Just a mini rant of running 10+ wordpress sites

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • lakerslive
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2012
    • 929

    #1

    Just a mini rant of running 10+ wordpress sites

    It sucks when you have to apply new shit, changes, maintenance to all 10+ sites across your network.

    How you guys manage your wordpress sites?
    I use excel
  • Sly
    Let's do some business!
    • Sep 2004
    • 31377

    #2
    What kind of changes?

    You are utilizing automatic updates, I hope, to make things just a little bit easier.
    Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

    Windows VPS now available
    Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
    Click here for more details.

    Comment

    • AzteK
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2001
      • 3451

      #3
      10+ should be a super manageable number - I touch each site to make sure things are running fine...yea I use a gdoc

      Comment

      • lakerslive
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2012
        • 929

        #4
        google doc?

        why not excel? soo efficient..u can color code ,etc.. or is google word/doc better?

        Comment

        • Rochard
          Jägermeister Test Pilot
          • Dec 2001
          • 75733

          #5
          Why not just run all of the sites off of the same Wordpress install?
          Herschel Savage
          Brooklyn, NY

          Comment

          • Miguel T
            ♦ Web Developer ♦
            • May 2005
            • 12470

            #6
            I use this: https://wordpress.org/plugins/worker/

            Full Stack Webdeveloper: HTML5/CSS3, jQuery, AJAX, ElevatedX, NATS, MechBunny, Wordpress

            Comment

            • lakerslive
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2012
              • 929

              #7
              yeah, problem is, you discover a small error or something to make your site better, or a change to one of the icons or whatever , you have to do it 10x! i guess its more a task thing.

              But yeah, cool wp site management tool besides for completing tasks but for monitoring this is good

              Comment

              • magneto664
                God Bless You
                • Aug 2014
                • 1470

                #8
                Right now i manage over 60+ wp sites by : https://mainwp.com/
                magneto664 📧 gmail.com
                Cams.Zone 💘 Best CDN for Adult Content
                My Fav: 👍 Chaturbate 👍 Stripchat 👍 AdultFriendFinder

                Comment

                • tfto
                  Retired and loving life.
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 2118

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Miguel T
                  I also use this to manage all of my WP sites. It makes life so much easier!

                  Comment

                  • PornDiscounts-V
                    Confirmed User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 5744

                    #10
                    WP CLI makes it easy
                    Blog Posts - Contextual Links - Hardlinks on 600+ Blog Network
                    * Handwritten * 180 C Class IPs * Permanent! * Many Niches! * Bulk Discounts! GFYPosts /at/ J2Media.net

                    Comment

                    • GLMBV
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 750

                      #11
                      You can use Infinite WP for backups, updates addons and much more.

                      Comment

                      • borg2of5
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 25

                        #12
                        I dropped all frameworks and PHP in general years ago. Personally, I prefer to have my entire "adult business" in one .NET Core solution with one project per website so that I can easily share code and functionalities between them.

                        It comes with a number of pros:

                        - You don't need to react to someone else's update cycle
                        - You don't need PHP on your server, your websites are single binaries and systemd services
                        - If you write a function for one website and it's a clean service, you can just include it in your other websites, too (in my case feeds, search functions, widgets etc)
                        - When you fix vulnerabilities and update your software, you decide how much backwards compatibility you break. And it won't break on production because it's not PHP. It won't even compile if it's broken so you notice before deploying

                        Also I aim to have a unit test for every edge case.

                        I suggest everyone who has development skills to just drop PHP, drop wordpress, build your software and make it right. There is no need to use an ancient, broken, slow-performing and unsafe scripting language like PHP in 2018. I understand that we didn't have many choices a decade ago but nowadays it's different.

                        Invest the time, create a good product and maintain it. There's a reason why none of the most popular adult websites are wordpress.
                        Software Engineer with 12 years of professional experience
                        C++ / Microsoft .NET / SQL / Web Development

                        ICQ: 10990009

                        Comment

                        • CurrentlySober
                          Too lazy to wipe my ass
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 38944

                          #13
                          Originally posted by lakerslive
                          It sucks when you have to apply new shit...
                          Personally, I'd call that a bonus...


                          👁️ 👍️ 💩

                          Comment

                          • The Porn Nerd
                            Living The Dream
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19780

                            #14
                            Originally posted by borg2of5

                            I suggest everyone who has development skills to just drop PHP, drop wordpress, build your software and make it right. There is no need to use an ancient, broken, slow-performing and unsafe scripting language like PHP in 2018. I understand that we didn't have many choices a decade ago but nowadays it's different.

                            Invest the time, create a good product and maintain it. There's a reason why none of the most popular adult websites are wordpress.
                            That's fine for mega companies but for one-man shows (or smaller companies) WP sites can be a great source of traffic. In fact, most affiliates use WP so doing all the codework for them would not be worthwhile I think.

