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  • Socks
    Confirmed User
    • May 2002
    • 8475
    #1

    Affiliate payment fees are getting out of control.

    So I'm going through some of my reviews here, and I find av9898, a good site that I promote via CCBill now has a new webmaster URL etc, so I check it out. I see they have Nats now, but my ccbill codes are working so whatever. I just wanted some fresh pictures.

    Anyways I looked at their join form, and it says they'll only pay through Paypal, and there's a TEN dollar fee... I don't have a single sponsor that pays me by Paypal to begin with, but then ten dollars? What the fuck are they thinking?

    Then I checked a new site submission we received, and I see they're using Nats as well (http://www.adultrealcash.com).

    Check fee - $6
    Courier fee - $50
    Epassporte - $4
    Intl Wire - $35
    Paypal $4 or 5% (?...)
    US Wire $18
    WebMoney - $4 or 2.5%

    On a $50 min payout, $4 is EIGHT percent! I prefer to get checks too, so that would be 12%...

    I mean I couldn't list these sites if I wanted to.

    I also "found" around $700 by logging in to 2 sponsors yesterday who for whatever reason weren't paying on time. Sands from ETU Cash got right back to me, and the payment type wasn't setup properly, so props there.

    Really gotta do regular checkups on all your sponsors, it's worth money nowadays.

    Also I'm seriously gonna have to consider implementing my own fuckin terms and conditions and policies.. I'm sick of losing money to these greedy payment fees, paying money to get paid.. as if I don't pay enough in bank fees already or something

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    • Sly
      Let's do some business!
      • Sep 2004
      • 31380
      #2
      Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?
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        • Nicky
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2003
          • 30071
          #3
          Many of the sponsors I have that pay by epass takes $2 or 0.

          gfynicky @ gmail.com

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            • Ozarkz
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2009
              • 2377
              #4
              Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!

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                • Nicky
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 30071
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Sly
                  Aren't they going to get canned paying by PayPal?
                  Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales

                  gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                    • BradM
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 3397
                      #6
                      Jack off in my minestrone and I'd never know it!

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                        • MrDeiz
                          SignBucksDaily.com
                          • May 2008
                          • 9802
                          #7
                          ferrocash has $300 minimal payout
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                            • Sly
                              Let's do some business!
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 31380
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Nicky
                              Not if they pay you from a non adult related account to your non adult related account. Some sponsors will pay you how ever you want for some sales
                              Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.
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                                • jcsike
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2006
                                  • 689
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Socks
                                  Check fee - $6
                                  thats funny, webmasterchecks charges us $2 check to get our payments sent out through our nats system

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                                    • Socks
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2002
                                      • 8475
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                      Socks keeping track of everyone you promote must be a serious pita!
                                      Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.

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                                        • Ozarkz
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jan 2009
                                          • 2377
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Socks
                                          Can't really keep track of them all, just need to spend some time every now and then and go through things to make sure you're somewhat covered. I'll load up all the sites that start with M for example, make sure links work, set dead sites to 0, look for new affiliate program changes.. Then another task for another day is logging into the affiliate programs to make sure things are getting paid out and whatnot.
                                          Excel must be your best friend.

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                                            • HookUPcom
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2008
                                              • 1235
                                              #12
                                              Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

                                              1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
                                              2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
                                              3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
                                              4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

                                              And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

                                              And I need some gas for my car too...
                                              Last edited by HookUPcom; 04-06-2009, 01:01 PM.
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                                                • mineistaken
                                                  See signature :)
                                                  • Apr 2007
                                                  • 29656
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by HookUPcom
                                                  Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

                                                  1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
                                                  2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
                                                  3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
                                                  4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

                                                  And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

                                                  And I need some gas for my car too...
                                                  lol thats spot on

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                                                    • Manowar
                                                      jellyfish  
                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 71528
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by HookUPcom
                                                      Alright... Taking notes here... Yeah we're doing it all wrong... I'm going to add all of those and:

                                                      1. $3.50 cup of coffee during processing if processed before 10:30am.
                                                      2. $7.50 for sandwich if processed between the hours of 11:30-2:30.
                                                      3. $10.50 if processed at 4:20
                                                      4. $4.50 for beer if processed 5:00 on.

