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  • xbizdon
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    • Mar 2004
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    XBIZ NEWS: RedTube Sued for $40 Million

    XBIZ NEWS: TeenRevenue Founder Slaps RedTube With $40M Suit

    Kevin Cammarata, TeenRevenue's founder, has filed a $40 million lawsuit against the operators of RedTube.

    http://www.xbiz.com/news/106980
    Don Parret
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    • Carmine Raguso
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      • Dec 2008
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      And here I am

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        • fris
          I have to go potty
          • Aug 2002
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          #3
          I guess thats one way to survive todays economy, sue a tube site
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            • sicone
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              • Jan 2004
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              #4
              Oh.. I thought that was a April fools joke...

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                • bufferover
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                  • Jan 2004
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                  #5
                  Pop corns from TeenRevenue

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                    • tabasco
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 2624
                      #6
                      Well played. Let's hope this sets a precedent and encourages more programs to sue.
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                                • jmcb420
                                  So Fucking Drunk
                                  • Oct 2006
                                  • 2155
                                  #9
                                  40 Million.

                                  DAMN.
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                                    • cherrylula
                                      lol
                                      • Jan 2002
                                      • 15969
                                      #10
                                      way to go teen revenue...

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                                        • SBJ
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                                          • Apr 2003
                                          • 11377
                                          #11
                                          very good news!

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                                            • Socks
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                                              #12

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                                                • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 18975
                                                  #13
                                                  This is why the courts exist, use them.
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                                                    • brassmonkey
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                                                      #14
                                                      damn lot of cash
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                                                        • SomeCreep
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                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 26118
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by xbizdon
                                                          XBIZ NEWS: TeenRevenue Founder Slaps RedTube With $40M Suit

                                                          Kevin Cammarata, TeenRevenue's founder, has filed a $40 million lawsuit against the operators of RedTube.

                                                          http://www.xbiz.com/news/106980
                                                          When I think of RedTube, I think of "copyright infringement." If Teenrevenue can't sue for that because of "technical problems," then damn, good luck.
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                                                                • notoldschool
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                                                                  This should be good.
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                                                                    • WiredGuy
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                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                      • 34515
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Very interesting how below-cost competition, loss leaders and unfair competition are the main points instead of copyright infringement. Will be good to watch this case unfold.
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                                                                        • teh ghey
                                                                          #19
                                                                          damn they must be loaded. i should be selling teens, fuck

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                                                                            • DaddyHalbucks
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                                                                              • Feb 2004
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                                                                              #20
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                                                                              It looks like sleeping with a dog is producing fleas for some of its sponsors..
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                                                                                • mynameisjim
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                                                                                  • Aug 2007
                                                                                  • 2985
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  The legal angle is very interesting, it actually seems like a much better case then copyright. I don't think the fact that the videos are stolen will go unnoticed by the judge even though it's not the issue of the case. But when it comes to issuing motions and such they usually think about stuff like that.
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                                                                                    • mikeyddddd
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                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 16557
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      XBIZ was unable to reach operators of RedTube by post time.




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                                                                                        • After Shock Media
                                                                                          It's coming look busy
                                                                                          • Mar 2001
                                                                                          • 35299
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                          Very interesting how below-cost competition, loss leaders and unfair competition are the main points instead of copyright infringement. Will be good to watch this case unfold.
                                                                                          WG
                                                                                          I had spoken with several people over the last two years and semi hinted around here in assorted threads about using the California unfair business practice laws instead of copyright in such a case. Now I am very curious of the outcome.

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                                                                                            • st0ned
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                                                                                                • Splum
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                                                                                                  • May 2003
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Haha "unfair business practices" yeah that'll go far. I think TeenRevenue is simply hoping that Redtube doesnt show up to the court case and they win by default lol, either that or they want to make Redtube spend money on a lawyer. This lawsuit will go nowhere mark my wise words.

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                                                                                                    • After Shock Media
                                                                                                      It's coming look busy
                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                      • 35299
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Splum
                                                                                                      Haha "unfair business practices" yeah that'll go far. I think TeenRevenue is simply hoping that Redtube doesnt show up to the court case and they win by default lol, either that or they want to make Redtube spend money on a lawyer. This lawsuit will go nowhere mark my wise words.
                                                                                                      A whole lot has been done with this law legal wise in the state for a very long time. Not about to say it is a win for teen revenue, I will however say this will take awhile to deal with and if it does not end in a settlement I see TR at least being compensated in some fashion.

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                                                                                                        • Luscious Media
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          It'll be interesting what happens when their "advertisers" run for cover. The price for ad spots on tube sites just took a nose dive...no?
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                                                                                                            • Zorgman
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                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
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                                                                                                              Interesting that their office is in Hong Kong.

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                                                                                                              Hong Kong
                                                                                                              Pursuant to the Control of Obscene and Indecent Articles Ordinance (Cap 390), it is an offence to publish an obscene article. Publication covers distribution, circulation, selling, hiring, giving, or lending the obscene article. Distribution by email would fall within the definition of distribution, as would the placing of an obscene article on a web site. It should also be noted that distribution does not require any element of financial gain to be present. The definition of article includes "anything consisting of or containing material to be read or looked at or both read and looked at, any sound recording, and any film, video-tape, disc or other record of a picture or pictures." The article will be considered obscene if, by reason by its obscenity, "it is not suitable to be published by any person." Obscenity includes "violence, depravity and repulsiveness". The penalty for this offence is up to three years imprisonment and a fine of up to HK$1,000,000.