                            It also depends on what kind of site we are talking, how much traffic, bandwidth drain, etc. There are reasons why some 'ancient' languages like PHP or WP (or HTML for that matter) do not die.
                            My Affiliate Programs:
                            Porn Nerd Cash | Porn Showcase | Aggressive Gold

                            Over 90 paysites to promote!
                            Now on Teams: peabodymedia

                            Comment

                            • crockett
                              in a van by the river
                              • May 2003
                              • 76818

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lakerslive
                              It sucks when you have to apply new shit, changes, maintenance to all 10+ sites across your network.

                              How you guys manage your wordpress sites?
                              I use excel
                              Try 50 plus..
                              In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

                              Comment

                              • borg2of5
                                Registered User
                                • Jun 2018
                                • 25

                                #16
                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                That's fine for mega companies
                                We are 3 developers, not a mega company. In the end, it's much less effort than people imagine because the time you don't spend dealing with vulnerabilities and update problems is the time you spend developing your own instead.

                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                It also depends on what kind of site we are talking, how much traffic, bandwidth drain, etc. There are reasons why some 'ancient' languages like PHP or WP (or HTML for that matter) do not die.
                                The reason is mostly historical because of the ease of access and the lack of alternatives. For more than a decade, there wasn't much else besides PHP, obtainable on a shared hosting offer. Other techniques were harder to access because they meant requiring either an initial money investment or the danger of maintaining your own server. Today, with AWS, Azure and what-not, it's not like that anymore.

                                Our search engine has 15 000 000 videos. 96 % of search queries are served below 0.4 seconds and it's hosted on a single VPS with 4 cores and 8 GB ram. Most things are written from scratch aside from some very common software. We are 3 developers maintaining and extending this. We are currently working on automatic typo-correction without breaking the 0.4 second rule. Our biggest bottle-neck right now is the loading time of thumbnails.

                                Imagining we did this in PHP instead, our initial development time would have been lower (it took us 3 months to get the minimum-version online, with PHP maybe just one month?) but the server costs would have been HUGE now (or our website would be slow af and suck).

                                I'm new in the adult business. Maybe my mindset is just wrong. But we are trying to build a great new product. Building something amazing and new, is just not possible on Wordpress, in my opinion

                                Feel free to keep this post and laugh at me when I start making Wordpress websites myself in a few years after failing and failing. Who knows.
                                Software Engineer with 12 years of professional experience
                                C++ / Microsoft .NET / SQL / Web Development

                                ICQ: 10990009

                                Comment

                                • Sly
                                  Let's do some business!
                                  • Sep 2004
                                  • 31377

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by borg2of5
                                  We are 3 developers, not a mega company. In the end, it's much less effort than people imagine because the time you don't spend dealing with vulnerabilities and update problems is the time you spend developing your own instead.



                                  The reason is mostly historical because of the ease of access and the lack of alternatives. For more than a decade, there wasn't much else besides PHP, obtainable on a shared hosting offer. Other techniques were harder to access because they meant requiring either an initial money investment or the danger of maintaining your own server. Today, with AWS, Azure and what-not, it's not like that anymore.

                                  Our search engine has 15 000 000 videos. 96 % of search queries are served below 0.4 seconds and it's hosted on a single VPS with 4 cores and 8 GB ram. Most things are written from scratch aside from some very common software. We are 3 developers maintaining and extending this. We are currently working on automatic typo-correction without breaking the 0.4 second rule. Our biggest bottle-neck right now is the loading time of thumbnails.

                                  Imagining we did this in PHP instead, our initial development time would have been lower (it took us 3 months to get the minimum-version online, with PHP maybe just one month?) but the server costs would have been HUGE now (or our website would be slow af and suck).

                                  I'm new in the adult business. Maybe my mindset is just wrong. But we are trying to build a great new product. Building something amazing and new, is just not possible on Wordpress, in my opinion

                                  Feel free to keep this post and laugh at me when I start making Wordpress websites myself in a few years after failing and failing. Who knows.
                                  Great post. I love your attitude.

                                  Building great products takes time. No Instant Gratification allowed.
                                  Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

                                  Windows VPS now available
                                  Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc.
                                  Click here for more details.

                                  Comment

                                  • lakerslive
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2012
                                    • 929

                                    #18
                                    Wordpress is great for startup / validating ideas

                                    Comment

                                    • HomerSimpson
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Sep 2005
                                      • 13826

                                      #19
                                      https://infinitewp.com/ - free and works great... I've been using it for years now...
                                      Make a bank with Chaturbate - the best selling webcam program
                                      Ads that can't be block with AdBlockers !!! /// Best paying popup program (Bitcoin payouts) !!!

