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  • porndotnet
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2008
    • 317

    #151
    Originally posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash
    No doubt that is a great post and has caused me to laugh out loud every time I see it. I liked the movie, and I liked the post; very funny and funny is good! Yeah, I probably was a little frustrated when I put out that post, and I had no idea it would go this long.

    I'm glad it did for two reasons: 1) it allowed us to eventually get to a meaningful discussion regarding what is and is not important to this space, and 2) it has given me at least 7 open laughs at that post, (and at myself) over the last two days.

    Funny is good Porndotnet no doubt about it!

    NEVER go full retard!
    "Takes Bow.."

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    • ~RB
      Registered User
      • Feb 2008
      • 29

      #152
      I'll tell you what, some people have clearly gone full retard when it comes to their business...The naivete is amazing...Not for nuthin', I'm just sayin'...

      I'll continue to follow this post closely

      RB

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      • sortie
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2007
        • 7771

        #153
        Originally posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash
        Not one reply.

        You gotta be fuckin' kidding me. In 24 hours not one reply.

        I watch affiliates posting on this board that they are not making enough money. I watch folks on this board complaining that this program or that program suck, they are lowering payouts, they don't return my calls etc. And yet, not one reply to an honest request to make a deal, with an Industry standard like Max Cash.

        So every affiliate out there is either 1) already working with Max Cash and getting paid exactly what they want to get paid or, 2) completely happy where they are with every sponsor program they work with. 3) Too stupid to realize a good thing when they see it. 4) Believing that the amount of posts on this board equates to position in the Industry.

        I choose #3.

        Let me say however as a 12 year member of this community: That's awesome! It actually makes me genuinely happy to know that each member of the affiliate community is completely content where they are, what they are making, and how large their marketshare is. Next to Disney land this must be the happiest fucking place on earth.

        I haven't posted on this board very often in the time I have been in this space because I have said that it is more about "nice tits" and "you suck" instead of actual business.

        I sat on a panel in Phoenix with a title that paraphrasing equated to: "is the affiliate model dead?" If you are an affiliate that should scare the hell out of you. Keep your eye out for panels like this at shows coming up, because if they continue the model will be dead. But you don't have to worry about adapting, don't worry about being creative or clever, or hustling, cause there are plenty of jobs out there right now where you can work your own hours from where ever you want and make 5 figures a month on-line. Easy.

        I choose #3.

        Here is a solid program whose has a reputation for always paying webmasters, in lean times and in times of plenty, who has paid webmasters more money than any other program in our space, genuinly seeking out affiliates to make individual deals with them; and not one fucking inquiry.

        It is not because Max Cash is not a 14 year program with a great history.

        It is not because we are not willing to pay out based on what you send.

        It is not because we are converting better during this "downturn" than we have in years.

        No, I choose #3. You may honestly be too stupid to realize a good thing when you see it. By the way a bit of good news: it is a proven fact, that bitching about other programs and their payouts and bitchin about how bad the economy is and bitching that you are not getting paid what you deserve is, in fact, a proven way to increase your income. You should be proud of your efforts; you are on your way.

        Good on ya. Best of luck in your new endeavours.

        Go fuck yourself.

        Johnny V.
        [email protected]
        Thanks for posting the link that I should reply to.

        Thanks.

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        • Peaches
          Old broad
          • Oct 2002
          • 13933

          #154
          Originally posted by baddog
          With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
          ~RB
          Registered User

          Join Date: Feb 2008
          You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz?

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          • JohnnyV_MaxCash
            Registered User
            • Mar 2009
            • 55

            #155
            Originally posted by baddog
            With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
            Naw your right.

            I have never spent any time on the boards. I started in 1997 processing credit cards and have had and still have several clients as a consultant. You can probably see by my rant the exact reason why I don't post that often. I am blunt. I say what's on my mind, and I usually say it with enthuasium.

            I repeat, any webmaster offended...I'm sorry. I like this space, I've been here a long time, and my interest is to see it thrive and grow. I carry that sentiment around on my sleeve.