                                                      And we simply won't work any time in between. Those are for smoke breaks, and surfing GFY.

                                                      And I need some gas for my car too...

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                                                        • Barefootsies
                                                          Choice is an Illusion
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 42635
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                          ferrocash has $300 minimal payout
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                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34517
                                                              #16
                                                              $6 check fee is a little absurd.
                                                              WG
                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                • TheAmericanCannibal
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2006
                                                                  • 3087
                                                                  #17
                                                                  be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.

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                                                                    • Brujah
                                                                      Beer Money Baron
                                                                      • Jan 2001
                                                                      • 22157
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I get sponsors emailing me or calling me up and telling me I haven't cashed my check in 2 weeks, and wondering if everything is ok. I get sponsors telling me an old check wasn't cashed and asking if they need to resend it, etc.. I always make a point to send them more traffic.

                                                                      It's completely my fault if I find uncashed checks that have expired, but I still appreciate the sponsor noticing and contacting me. I'll try to push more sales to them.

                                                                      If I catch missing or late payments myself, I'd be inclined to drop or send less. There's always another sponsor waiting to take the sales.

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                                                                        • TheDoc
                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 13827
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                                                                          be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.
                                                                          What VOD Payments?
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                                                                            • The Ghost
                                                                              IslandDollars.com
                                                                              • Oct 2004
                                                                              • 12188
                                                                              #20
                                                                              No fees for checks or Epass payments from islanddollars.com
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                                                                                • seeandsee
                                                                                  Check SIG!
                                                                                  • Mar 2006
                                                                                  • 50945
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  some crappy fees whit some sponsors
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                                                                                    • commonsense
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                      • 1790
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheAmericanCannibal
                                                                                      be sure to examine your VOD payments very closely from a few companies.

                                                                                      That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.

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                                                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                                                          • 32467
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Why not have your own terms? The Best Porn does.

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                                                                                            • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                              Now with more Jayne
                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                              • 40077
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I agree and it is something I have been noticing for a while now. Somewhere it became okay to have to pay them for paying us.

                                                                                              I am happy to say that Max Cash doesn't charge our affiliates anything for either check or epass payments.

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                                                                                                • TeenCat
                                                                                                  Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                  • Jan 2007
                                                                                                  • 16131
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  oh wow ... zencash paying only by paypal ... thats something new to me, and i am sure when i signed up there it wasnt only paypal, as i am not signing up to programs that have paypal as i dont have any ... wow, zencash wtf? i need answers now ...

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                                                                                                    • TeenCat
                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a koala
                                                                                                      • Jan 2007
                                                                                                      • 16131
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      ... of course they had other payments, as i cannot signup somewhere where it needs paypal as i dont have any, so how can i input my none paypal? and why the hell nobody noticed me from zencash by email ... cool, zencash is another sponsor fucking with his affiliates ... much ill people last time around ...

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                                                                                                        • diesel
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 1097
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Way too greedy.

                                                                                                          We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.

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                                                                                                            • Iron Fist
                                                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                              • Dec 2006
                                                                                                              • 23400
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Ozarkz
                                                                                                              Excel must be your best friend.
                                                                                                              And if he knew VBA he could automate it all by using the Internet Explorer Object library in his VBA code and run though all in the background.

                                                                                                              Just sayin...
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                                                                                                                • chemicaleyes
                                                                                                                  UNSTOPPABLE
                                                                                                                  • Aug 2003
                                                                                                                  • 11569
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by diesel
                                                                                                                  Way too greedy.

                                                                                                                  We don't charge a penny, even for the wire transfers. All our affiliates payouts are free of charge.
                                                                                                                  No way as way, No limitation as limitation. AmeriNOC formally PhatServers

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                                                                                                                    • kowalsky
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                                                                      • 2494
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      To claim a fee for ePassporte transfer is wretched. Specially when the minimal payment is $100.
                                                                                                                      Jimmy Kowalsky
                                                                                                                      www.catchycash.com
                                                                                                                      [email protected]
                                                                                                                      ICQ - 7319094

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                                                                                                                        • Kron
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                                                                                          • 1668
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          fucked up, last cople month I tend to push ccbill sites over many other
                                                                                                                          I dont exchange money!

