards are continue to be alive and install their shitware as usual?
                                                                            ref post #6

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                                                                            • Ozarkz
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Jan 2009
                                                                              • 2377

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by stickyfingerz
                                                                              That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol
                                                                              That's some good trolling he was really into it.

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                                                                              • STAROTICA
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                • 1079

                                                                                #40
                                                                                and another one bites the dust....

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                                                                                • DWB
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                  • 31779

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by PornMD
                                                                                  So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board?

                                                                                  Did you not get a chance to demo that? Un-Fucking-Real!!! We tried for two days to record the stream, even put a video camera in front of the computer and all that recorded was scan lines. I hate to say it but all of you who laughed at him are total dipshits. I've never seen anything like it.

                                                                                  BTW... he stopped working for Zango like a year ago back when they downsized. He posted about that way back when. Again, you guys are dipshits. This is a new company he is working for now but he foolishly kept his old username. I advised him of a name change but he said this board wasn't that important to their business and they only wanted the top players. Cliff notes, little guys with no money or no drive to be in the industry long term, they could give a shit about. I can't blame them really.

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                                                                                  • DWB
                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                    • 31779

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                                    That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango.
                                                                                    A while ago.

                                                                                    http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=836032

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                                                                                    • Ozarkz
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Jan 2009
                                                                                      • 2377

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy
                                                                                      Ahh. I remember seeing that.

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                                                                                      • TheSenator
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                                        • 13330

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        http://www.zango.com

                                                                                        Still up and running.
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                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32189

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by bbwebmaster
                                                                                          Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.
                                                                                          True. It's gotten way way more advanced than that and more viral. Social media sites are very vulnerable "inoculation" grounds for such crap

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                                                                                          • missipissi
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                                                            • 205

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            This is the EXACT same scenario these guys pulled when Hotbar got busted and 180 Solutions "bought their assets" and rebranded them as Zango.

                                                                                            Sound familiar?

                                                                                            They settled soon after for a million or three to the FTC. Swept it under the rug. BUSINESS AS USUAL.

                                                                                            Things don't change. Just the business names do.
                                                                                            Last edited by missipissi; 04-21-2009, 08:08 PM.

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                                                                                            • LoveSandra
                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                              • Aug 2008
                                                                                              • 10551

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              That`s great.
                                                                                              Fuck Zango.

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                                                                                              • MrCodey

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Cyanara, no tears here

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                                                                                                • Sexyblogger
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Oct 2008
                                                                                                  • 4041

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  pour Zango
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                                                                                                  • DWB
                                                                                                    Registered User
                                                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                                                    • 31779

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                                                    Ahh. I remember seeing that.
                                                                                                    Yea, he's been gone for a while but not very bright to keep the Zango username.

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