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                                                                                                                • WiredGuy
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                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                                                  I had spoken with several people over the last two years and semi hinted around here in assorted threads about using the California unfair business practice laws instead of copyright in such a case. Now I am very curious of the outcome.
                                                                                                                  Likewise, I'd like to see how this Cali law will be used for this.
                                                                                                                  WG
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                                                                                                                    • OY
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                                                                                                                      • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Very interesting indeed. I will follow this very closely.

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                                                                                                                        • JD
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                                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          i bet it'll settle out of court

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                                                                                                                            • Spudstr
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              What constitute unlawful business act or practice?
                                                                                                                              A business act or practice is unlawful if it violates any law. Unlawful claims includes violation of numerous laws and regulations existing at the various levels of government including, state statutes, state regulations, local ordinances, prior case law and standard of professional conduct.
                                                                                                                              So I am betting they are leveraging the DMCA into this unfair business practice and claiming unfair competition because of it.

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                                                                                                                                • Si
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Strike one!

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                                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
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                                                                                                                                      Bravo.

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                                                                                                                                        • TidalWave
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                                                                                                                                          Don't forget that everyone that was named will have to spend money on lawyers now too
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                                                                                                                                            • gideongallery
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                                                                                                              What constitute unlawful business act or practice?


                                                                                                                                              So I am betting they are leveraging the DMCA into this unfair business practice and claiming unfair competition because of it.

                                                                                                                                              http://www.articlealley.com/article_605525_18.html
                                                                                                                                              ok explain this to me
                                                                                                                                              the DMCA gives them immunity from copyright infringement claims
                                                                                                                                              ergo they can be guilty of violating copyright law
                                                                                                                                              how exactly does DMCA get used to meet the definition you just listed.

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                                                                                                                                                • Iron Fist
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                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2006
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                                                                                                                                                  Holy motherfucker.... this is awesome on so many levels. Way to go TeenRevenue...
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                                                                                                                                                    • FreeHugeMovies
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2001
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Good for Kevin

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                                                                                                                                                        • Paolo
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                                                                                                                                                          Very interesting indeed. I will follow this very closely.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Doctor Dre
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                                                                                                                                                              Good job, I hope they can get something out of this.
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                                                                                                                                                                  Well done


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                                                                                                                                                                    • hypedough
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                                                                                                                                                                      Good. Finally. Fuck yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by TidalWave
                                                                                                                                                                          Don't forget that everyone that was named will have to spend money on lawyers now too
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                                                                                                                                                                            • kane
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              If teen revenue somehow pulls off a win with this case it will rock the internet as a whole. Since this hasn't been done before they will be a precedence setting case you and know the other tubes can expect similar and even sites like Youtube could find themselves with similar actions against them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • xxxjay
                                                                                                                                                                                  Tube groupie.
                                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 13482
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by xbizdon
                                                                                                                                                                                  XBIZ NEWS: TeenRevenue Founder Slaps RedTube With $40M Suit

                                                                                                                                                                                  Kevin Cammarata, TeenRevenue's founder, has filed a $40 million lawsuit against the operators of RedTube.

                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.xbiz.com/news/106980
                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm all for it.
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • CybermedAndy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Wow..dying to see how this turns out

                                                                                                                                                                                      too bad it will be tied up in court for the next 2 years

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • TeenCat
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Jan 2007
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          clap clap and thumbsup for http://teenrevenue.com , now who will be next? go get them!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Matt 26z
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 18481
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm on the fence here.

                                                                                                                                                                                              If this were a copyright infringement case, fair enough. But this lawsuit apparently is over one company's decision to give something away for free, and another company upset because it allegedly damaged the paid sales of their similar product offering.

                                                                                                                                                                                              This is like Match.com suing PlentyOfFish.com for being free and thus hurting their sales.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I looked at a few pages of videos in niches I am familiar with, and they all seem to be sponsor promos with a banner below or to the right, watermarked vids (uploaded by sponsors?) or very old content that could have been licensed on the cheap (the type of garbage you see in "500 hours of video for $99!" deals).

                                                                                                                                                                                              But I think this quote is very telling; "Cammarata has faced a substantial loss of customers and revenue, leading him to sell his business at an unfavorable price."

                                                                                                                                                                                              Sounds like a cash grab in a final gasp of air to me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Snake Doctor
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 13449
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  May I be the first to ruin this circle jerk by saying

                                                                                                                                                                                                  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Are you fucking kidding me?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  What's next, is the Wall Street Journal going to sue all the other newspapers for not charging for their online versions?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  If a judge awards even $1 in damages to TR for this suit, I'll shit in my hat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  From where I sit, it appears the whole purpose of this suit is to drag Redtube's host and advertisers into the suit, costing them time and money, so that it won't be worth it to do business with Redtube.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  They'll never win on the merits, but if they can get past the MTD, they may cause Redtube to lose some of their sponsors or hosting.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  This suit was filed for reasons other than winning the suit itself.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  sig too big

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • Barefootsies
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2005
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 42635
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                                                                      This suit was filed for reasons other than winning the suit itself.
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