Originally Posted by crockett

You are talking about guys who were far right long before the Tea Party & Trump era of crazy. Those guys would seem tame by today's standards of crazy that has become the radical right. Tim Mcveigh as example was radicalized by the Militia anti govt far right which was the crazy far right before the Tea Party movement made it mainstream.. The far right has now drifted into the whole white supremacist anti govt stuff.

I agree Randy Weaver was likely set up, but he was associating with the white supremacist guys. It wasn't just random encounters but it's also not like he was a full fledged member either.