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            • »Rob Content«
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2006
              • 4348

              #156
              Originally posted by baddog
              With all due respect [not sure if any is actually due], but most 12 year members don't have a signup date that is 2.5 weeks ago.
              Maybe some people spent the last 8 years working hard instead of trying to establish 70+ k threads on a message board?

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              • baddog
                So Fucking Banned
                • Apr 2001
                • 107089

                #157
                Originally posted by Peaches
                You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz?
                Being a member of the community and being in the biz are not necessarily the same . . . as shown above.

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                • J$tyle$
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Apr 2003
                  • 11500

                  #158
                  Originally posted by baddog
                  Being a member of the community and being in the biz are not necessarily the same . . . as shown above.
                  Semantics ... he was talking about the adult community

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                  • ~RB
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 29

                    #159
                    Originally posted by Peaches
                    You sure you wanna stick with the thought process that a sign up date at GFY has any reference to how long someone's been in the biz?
                    Peaches, ya old broad...What's shakin'?

                    Thought this was the YNOT board circa 1997...Carry on.

                    RB

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                    • baddog
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2001
                      • 107089

                      #160
                      Originally posted by J$tyle$
                      Semantics ... he was talking about the adult community
                      Guess I was confused since he seemed to be slamming the GFY community for not responding to a thread of his.

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                      • polish_aristocrat
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 40377

                        #161
                        Originally posted by »Rob Content«
                        Maybe some people spent the last 8 years working hard instead of trying to establish 70+ k threads on a message board?
                        damn, had to double check if baddog is really at 70k already...
                        I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                        • RobertD
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 1149

                          #162
                          Join date and post count mean diddly.

                          .
                          Sexy Latinas

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                          • J$tyle$
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 11500

                            #163
                            Originally posted by baddog
                            Guess I was confused
                            That does happen with age sometimes, Lloyd

                            You missed a good one at the Improv last night, btw

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                            • Sly
                              Let's do some business!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 31379

                              #164
                              Originally posted by J$tyle$
                              Semantics ... he was talking about the adult community
                              Oh?

                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=73

                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...3&postcount=78
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                              • commonsense
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 1790

                                #165
                                Originally posted by baddog
                                Guess I was confused since he seemed to be slamming the GFY community for not responding to a thread of his.
                                Valid point.

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                                • J$tyle$
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 11500

                                  #166
                                  Are you questioning the $500 million + in payouts or pointing out that Johnny's mentioning the poster has a GFY join date of Feb 2009 when Johnny's join date is March 2009?

                                  1 - is true
                                  2 - is actually funny

                                  or did i entirely miss the point?

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                                  • Sly
                                    Let's do some business!
                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 31379

                                    #167
                                    Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                    Are you questioning the $500 million + in payouts or pointing out that Johnny's mentioning the poster has a GFY join date of Feb 2009 when Johnny's join date is March 2009?

                                    1 - is true
                                    2 - is actually funny

                                    or did i entirely miss the point?
                                    I believe #1. And yes, I thought #2 was funny as well.

                                    Bash someone for a join date one month older than yours... probably going to come back to you. ;-)
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                                    • PersianKitty
                                      Meow Media Inc.
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 7785

                                      #168
                                      Originally posted by ~RB
                                      Peaches, ya old broad...What's shakin'?

                                      Thought this was the YNOT board circa 1997...Carry on.

                                      RB
                                      It's not?

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                                      • baddog
                                        So Fucking Banned
                                        • Apr 2001
                                        • 107089

                                        #169
                                        Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                        That does happen with age sometimes, Lloyd
                                        Really? How old is he?

                                        You missed a good one at the Improv last night, btw
                                        Am in Indiana, would have been there otherwise.

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                                        • wasteland
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Jan 2002
                                          • 697

                                          #170
                                          Originally posted by ~RB
                                          Peaches, ya old broad...What's shakin'?

                                          Thought this was the YNOT board circa 1997...Carry on.

                                          RB
                                          Good one, RB. I was having the same thought. LOL

                                          OMG, RB! I have more GFY posts that you do! Oh, the irony of it all, eh? hehe

                                          Colin
                                          Last edited by wasteland; 04-10-2009, 12:50 PM. Reason: added info
                                          Colin Rowntree
                                          Skype: rowntree2007
                                          Our Affiliate Program: http://www.spicecash.com

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                                          • Sarah_Jayne
                                            Now with more Jayne
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 40077

                                            #171
                                            Originally posted by candyflip
                                            I sometimes think you're me without the weiner.
                                            I know. If I didn't shave my legs my husband would get all confused.