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                                                                                                                            • stever
                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                              • Jul 2005
                                                                                                                              • 1716
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              if you ask me...charging affiliates for anything is just bogus
                                                                                                                              they send the sales


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                                                                                                                                • MTCCash Tim
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2007
                                                                                                                                  • 181
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Never a payment fee when your an affiliate of ours! Every payment method free! See my sig and make money with our cams!
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                                                                                                                                    • Mutt
                                                                                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 34431
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by commonsense
                                                                                                                                      That's a totally separate issue. The amount of VOD companies that DO NOT PAY their affiliates or studios would boggle the minds of most.
                                                                                                                                      really? name the VOD companies that don't pay their affiliates and studios.
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                                                                                                                                        • woj
                                                                                                                                          <&(©¿©)&>
                                                                                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 47880
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them
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                                                                                                                                            • Sarah_Jayne
                                                                                                                                              Now with more Jayne
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                              • 40077
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                                                              Soon they'll start charging a membership fee for the right to promote them
                                                                                                                                              I get emails all the time from new webmasters asking me what the charge is to promote Max Cash.

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                                                                                                                                                • jono
                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                  • 617
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  I wouldn't imagine they'd be able to use Paypal.

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                                                                                                                                                    • Snake Doctor
                                                                                                                                                      I'm Lenny2 Bitch
                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                                                                                                      • 13449
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Checks should be free, or at most the $2 or so that they actually get charged by the company that cuts the checks.

                                                                                                                                                      If you make $XXXX in a pay period, payment of any type should be on them, including wires.
                                                                                                                                                      sig too big

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                                                                                                                                                        • tiger
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 6986
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Would be better if they would just raise the minimum payouts and reduce the fees.

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                                                                                                                                                            • CyberHustler
                                                                                                                                                              Masterbaiter
                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2006
                                                                                                                                                              • 28812
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                                                                                                                                                • UFGators2007
                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                                                                                                                                  • 1739
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                                                                                                                                                  Sure, but if paying by PayPal is the "standard" as opposed to the "exception"... I see someone screwing up somewhere and getting the whole operation canned.
                                                                                                                                                                  Agreed!
                                                                                                                                                                  "I use the Google to pull up maps."

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Boobgirl
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • Sep 2005
                                                                                                                                                                      • 447
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Some programs use a third party payment system such as Webmaster Checks. These companies have 'load' fees, and payout fees based on how the affiliate is paid. Here is an example:

                                                                                                                                                                      Load by Wire $0
                                                                                                                                                                      Load by ACH $0
                                                                                                                                                                      Load by epassporte $3
                                                                                                                                                                      Load by paypal 0.4%
                                                                                                                                                                      Load by Check $10

                                                                                                                                                                      Use of Canadian ACH - $30 PER batch
                                                                                                                                                                      Epassporte $30 load fee
                                                                                                                                                                      Webmoney $35 load fee


                                                                                                                                                                      Then to pay the affiliates:

                                                                                                                                                                      US Postal Check $1.5-5 per check
                                                                                                                                                                      Euro/Sterling Check $4-5 per check
                                                                                                                                                                      Paypal $2-3
                                                                                                                                                                      US ACH $2-3
                                                                                                                                                                      Canadian ACH $2-3
                                                                                                                                                                      Epassporte $3-4
                                                                                                                                                                      Revup Card $1-3
                                                                                                                                                                      US Wire $18
                                                                                                                                                                      International wire $35
                                                                                                                                                                      Western Union $16-40
                                                                                                                                                                      Webmoney $2.5 + .8%

                                                                                                                                                                      Stamps, USPS Priority service, or Courier are also extra.
                                                                                                                                                                      Dawn Allison
                                                                                                                                                                      www.dawnsplace.com
                                                                                                                                                                      www.dpdollars.com

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                                                                                                                                                                        • CIVMatt
                                                                                                                                                                          Amateur Pimpin
                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 13075
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by daizzzy
                                                                                                                                                                          ferrocash has $300 minimal payout
                                                                                                                                                                          Which is exactly why you don't promote a company like that
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