                                      PHP, MySql, Smarty, CodeIgniter, Laravel, WordPress, NATS... fixing stuff, server migrations & optimizations... My ICQ: 27429884 | Email:

                                      Comment

                                      • PornDiscounts-V
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 5744

                                        #20
                                        WP-CLI and make your own bash scripts. Easy as pi.
                                        Blog Posts - Contextual Links - Hardlinks on 600+ Blog Network
                                        * Handwritten * 180 C Class IPs * Permanent! * Many Niches! * Bulk Discounts! GFYPosts /at/ J2Media.net

                                        Comment

                                        • Denny
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Feb 2005
                                          • 17400

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HomerSimpson
                                          https://infinitewp.com/ - free and works great... I've been using it for years now...
                                          Does it backup whole sites including DBs, files/media...?

                                          Comment

                                          • HairyChick
                                            Slowly dying
                                            • Sep 2012
                                            • 3091

                                            #22
                                            I ran about forty sites on WordPress. Every site was manually updated by me. Too many new versions of WP and/or plugins and themes have issues, leaving you vulnerable. I’d wait ten days to be sure it was okay, then update everything. It took time as I’d do an extra backup first in case I had to downgrade. Plugins don’t always play nice with older themes or versions.

                                            It took time but was worth it. If you upgrade and something breaks, you try to figure out why, then what caused it, then find the previous version, etc. Consider it weekly maintenance after you do a backup. If too much breaks, restore saves you many headaches.

                                            I don’t install plugins or themes via Wordpress. FTP is better IMHO because you’ll have a copy of the original on your machine. If a vulnerability is discovered down the line, waiting for the fix can be hell. It takes a few minutes and then just move that program original to flash drive. Just in case ......
                                            *****************************************
                                            Anti-Semites have Small Penis Syndrome. The only known treatment is electroshock therapy combined with cerebellum removal. Fortunately, it’s a tiny procedure.
                                            *****************************************

                                            Comment

                                            • lakerslive
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2012
                                              • 929

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PamWinterReturns
                                              I ran about forty sites on WordPress. Every site was manually updated by me. Too many new versions of WP and/or plugins and themes have issues, leaving you vulnerable. I’d wait ten days to be sure it was okay, then update everything. It took time as I’d do an extra backup first in case I had to downgrade. Plugins don’t always play nice with older themes or versions.

                                              It took time but was worth it. If you upgrade and something breaks, you try to figure out why, then what caused it, then find the previous version, etc. Consider it weekly maintenance after you do a backup. If too much breaks, restore saves you many headaches.

                                              I don’t install plugins or themes via Wordpress. FTP is better IMHO because you’ll have a copy of the original on your machine. If a vulnerability is discovered down the line, waiting for the fix can be hell. It takes a few minutes and then just move that program original to flash drive. Just in case ......
                                              i agree. U have to have it saved on your machine locally.. like organized by date with notes and shiet.

                                              Then i have a spreadsheet via google of list to get a clear clear list of todo list, starting a new site checklist, bugs, whether i cleaned up the site of broken videos, broken pages, xml sitemaps have been submitted, plugins done, every plug installed, etc etc... It's very visual color coded tables green = good, red = needs attention, etc etc.

                                              Comment

                                              • lakerslive
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2012
                                                • 929

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by borg2of5
                                                We are 3 developers, not a mega company. In the end, it's much less effort than people imagine because the time you don't spend dealing with vulnerabilities and update problems is the time you spend developing your own instead.



                                                The reason is mostly historical because of the ease of access and the lack of alternatives. For more than a decade, there wasn't much else besides PHP, obtainable on a shared hosting offer. Other techniques were harder to access because they meant requiring either an initial money investment or the danger of maintaining your own server. Today, with AWS, Azure and what-not, it's not like that anymore.

                                                Our search engine has 15 000 000 videos. 96 % of search queries are served below 0.4 seconds and it's hosted on a single VPS with 4 cores and 8 GB ram. Most things are written from scratch aside from some very common software. We are 3 developers maintaining and extending this. We are currently working on automatic typo-correction without breaking the 0.4 second rule. Our biggest bottle-neck right now is the loading time of thumbnails.

                                                Imagining we did this in PHP instead, our initial development time would have been lower (it took us 3 months to get the minimum-version online, with PHP maybe just one month?) but the server costs would have been HUGE now (or our website would be slow af and suck).

                                                I'm new in the adult business. Maybe my mindset is just wrong. But we are trying to build a great new product. Building something amazing and new, is just not possible on Wordpress, in my opinion

                                                Feel free to keep this post and laugh at me when I start making Wordpress websites myself in a few years after failing and failing. Who knows.

                                                1. are you doing niche? or general?
                                                2. So your current software is wordpress?

                                                Comment

                                                Working...