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                                            • Sarah_Jayne
                                              Now with more Jayne
                                              • Dec 2002
                                              • 40077

                                              #172
                                              Originally posted by ~RB
                                              Peaches, ya old broad...What's shakin'?

                                              Thought this was the YNOT board circa 1997...Carry on.

                                              RB
                                              Me and Peaches are sisters from different parents..too much in common.

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                                              • wasteland
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jan 2002
                                                • 697

                                                #173
                                                Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                                                Me and Peaches are sisters from different parents..too much in common.
                                                "Me and Peaches...."?
                                                Grammar, dear. Grammar, dear.

                                                LOL
                                                Colin
                                                Colin Rowntree
                                                Skype: rowntree2007
                                                Our Affiliate Program: http://www.spicecash.com

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                                                • Holly Lez!
                                                  She's back
                                                  • Oct 2003
                                                  • 3480

                                                  #174
                                                  Some new or atleast redesigned gay sites would get my attention! My clients surfers want the best in gay. I have offered to help you guys fix the gay sites before!
                                                  [email protected]
                                                  Skype: hollyruprecht

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                                                  • Sarah_Jayne
                                                    Now with more Jayne
                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                    • 40077

                                                    #175
                                                    Originally posted by wasteland
                                                    "Me and Peaches...."?
                                                    Grammar, dear. Grammar, dear.

                                                    LOL
                                                    Colin
                                                    I really deserved that.

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                                                    • Sarah_Jayne
                                                      Now with more Jayne
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 40077

                                                      #176
                                                      Originally posted by Holly Lez!
                                                      Some new or atleast redesigned gay sites would get my attention! My clients surfers want the best in gay. I have offered to help you guys fix the gay sites before!
                                                      A number of them got face lifts not too far back. Hit me up on email at [email protected] or on icq at 232834291 (or anybody else here) and we can talk about getting you what you need.

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                                                      • Holly Lez!
                                                        She's back
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 3480

                                                        #177
                                                        Originally posted by Sarah_MaxCash
                                                        A number of them got face lifts not too far back. Hit me up on email at [email protected] or on icq at 232834291 (or anybody else here) and we can talk about getting you what you need.
                                                        No offense to you or J but ummm redesigning the homepage does not make the content good! And why would any gay program promote you since you never attend any of our events since you let Dzila go... I have never seen one MaxCash person since! You need new content and you need to make a presence! And as always hit me up if you need help or advice I think I have a pretty good ear as to what the gay webmasters want
                                                        [email protected]
                                                        Skype: hollyruprecht

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                                                        • JohnnyV_MaxCash
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Mar 2009
                                                          • 55

                                                          #178
                                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                                          Being a member of the community and being in the biz are not necessarily the same . . . as shown above.
                                                          I'm both:

                                                          A member of the community because I assist this space, it's people and the companies that I represent , (and sometimes companies that I do not) to grow and thrive. A member of the business because this is where I make a living and have for a long time. I will happily put my knowledge of billing, or traffic up against anyone's baddog yours included.

                                                          The affiliate model I am learning about. Give me the time it will take me to make 100 posts, and I will happily debate you regarding the affiliate model as well. What I really would rather not do is trade posts about who has more posts, who has been on the boards more etc. Potentially a gigantic waste of time. (read: I'm too old for that shit).

                                                          Thoughtful conversation---yeah.

                                                          Whose post count is higher--no thanks.

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                                                          • HorseShit
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 17513

                                                            #179
                                                            This turned into:

                                                            old guy vs. old guy

                                                            THE BEST OF GFY FOLKS

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                                                            • baddog
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • Apr 2001
                                                              • 107089

                                                              #180
                                                              Originally posted by JohnnyV_MaxCash
                                                              I'm both:

                                                              A member of the community because I assist this space, it's people and the companies that I represent , (and sometimes companies that I do not) to grow and thrive. A member of the business because this is where I make a living and have for a long time. I will happily put my knowledge of billing, or traffic up against anyone's baddog yours included.

                                                              The affiliate model I am learning about. Give me the time it will take me to make 100 posts, and I will happily debate you regarding the affiliate model as well. What I really would rather not do is trade posts about who has more posts, who has been on the boards more etc. Potentially a gigantic waste of time. (read: I'm too old for that shit).

                                                              Thoughtful conversation---yeah.

                                                              Whose post count is higher--no thanks.
                                                              The "community" I was referring to, for at least the second time, is GFY. I have not said shit about post counts, and I am always among the first to point out that a low post count does not mean they have not been a member for many years.

                                                              You on the other hand have neither. That is ALL I was saying.

                                                              Apparently, you expected us to know that when said you were a 12 year member of this community, you did not really mean this [GFY} community.

                                                              It will probably be easier to just ignore you than to try and decipher what you mean and who you are trying to insult.

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                                                              • spacedog
                                                                Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                • Nov 2001
                                                                • 14149

                                                                #181
                                                                Yeah, real fucking solid.. Your TOS is nothing but fucking bullshit! Your company accepts traffic from fucking thieves and does NOTHING about it when someone complains to you about trademark and copyright infringement.. Shove it up your ass..

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                                                                • munki
                                                                  Do Fun Shit.
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 13393

                                                                  #182
                                                                  Originally posted by porndotnet
                                                                  "never go full retard"...

                                                                  I have the simplest tastes. I am always satisfied with the best.” -Oscar Wilde

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                                                                  • Grapesoda
                                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                                    • 46234

                                                                    #183
                                                                    Originally posted by SBR Richard
                                                                    i had no idea i was too stupid to check you guys out?
                                                                    well fuck! aint that bitch?

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                                                                    • commonsense
                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                      • 1790

                                                                      #184
                                                                      I'm sure this gem of a thread has done a smashing job bolstering interest in Maxcash's 1000 year old sites

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                                                                      • NinjaSteve
                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 11089

                                                                        #185
                                                                        Originally posted by porndotnet
                                                                        "never go full retard"...
                                                                        LOL!
                                                                        ...

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                                                                        • NinjaSteve
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                          • 11089

                                                                          #186
                                                                          .............
                                                                          Last edited by NinjaSteve; 04-11-2009, 09:42 PM.
                                                                          ...

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                                                                          • Jakez
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Jan 2004
                                                                            • 5656

                                                                            #187
                                                                            Originally posted by mikeyddddd


                                                                            A retarded monkey could contribute more to a thought than you. Do you ever actually say anything or just always waste your time making unfunny animated gifs hoping someone will post "lol"?
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                                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 40377

                                                                              #188
                                                                              Originally posted by Jakez
                                                                              A retarded monkey could contribute more to a thought than you. Do you ever actually say anything or just always waste your time making unfunny animated gifs hoping someone will post "lol"?
                                                                              lol.....
                                                                              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                              • Jman
                                                                                Already an AI veteran
                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                • 22833

                                                                                #189
                                                                                The amount of foots in the mouth in this thread is AMAZING...

                                                                                Johnny ol pal, hit me up... Been way to long ;-) Let's do some biz mon frere...

                                                                                And I agree signup date on an adult forum doesn't mean shit. I also wouldn't brag on having shitload of posts ;-)
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                                                                                • baddog
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Apr 2001
                                                                                  • 107089

                                                                                  #190
                                                                                  Originally posted by Jean-Francois
                                                                                  I also wouldn't brag on having shitload of posts ;-)
                                                                                  Who was bragging about the number of posts they have?

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                                                                                  • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                    ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                    • Jun 2004
                                                                                    • 28609

                                                                                    #191
                                                                                    sorry i fell asleep, i won't let it happen again.
                                                                                    hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                                                    • Jman
                                                                                      Already an AI veteran
                                                                                      • Sep 2003
                                                                                      • 22833

                                                                                      #192
                                                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                      Who was bragging about the number of posts they have?
                                                                                      LMAO if the hat fits BD then it's all yours
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                                                                                      • J$tyle$
                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                        • Apr 2003
                                                                                        • 11500

                                                                                        #193
                                                                                        Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                        I'm sure this gem of a thread has done a smashing job bolstering interest in Maxcash's 1000 year old sites
                                                                                        At the very least, it's stirred some intelligent conversation along the way.

                                                                                        Originally posted by J$tyle$
                                                                                        We sell good now .. that's the point!

                                                                                        PORNSTAR - http://www.karasxxx.com/indexb.php?console=N
                                                                                        FETISH - http://www.obeymeslave.com/indexb.php?console=N
                                                                                        ANAL - http://www.deepasssex.com/indexb.php?console=N
                                                                                        LESBIAN - http://www.shelikesgirls.com/indexb.php?console=N
                                                                                        LEGAL TEEN - http://www.houseofteens.com/indexb.php?console=N

                                                                                        Nothing wrong with any of these sites - only thing wrong is that there's no way for YOU to know that unless YOU send traffic.
                                                                                        Like I said above there's nothing wrong or old about our sites. There have been many redesigns in the past year and our sites convert as well AND better than sites in the same categories.

                                                                                        As a matter of fact, Kara’s is converting better today than it was a year ago, six months ago, a month ago! Why? Because of our back end.

                                                                                        On top of that, some affiliates don’t send directly to our sites, but to custom landing pages tied to the join page. There are smart marketers we work with that we customize tours for as well. There are many intelligent ways to send/receive/convert traffic if you put your mind to it ... and we have - and will continue to
                                                                                        Last edited by J$tyle$; 04-12-2009, 11:41 PM.

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                                                                                        • Shoplifter
                                                                                          Richest man in Babylon
                                                                                          • Jan 2002
                                                                                          • 5862

                                                                                          #194
                                                                                          Sign of the times. Turn the lights out when you go.
                                                                                          I Like Blondes

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                                                                                          • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                            Now with more Jayne
                                                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                                                            • 40077

                                                                                            #195
                                                                                            Originally posted by Justin
                                                                                            This turned into:

                                                                                            old guy vs. old guy

                                                                                            THE BEST OF GFY FOLKS
                                                                                            Like a compilation album of board wars past.

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                                                                                            • JohnnyV_MaxCash
                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                              • Mar 2009
                                                                                              • 55

                                                                                              #196
                                                                                              Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                              I'm sure this gem of a thread has done a smashing job bolstering interest in Maxcash's 1000 year old sites
                                                                                              Here's the thing: Maxcash is making more money on sites that are converting better than they have a year ago, six months ago even 1 month ago. That truly was all this thread was about. Karas is doing better than that. That is happening because of our backend and our ability to push more customers through the door. That is a simple fact, that was what I was trying to include webmasters in, webmasters I know, and webmasters I don't.

                                                                                              Also, saying things like "Maxcash's 1000 year old sites"... I know what you mean when you say that, it's a slam like we're not relevant. I'll repeat myself from an earlier thread: any changes that need to be made can be, any updates are simple to achieve. But having been around as long as we have means we have experience in good times and in bad times, and instead of slamming Maxcash, which probably won't get you your intended results anyway, it might be smarter to take a look at why a program has survived so long, and is currently thriving while others are bemoaning their fate.

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                                                                                              • pornguy
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Mar 2003
                                                                                                • 62910

                                                                                                #197
                                                                                                Originally posted by Honez
                                                                                                Thanks but, I haven't shown them to you yet
                                                                                                Yet is a WONDERFUL word. It gives hope.
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                                                                                                • Phoenix
                                                                                                  BACON BACON BACON
                                                                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                                                                  • 35475

                                                                                                  #198
                                                                                                  eh...never go full retard...i like that

                                                                                                  maxcash still converts...be nice to see a total new wave of sites though.
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                                                                                                  • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                    Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                    • Dec 2002
                                                                                                    • 40077

                                                                                                    #199
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Phoenix
                                                                                                    eh...never go full retard...i like that

                                                                                                    maxcash still converts...be nice to see a total new wave of sites though.
                                                                                                    Good things come to those who wait and ask really really nicely ;)

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                                                                                                    • TheAmericanCannibal
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Dec 2006
                                                                                                      • 3087

                                                                                                      #200
                                                                                                      I 've been known to go "full retard" on occasion.

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